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What makes men so much more creative than women?
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Alteast quote the person who you're arguing with.LOL at trotting out data from the 1930s for reinforcing your belief that men are morecleverer(I am man hear me roar)
“throwing away all of the older studies from the prior generation (prior to 1982), he compared men and women on the Raven's Progressive Matrices test, a test of abstract, logical reasoning. Setting the male score at 100, Flynn found that women scored the lowest in Australia (99.5), but in the other 4 nations Raven's scores varied from 100.5 to 101.5. After presenting this data, he noted:
"So they certainly equaled men, and perhaps were slightly above. This has been distorted in the news of my saying that women are incredibly more intelligent than men. As you can see, this somewhat goes beyond what was claimed."
“throwing away all of the older studies from the prior generation (prior to 1982), he compared men and women on the Raven's Progressive Matrices test, a test of abstract, logical reasoning. Setting the male score at 100, Flynn found that women scored the lowest in Australia (99.5), but in the other 4 nations Raven's scores varied from 100.5 to 101.5. After presenting this data, he noted:
"So they certainly equaled men, and perhaps were slightly above. This has been distorted in the news of my saying that women are incredibly more intelligent than men. As you can see, this somewhat goes beyond what was claimed."
07-09-2019, 12:56 PM
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07-09-2019, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Men having denser population on both sides of the iq spectrum isn’t a logical fallacy it’s a repeatedly proven fact you dumb fat kunt1. That wasn't a personal attack. A personal attack is calling someone a cuck. Agreed. It's the sign of a lost argument.
2. Do you even know what a strawman or a paper tiger is? It's a logical fallacy, not a personal attack.
You're dumbfounding me bro. (srs) It's difficult to debate someone who doesn't add anything to the argument.
2. Do you even know what a strawman or a paper tiger is? It's a logical fallacy, not a personal attack.
You're dumbfounding me bro. (srs) It's difficult to debate someone who doesn't add anything to the argument.
Watch me ad hominem you while plainly explaining how you’re wrong and cry more ******* fist yourself. Enjoy being an example of spectral science and ty for proving the vast mental disparity from male to male
Back to reddit ****boy
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07-09-2019, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
Men aren't capable of the same physical grace that women are.Which is super interesting to me, because in other art forms, (classical ballet in particular) we give all sorts of scholarships and additional training to boys and men and they still manage to underperform and underwhelm.
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07-09-2019, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By darkninja67⏩
Spend some time with a woman and talk to her and you will realize the answer to the question.
Most are vacuous, self absorbed, and superficial.
Most are vacuous, self absorbed, and superficial.
Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Pretty much answers OP's question. Guys have the potential to be really obsessed and about things, which is why there are way more nerds than there are women. Not to say female nerds don't exist, because they do, but not nearly to the extent of men. Women are more obsessed about looking 'pretty' whereas the most a man will do about his looks is maybe workout, and even then most men don't work out.Exactly like saying “Most men are monosyllabic, self obsessed and geeky”
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I don't think its that men are inherently more creative than women but there are more top tier male creatives because men have more outliers both on the low end and high end on the IQ distribution charts. Its why when you get to the very top of any field its mostly men
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07-09-2019, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
The sensuality that exists as female nature is not present in men. And if they are they are usually homo. Same goes for any type of dance. This is the connection to 5 sense reality and the material world. The world of matter (mater- as in maternal).Which is super interesting to me, because in other art forms, (classical ballet in particular) we give all sorts of scholarships and additional training to boys and men and they still manage to underperform and underwhelm. Not all, but most. They struggle with the most rudimentary variations and still need an extra few hours a week of men's class to function at the same level as women. Women manage just fine (because if they didn't, their contract would end), with the added bonus of working with an extension of their body in pointe shoes. Like imagine being a male soloist and still being reminded to point your fuking toes in company class. It's unreal.
Men are more connected to their internal world, the God self. The world you can't see. These inventions are merely channeled by men from a realm of higher frequency. Cars, planes, machines, electronics, etc. These cool inventions came from that realm.
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07-09-2019, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Kurial⏩
Actually single fathers make better parents.I don't think they're any less creative, but the ultimate creative endeavor is creating/raising a child.
think about it.
think about it.
