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Thread: Marine vet going to Jail for holding crackhead in a chokehold

post 1682548783 05-11-2023, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Do the mentally ill citizens deserve a death sentence when they are having a mental health crisis or episode?
Yes or No?
Depends on what they are doing when they are having a mental health crisis. I think most murderers are probably deranged in one way or another. They deserve the death sentence because they can't function in our society. If the mental issue is causing the person to cause physical harm to multiple people on multiple occasions and they can't be a part of society, then kill them.

Or don't kill them, and then everyone can say later "omg, this guy was a violent offender over and over again and was out on the streets! he should have been dealt with before he murdered x number of people!" Well this is a dude being dealt with before his violence became worse than it already was.
post 1682548873 05-12-2023, 12:06 AM
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Fuk the marine. Hopefully he gets his chit pushed in while incarcerated
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post 1682548953 05-12-2023, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Alphametric⏩
It was reported that the crackhead was throwing things, not sure if on the floor or at people, but he was acting hostile and threatening towards passengers. Physically restraining someone like that on a train is self defense.
In foreign countries it's common for bystanders to just watch something happen without getting involved. Why? Because of situations like this. Even if you get involved and help with the best intentions you could easily be found liable or held accountable for what happens. People who have tried to stop violence publicly have found themselves being charged for "harming" the offender. Those offering medical or first aid have been found civilly liable and sued by victims families for rendering aid which either caused more damage or resulted in death anyways. So what exactly is the best course of action? Let the person continue to be an idiot and do nothing at the cost of someone innocent being harmed or yourself OR try to stop them or do the right thing and end up being carted off to court or jail/prison. No good deed goes unpunished.
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post 1682549253 05-12-2023, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted By isawthesign⏩
clown ass world... literally standing up for ANYONE EXCEPT law abiding american citizens.

brb dying for illegal immigrants
brb dying for gang bangers
brb dying for drug dealers
brb dying for people practicing sharia law
Does anyone nose what happened?
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post 1682549693 05-12-2023, 12:40 AM
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So let me get this straight. The mentally deranged guy, who was a former child molester impersonator got sent to choke hold city? And people are whining about it?
post 1682549793 05-12-2023, 12:45 AM
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I just want to know why you can be arrested for doing the world a favor and making it a better place.

Is just surreal to me.
post 1682551533 05-12-2023, 02:23 AM
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Bohooo, crack head pencil neck couldn't stand being choked a bit. I don't see why you would choose to subdue him like that though. Just the thought of having a crack head bum that close to my body makes me want to throw up.
post 1682552453 05-12-2023, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
and what were all those people doing when they were shot?

Just some random names from that list.

Antonio Martin - pulled a gun first on cops, who fired in response
Tamir Rice - held a realistic looking fake pistol and pointed it directly at cops
Felix Kumi - okay, this guy was a bystander hit by a stray cop bullet....which was being fired at a black robber
Darius Stewart - Can't get full details, but the officers report is that Stewart resisted arrest and managed to grab his handcuffs from belt and attack him
Samuel DuBose - tried to drive off during a traffic stop, officer claims that he was being dragged by the car so went for headshot
Dontre Hamilton - became violent whilst being patted down by cop, manaqed to grab cop's baton and started assaulting him with it

Bear in mind these are just 6 random names from that list, and only ONE man was genuinely not at fault. I can imagine going through the whole list that the vast majority were doing something stupid that contributed to them being killed.
Cook the man some eggs!
post 1682552593 05-12-2023, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted By isawthesign⏩
clown ass world... literally standing up for ANYONE EXCEPT law abiding american citizens.

brb dying for illegal immigrants
brb dying for gang bangers
brb dying for drug dealers
brb dying for people practicing sharia law
Just don't. I lived in Seattle and crossed paths with dozens of batchit homeless every single day.

Never interacted. Never gave them ocular threat assessments. Certainly never tried to play NPC hero and choke one out to show oiff. Just how ya doin' keep it movin' at all times. The only way to win is not to play. This is basic street smarts.

The idea that you automatically get a pass to do whatever you want to someone because they are a homeless pos only exists on the misc. It's not real life.
post 1682552623 05-12-2023, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted By maori-rap⏩
and what were all those people doing when they were shot?

Just some random names from that list.

