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Texas banning porn is great. Hopefully becomes a national thing.
03-18-2024, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
All of my data being “out there” is not the same thing as submitting an ID to view porn on a particular website because parents can’t manage their children’s internet access via the parental tools already at their disposal.Again, all of your data is already out there. People have agreed to trade privacy for convenience as I already mentioned earlier in this thread and can go into great detail on the matter if you’d like. There are exactly zero things they get from having you verify your age on a pron site that they don’t already have.
When did I say that?? Or is it easier to just pull things out of your ass? Obviously there are a lot of issues with online presence and we have done a terrible job of keeping up with implementing measures to minimize harm to children and teens. Do you disagree with policies that attempt to reduce the amount of gore children are exposed to? Do you oppose measures intended to combat predators? Or do you just go “omg those aren’t the only dangers online!!”?
When did I say that?? Or is it easier to just pull things out of your ass? Obviously there are a lot of issues with online presence and we have done a terrible job of keeping up with implementing measures to minimize harm to children and teens. Do you disagree with policies that attempt to reduce the amount of gore children are exposed to? Do you oppose measures intended to combat predators? Or do you just go “omg those aren’t the only dangers online!!”?
“We” have not done a terrible job of anything. Those parents have. If a parent needs restrictions on businesses(for something that is already illegal)because they can’t or won’t keep their own kids safe they need to reevaluate themselves.
03-18-2024, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By CuttyUnderleaf⏩
If 14 different corporations get access to your browsing history in practically realtime, then what exactly is obtained from requirement of your ID to access porn that isn’t already obtained?All of my data being “out there” is not the same thing as submitting an ID to view porn on a particular website because parents can’t manage their children’s internet access via the parental tools already at their disposal.
“We” have not done a terrible job of anything. Those parents have. If a parent needs restrictions on businesses(for something that is already illegal)because they can’t or won’t keep their own kids safe they need to reevaluate themselves.
Again, is this the same approach you have when a teenager is ID’d when attempting to buy beer?? I mean, the parents should track them at all times and make sure they aren’t at the store trying to buy beer, correct?
03-18-2024, 10:50 AM
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03-18-2024, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
No company should be surreptitiously collecting my data unless I agree.If 14 different corporations get access to your browsing history in practically realtime, then what exactly is obtained from requirement of your ID to access porn that isn’t already obtained?
Again, is this the same approach you have when a teenager is ID’d when attempting to buy beer??I mean, the parents should track them at all times and make sure they aren’t at the store trying to buy beer, correct?
Again, is this the same approach you have when a teenager is ID’d when attempting to buy beer??I mean, the parents should track them at all times and make sure they aren’t at the store trying to buy beer, correct?
I would not be IDed, Dogorman7 would not be IDed to buy beer. Not sure why you keep using that as an example...
(Sorry to bring you into this Dogorman7-I'm trying to make a point here)
Originally Posted By TheGeneralL33⏩
This, kind of wild that people still think using a VPN is such a mystery nowadaysVPN is difficult? It's built into browsers. LOL
03-18-2024, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
No they can’t only LE agencies canI got some bad news brah. Unless you are extremely diligent in minimizing your digital footprint, all of your browsing data(and tons of other data) is already owned by many different corporations. To make it worse, they will readily sell it to anyone willing to pay for it. And the govt. can almost certainly access it any time they want to.
You’re talking about LexusNexus and that’s all information recovered by things already connected to you like previous addresses or auto insurance information that’s sold to advertising corporations and insurance companies
LexusNexus may sometimes release information about you to a govt entity when they’re conducting a criminal investigation but there’s not some dude at the FBI or NSA sitting there monitoring who watches what on Pornhub or youtube
Websites will store site traffic IPs and sell it to 3rd parties so you get a lot of ads related to the websites you visit but that’s about it when it comes to the everyday stuff you consume
Even the data that the govt could get their hands on is can be difficult to get and they would have to comb through trillions of GBs of data to find what you did on a website unless they have a super specific time or date or the website is already under watch by the FBI
None of this matters though
Like underleaf says it’s about the principle and slippery slope
03-18-2024, 11:13 AM
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banning things you don't like seems very... liberal. hardly surprising that cuckservative jon supports this
porn and prostitution should both be legal everywhere, in addition to many other things
porn and prostitution should both be legal everywhere, in addition to many other things
03-18-2024, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By 8PointBuck⏩
Porn is not only legal it's also protected by the 1st amendment. Well "indecent" porn is protected.banning things you don't like seems very... liberal.
porn and prostitution should both be legal everywhere, in addition to many other things
porn and prostitution should both be legal everywhere, in addition to many other things
Obscenity is not
03-18-2024, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By 8PointBuck⏩
are they banning porn? I thought they were just putting restrictions on it so only people legally allowed to watch it would be able to.banning things you don't like seems very... liberal. hardly surprising that cuckservative jon supports this
porn and prostitution should both be legal everywhere, in addition to many other things
porn and prostitution should both be legal everywhere, in addition to many other things
So yeah I guess they're banning minors from watching it. Minors are not allowed to do a lot of things, though.