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07-09-2019, 03:24 PM
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Top 100 chess players are all men(maybe the odd female in there). You could say that that most women aren't interested in chess, and that's why. If you're not seeking to recognise differences, or don't care, or just want reality to be the way you want it to be... then you'll probably say that's why. Anyone being honest with themselves know that's not why.
I've literally spent a full minute trying to think of something that women are measurably better at than men. I don't know child rearing comes to mind. Are women measurably better at it, though?
In terms of sports, or games though, or the extremes of anything I can't think of anything. Maybe very long distance running. A woman named Courtney Dauwalter ran some ultra marathon of like 240 miles, and beat the next person by like 10 hours or something, pretty crazy. Could be an outlier, but my intuition tells me that women should be better at Ultra-Ultra Marathon feats like that.
Women excel, on average relative to men in social dynamics, though. You know, women actually do a lot of that general stuff like that better than men, as far as averages... but it's at the extremes, say the top 100 of anything, it's a very high percentage of men.
Wish I could be a woman for a day so I could play with my tits all day long, I mean, so I could experience that perception on things.
I've literally spent a full minute trying to think of something that women are measurably better at than men. I don't know child rearing comes to mind. Are women measurably better at it, though?
In terms of sports, or games though, or the extremes of anything I can't think of anything. Maybe very long distance running. A woman named Courtney Dauwalter ran some ultra marathon of like 240 miles, and beat the next person by like 10 hours or something, pretty crazy. Could be an outlier, but my intuition tells me that women should be better at Ultra-Ultra Marathon feats like that.
Women excel, on average relative to men in social dynamics, though. You know, women actually do a lot of that general stuff like that better than men, as far as averages... but it's at the extremes, say the top 100 of anything, it's a very high percentage of men.
Wish I could be a woman for a day so I could play with my tits all day long, I mean, so I could experience that perception on things.
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07-09-2019, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By DemiBrah⏩
Did you even read our exchange because I literally never addressed that. So I have no idea where you've gotten the idea that I called it a logical fallacy.Men having denser population on both sides of the iq spectrum isn’t a logical fallacy it’s a repeatedly proven fact
I was addressing the fact that no one was trying to argue that point with him, so it is a paper tiger or a strawman, i.e., he's building a case for something no one is even debating him on.
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07-09-2019, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential⏩
70% percent of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers.I've literally spent a full minute trying to think of something that women are measurably better at than men. I don't know child rearing comes to mind. Are women measurably better at it, though?
72% of juvenile murderers and 60% of rapists come from single-mother homes.
70% of teenage births, dropouts, suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents, and child murderers involve children raised by single mothers.
Women act and reason using their emotions. Raise a young boy to act on their emotions without constraint like this and this is what you get.
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07-09-2019, 03:59 PM
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Women are less creative because you donate money to Twitch girls.
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07-09-2019, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
lmao where the fuk do you get any of that? Jesus get a load of this *******Women who tried to be creative were burned at the stake as witches. But please tell us more about how men are the real victims in history
07-10-2019, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
Well you can't expect a woman to not defend herselflmao where the fuk do you get any of that? Jesus get a load of this *******
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
Did you know men were also burned at the stake for witch allegations?Women who tried to be creative were burned at the stake as witches. But please tell us more about how men are the real victims in history
And lol, you're an idiot. Men were oppressed in the most brutal ways, women did not have to work in the most dangerous, back breaking jobs nor were they cannon fodder. They stayed at home did work there and raised the children, SUCH OPPRESSSIOOON!
Women were a protected class.
07-10-2019, 02:40 AM
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Women are just as creative but their priorities are different they’re designed to give birth and raise families.
Men were hunter gatherers and they need to attract females to plant their seed so they have evolutionary pressure to be creative
Another reason is as a female it’s easier to find a provider than to be creative with work as the male being the “bread winner” in the family is a tradition
Men were hunter gatherers and they need to attract females to plant their seed so they have evolutionary pressure to be creative
Another reason is as a female it’s easier to find a provider than to be creative with work as the male being the “bread winner” in the family is a tradition
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Originally Posted By dizzin9⏩
Men's brains are about 10% larger, and it is debatable as to whether that makes any significant difference in cognitive function.Besides the physical disadvantages, women’s brains are smaller. With brains a third the size of us. It's science.