Antonio Martin - pulled a gun first on cops, who fired in response
Tamir Rice - held a realistic looking fake pistol and pointed it directly at cops
Felix Kumi - okay, this guy was a bystander hit by a stray cop bullet....which was being fired at a black robber
Darius Stewart - Can't get full details, but the officers report is that Stewart resisted arrest and managed to grab his handcuffs from belt and attack him
Samuel DuBose - tried to drive off during a traffic stop, officer claims that he was being dragged by the car so went for headshot
Dontre Hamilton - became violent whilst being patted down by cop, manaqed to grab cop's baton and started assaulting him with it

Bear in mind these are just 6 random names from that list, and only ONE man was genuinely not at fault. I can imagine going through the whole list that the vast majority were doing something stupid that contributed to them being killed.
Who cares what they did. Time to get some free converse.
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post 1682553863 05-12-2023, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
The idea that you automatically get a pass to do whatever you want to someone because they are a homeless pos only exists on the misc. It's not real life.
That's funny because the homeless POS got to do whatever the fuk he wanted for his entire life. That's fine by you.
post 1682553993 05-12-2023, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
That's funny because the homeless POS got to do whatever the fuk he wanted for his entire life. That's fine by you.
This is kind of a hallmark of low skill. Someone living an imperfect life does not suddenly make another chode king
post 1682554013 05-12-2023, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
This is kind of a hallmark of low skill. Someone living an imperfect life does not suddenly make another chode king
42 arrests is so far beyond an "imperfect life" lmfao.
post 1682554133 05-12-2023, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
That's funny because the homeless POS got to do whatever the fuk he wanted for his entire life. That's fine by you.
Hey bud I don't make the rules. Run for office if you want to leave the homeless for dead in the wilderness.
post 1682554413 05-12-2023, 05:15 AM
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Murder is against the law
post 1682554673 05-12-2023, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
cool. So what is your new title for recognizing this? License to roam around shooting whoever you judge in an instant without any other authority approving first?
Based on the history of the crackhead, I doubt this was a misjudgement by the marine.
post 1682554863 05-12-2023, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Based on the history of the crackhead, I doubt this was a misjudgement by the marine.
So you can do a background check in your head?
post 1682554933 05-12-2023, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
So you can do a background check in your head?
He did an ocular pat down and threat assessment.
post 1682555043 05-12-2023, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Doober4⏩
No, they are never in the right.

They are trying to destroy society so they can attempt to rebuild it the way they want it. A main way to do that is protecting criminals and demonizing anyone that dares defend themselves against them.

Do not let these fuks take away your right to defend yourself and what’s right.
Marine boy was not defending himself….no one was attacking him or was a threat to his life.

Instead of grabbing the dude from behind and squeezing him till he was dead, the marine should have just spoken up and told the dude to shut the fukk up and sit down. If Michael Jackson attacked him for doing that, then he was defending himself.

You can’t just walk up on someone from behind and strangle them for talkin sh*t.
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most people are out after 10-15 seconds. did this guy really choke him for minutes???
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Originally Posted By SteadySmokin⏩
most people are out after 10-15 seconds. did this guy really choke him for minutes???
Once you know what it feels like to watch the life slowly leave someone's eyes, it's tough to stop.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Do the mentally ill citizens deserve a death sentence when they are having a mental health crisis or episode?
Yes or No?
No

The victim was being aggressive but that does not call for a violent solution.

Also restraining someone does not mean killing someone.
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Deserved. Could've easily loosened his grip, but he didn't.
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Originally Posted By naaboo⏩
Deserved. Could've easily loosened his grip, but he didn't.
Crackhead could have easily stopped being a criminal, in fact, he had 42 chances to stop, but he didn't. Marine deserves an award and maybe a full time position choking out crackheads.
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I want more of the bums to get choked to death
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Originally Posted By MasterMorality⏩
This is an instance when I think the "Social Justice Warriors" are correct. That was a criminal act. You can't sneak up on a man and choke him to death because you think he is a nuisance and you want play hero. People are fed up with the crime but that does not justify a guy being choked to death because he was behaving disruptive, by a stranger looking to impress other strangers.
Yeah, it takes nothing for these slap happy white dudes to throw you in a choke hold. I was put in a full nelson and knocked out in public just for sassing back once. No punches thrown by me. I was seated, not violent at all. Just rubbed the guy the wrong way, and boom, he throws me into a choke hold I was out like a light. Guy was like 6ft7in. I'm 5ft 5in. Not exactly a fair shake. Your average empowered white dude thinks he can kill if someone looks at him sideways.
Another thing they like to do is punch one in the head. I hate when they do that - especially when they crack me in the side of the head.

But choking is their favorite. They think it's humane. Another time I was seated in class and talking back again, trying to make my point, and they put a garrote around my neck and knocked me out. It was the kind used to restrain animals. They knocked me out that time too the sick ****s.

Once they get it into their brains that they can get away with it because they think no one will fight for you, they feel that they ARE the law. It doesn't matter that the "animals" like me that they think they can control have also paid their fair share of taxes.
The white man is scary and never to be trusted.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Crackhead could have easily stopped being a criminal, in fact, he had 42 chances to stop, but he didn't. Marine deserves an award and maybe a full time position choking out crackheads.
This.

The marine is not a danger to society.

The crackhead was.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Do the mentally ill citizens deserve a death sentence when they are having a mental health crisis or episode?
Yes or No?
Boiling this down to such a limited window is peak low-iq
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