03-18-2024, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By dogorman7⏩
Uhhh, all the traffic IPs and cookies are all tracked and stored/sold. You think porn sites don’t have cookies and all kinds of sh!t on there…if anything they have a lot more on there. Sorry, but again your browsing history is owned by lots of people.No they can’t only LE agencies can
You’re talking about LexusNexus and that’s all information recovered by things already connected to you like previous addresses or auto insurance information that’s sold to advertising corporations and insurance companies
LexusNexus may sometimes release information about you to a govt entity when they’re conducting a criminal investigation but there’s not some dude at the FBI or NSA sitting there monitoring who watches what on Pornhub or youtube
Websites will store site traffic IPs and sell it to 3rd parties so you get a lot of ads related to the websites you visit but that’s about it when it comes to the everyday stuff you consume
Even the data that the govt could get their hands on is can be difficult to get and they would have to comb through trillions of GBs of data to find what you did on a website unless they have a super specific time or date or the website is already under watch by the FBI
None of this matters though
Like underleaf says it’s about the principle and slippery slope
You’re talking about LexusNexus and that’s all information recovered by things already connected to you like previous addresses or auto insurance information that’s sold to advertising corporations and insurance companies
LexusNexus may sometimes release information about you to a govt entity when they’re conducting a criminal investigation but there’s not some dude at the FBI or NSA sitting there monitoring who watches what on Pornhub or youtube
Websites will store site traffic IPs and sell it to 3rd parties so you get a lot of ads related to the websites you visit but that’s about it when it comes to the everyday stuff you consume
Even the data that the govt could get their hands on is can be difficult to get and they would have to comb through trillions of GBs of data to find what you did on a website unless they have a super specific time or date or the website is already under watch by the FBI
None of this matters though
Like underleaf says it’s about the principle and slippery slope
Sure there isn’t people manually monitoring what you’re going to, but that information is already gathered, stored, and owned by various entities. And they can rapidly identify who it is if they want to. All of that information exists somewhere because we have, for the most part, forfeited privacy. It’s basically an illusion at this point. Again, you can go a long way towards minimizing your digital footprint but it requires a decent amount of effort and has to be an ongoing process. It will also make things a LOT less convenient for you.
03-18-2024, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By CuttyUnderleaf⏩
You probably have agreed to lots of your data being collected. Again, minimizing your digital footprint requires quite a bit of effort.No company should be surreptitiously collecting my data unless I agree.
I would not be IDed, Dogorman7 would not be IDed to buy beer. Not sure why you keep using that as an example...
(Sorry to bring you into this Dogorman7-I'm trying to make a point here)
This, kind of wild that people still think using a VPN is such a mystery nowadays
I would not be IDed, Dogorman7 would not be IDed to buy beer. Not sure why you keep using that as an example...
(Sorry to bring you into this Dogorman7-I'm trying to make a point here)
This, kind of wild that people still think using a VPN is such a mystery nowadays
Lold at thinking apps don’t have access to your browsing data if you use a vpn. And if you’re speaking solely about the ability to bypass security controls, again there are ways to identify use of vpns(and that technology is already being used in other ways) which could make that workaround less likely.
03-18-2024, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
You’re missing the point but I’ll dumb it down for youUhhh, all the traffic IPs and cookies are all tracked and stored/sold. You think porn sites don’t have cookies and all kinds of sh!t on there…if anything they have a lot more on there. Sorry, but again your browsing history is owned by lots of people.
Sure there isn’t people manually monitoring what you’re going to, but that information is already gathered, stored, and owned by various entities. And they can rapidly identify who it is if they want to. Just, you can get away with any crime as long as you have the resources and you can solve any crime as long as you have the resources. All of that information exists somewhere because have, for the most part, forfeited privacy. It’s basically an illusion at this point. Again, you can go a long way towards minimizing your digital footprint but it requires a decent amount of effort and has to be an ongoing process. It will also make things a LOT less convenient for you.
Sure there isn’t people manually monitoring what you’re going to, but that information is already gathered, stored, and owned by various entities. And they can rapidly identify who it is if they want to. Just, you can get away with any crime as long as you have the resources and you can solve any crime as long as you have the resources. All of that information exists somewhere because have, for the most part, forfeited privacy. It’s basically an illusion at this point. Again, you can go a long way towards minimizing your digital footprint but it requires a decent amount of effort and has to be an ongoing process. It will also make things a LOT less convenient for you.