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07-10-2019, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
I'm not talking about ballet (which based on what Rabbit is saying, has movements that favour female physiology), but it's honestly considered somewhat lame to be a man and not able to at least hold a rhythm in Africa and the African diaspora, I've heard the same is true in certain Hispanic countries.The sensuality that exists as female nature is not present in men. And if they are they are usually homo. Same goes for any type of dance. This is the connection to 5 sense reality and the material world. The world of matter (mater- as in maternal).
Basically it seems to be only men outside of Afro and Hispanic cultures that seem to think that dancing well is for women.
I tell you as a kid/teen I was pretty crap at dancing, got shamed for it by black brahs... Eventually I got the hang of it. (It's actually a turn off for me if a woman can't dance).
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07-10-2019, 03:23 AM
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look at nature. Only the most beautiful and resource males live and get to reproduce. The same is for humans.
Only the most creative, and resourceful males get to reproduce.
The women? you just need a nice pair of tits.
Only the most creative, and resourceful males get to reproduce.
The women? you just need a nice pair of tits.
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diversity is our strengthX chromosome is boring. Just two intersecting lines. Y chromosome is interesting, splits it up and gives extra pathways from the base.
07-10-2019, 03:24 AM
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From Roy Baumeister's talk entitled "is there anything good about men":
We know from the classical music scene that women can play instruments beautifully, superbly, proficiently — essentially just as well as men. They can and many do. Yet in jazz, where the performer has to be creative while playing, there is a stunning imbalance: hardly any women improvise. Why? The ability is there but perhaps the motivation is less. They don’t feel driven to do it.
I suppose the stock explanation for any such difference is that women were not encouraged, or were not appreciated, or were discouraged from being creative. But I don’t think this stock explanation fits the facts very well. In the 19th century in America, middle-class girls and women played piano far more than men. Yet all that piano playing failed to result in any creative output. There were no great women composers, no new directions in style of music or how to play, or anything like that. All those female pianists entertained their families and their dinner guests but did not seem motivated to create anything new.
Meanwhile, at about the same time, black men in America created blues and then jazz, both of which changed the way the world experiences music. By any measure, those black men, mostly just emerging from slavery, were far more disadvantaged than the middle-class white women. Even getting their hands on a musical instrument must have been considerably harder. And remember, I’m saying that the creative abilities are probably about equal. But somehow the men were driven to create something new, more than the women.
I suppose the stock explanation for any such difference is that women were not encouraged, or were not appreciated, or were discouraged from being creative. But I don’t think this stock explanation fits the facts very well. In the 19th century in America, middle-class girls and women played piano far more than men. Yet all that piano playing failed to result in any creative output. There were no great women composers, no new directions in style of music or how to play, or anything like that. All those female pianists entertained their families and their dinner guests but did not seem motivated to create anything new.
Meanwhile, at about the same time, black men in America created blues and then jazz, both of which changed the way the world experiences music. By any measure, those black men, mostly just emerging from slavery, were far more disadvantaged than the middle-class white women. Even getting their hands on a musical instrument must have been considerably harder. And remember, I’m saying that the creative abilities are probably about equal. But somehow the men were driven to create something new, more than the women.
07-10-2019, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
and just as often you find out those stories are revisionist bs that some male feminist made up in hopes of getting laid.Thousands of years of exclusion from higher education/guilds/etc. None of these places allowed women to be a part of them. Even recently you find out more and more women were responsible for some pretty amazing discoveries and inventions but then their boss or someone would take the credit and exclude them from the publishing credits.
while i see you point in regards to the middle ages, that doesnt apply to today. Woman are much more successful in creativity today but still men dominate all creative fields (music writing, architecture, artwork, film, scientific discovery, inventing, engineering, ect)
i think it comes down to the fact that men have the mentality of going outside the norm and taking risks, whereas women seem to prefer to play things safe.
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07-10-2019, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
this. It is the outliers that make the difference, and only the extreme ends of the distribution that matter .I don't think its that men are inherently more creative than women but there are more top tier male creatives because men have more outliers both on the low end and high end on the IQ distribution charts. Its why when you get to the very top of any field its mostly men
It's possible that African-Americans are only slightly, on average, more athletic than the other races. But due to the distribution, all the sports are dominated by those African-Americans on the extreme ends of the distributions.
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