Your data is sold but not to the state or most forms of govt
The only govt entities it’s sold to are LE agencies in the event of a criminal investigation so you have to give them a reason to track your online activity
Corporations have the right to be sold your online data because it’s part of the licensing and user agreements you click agree to
On most websites or social media it’s one of the first things they have you agree to
the federal , state or local government has no business having your pornhub usage that will surely be abused in some way when you link your SSN or Drivers license to “Hot Latina Milf Squirts” videos
03-18-2024, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By dogorman7⏩
Using a drivers license number or social security number to identify yourself on a website does not automatically give the govt. the right to any information on that website or any information owned by that website.You’re missing the point but I’ll dumb it down for you
Your data is sold but not to the state or most forms of govt
The only govt entities it’s sold to are LE agencies in the event of a criminal investigation so you have to give them a reason to track your online activity
Corporations have the right to be sold your online data because it’s part of the licensing and user agreements you click agree to
On most websites or social media it’s one of the first things they have you agree to
the federal , state or local government has no business having your pornhub usage that will surely be abused in some way when you link your SSN or Drivers license to “Hot Latina Milf Squirts” videos
Your data is sold but not to the state or most forms of govt
The only govt entities it’s sold to are LE agencies in the event of a criminal investigation so you have to give them a reason to track your online activity
Corporations have the right to be sold your online data because it’s part of the licensing and user agreements you click agree to
On most websites or social media it’s one of the first things they have you agree to
the federal , state or local government has no business having your pornhub usage that will surely be abused in some way when you link your SSN or Drivers license to “Hot Latina Milf Squirts” videos
03-18-2024, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
LolUsing a drivers license number or social security number to identify yourself on a website does not automatically give the govt. the right to any information on that website or any information owned by that website.
All the information linked to your SSN and DL is available to the government without any 3rd party intervention
That’s the whole point of both of those forms of ID
03-18-2024, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By dogorman7⏩
Source?Lol
All the information linked to your SSN and DL is available to the government without any 3rd party intervention
That’s the whole point of both of those forms of ID
All the information linked to your SSN and DL is available to the government without any 3rd party intervention
That’s the whole point of both of those forms of ID
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yep. and anytime something is outlawed it just gives business to the underground too keep moving it. great plan.
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Originally Posted By John
ThisTexas isn't banning porn. Pornhub is throwing a fit because they want to keep pushing it on minors. They say so right in their statement if you read between the lines.
03-18-2024, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
lol, I have quite a few Kay Parker joints.Same. You can't beat the classics
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As a Texan, I couldn't be more proud. Need to lock down all porn and have legit age verification. This **** is poison for our children.
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Originally Posted By pengh⏩
who needs pron when we have pengh mugshot threadsYes. This goes against why I mostly stand for, BUT i would vote on the gov banning porn
03-18-2024, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
This does not ban porn at all (does requiring a ID to buy alcohol ban it?) but it should have banned it. Porn is evil.It's dangerous to have government decide what sites you can and cannot use. This is a dumb move.
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Originally Posted By SwagMorris⏩
Action movies are evilThis does not ban porn at all (does requiring a ID to buy alcohol ban it?) but it should have banned it. Porn is evil.
Nudity in voices are evil
Violent video games are evil
Horror movies are evil
Heavy Metal and Rap music is evil
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Originally Posted By FelixTheCat1919⏩
this guy consistently has the chittiest takes then claims to be right leaning.I'm actually a conservative politically for the most part, and think it's stupid when conservatives obsess over this chit. All you're gonna do is turn red states blue faster with this stuff, then they'll just undo everything the conservatives did anyway. You refuse to address that point.
go bitch about guns somewhere else.
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
Fukk yeah all illicit materials should require age verification srs. This is the the 90s where simply having access to a computer probably meant you were an adult. Every tween in the country has unrestricted internet via their handheld privacy intrusion devices and chit parents are going to do fuk all about it. Our country's culture will continue to rot unless measures like this are employed. IT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT A FREE SPEECH ISSUE. dumbass argument.Are they gonna ban singers who sing about sex as well?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
The government issues that info not sure what sort of source you need for that.I’ll take that as a no.
-The DMV Departments of Motor Vehicle which issues DLs and titles and registrations. Some states break that agency into two, Department of Public Safety (drivers licenses and permits) and the Mississippi State Tax Commission (vehicle title and registrations).
-The SSA Social Security Administration issues your SS# and handles SSI, disability and retirement.
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Lmao land of the free
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Originally Posted By CuttyUnderleaf⏩
Yeah, I know that the govt. issues those IDs. His claim was that at the current time the govt. has to jump through hoops to get access to your browsing history, but if you enter your drivers license on the site before accessing it then the govt. can see what you’re doing.The government issues that info not sure what sort of source you need for that.
-The DMV Departments of Motor Vehicle which issues DLs and titles and registrations. Some states break that agency into two, Department of Public Safety (drivers licenses and permits) and the Mississippi State Tax Commission (vehicle title and registrations).
-The SSA Social Security Administration issues your SS# and handles SSI, disability and retirement.
-The DMV Departments of Motor Vehicle which issues DLs and titles and registrations. Some states break that agency into two, Department of Public Safety (drivers licenses and permits) and the Mississippi State Tax Commission (vehicle title and registrations).
-The SSA Social Security Administration issues your SS# and handles SSI, disability and retirement.
To which I replied: “ Using a drivers license number or social security number to identify yourself on a website does not automatically give the govt. the right to any information on that website or any information owned by that website.”
He seems to think that simply putting that information on a website allows the govt. to access it. That isn’t true. So his claim that the govt. gets access to all information linked to your SSN and DL #s without 3rd party intervention is a lie. The same hoops he says they have to jump through now to access the information will still be in place if a person enters their DL number.
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