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03-11-2014, 07:17 PM
#1981
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WFNZ isn't going to because they're buddies with 89. he regularly appeared on there until Taylor went to Sirius
Yeah I know. The Drive has gone downhill HARD since he left. Marc is kind of a dumbass.

But the Raleigh guys have no sources in Charlotte. They don't know **** about the Panthers.
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03-11-2014, 07:18 PM
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Not supporting it, but if we do kinda punt this free agency, we will go into next offseason with a pretty damn significant amount of cap space(dat rollover). Much needed space for several extensions and a good group of FA's.

Just sayin'
Some of that **** money comes off next year but its really two years from now when we actually have freedom (I think).
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03-12-2014, 02:58 AM
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Starting to hear that cutting smith may have a lot to do with team chemistry. Supposedly a lot of players are getting fed up with his " You aren't as good as me so you are useless" attitude.
………….lafell is pretty dam close to useless.
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03-12-2014, 03:00 AM
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Saints signing Byrd is baaaaad news for us. And there cap was supposed to be ****ed. Man.

This as been a bad offseason for us. Guys leaves, Pro-bowls LT retires, meanwhile divisional opponents doing work. (although not sure if the bucs count)
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03-12-2014, 07:42 AM
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WFNZ guy is tweeting that Panthers and reps for Nicks are talking
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03-12-2014, 08:19 AM
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WFNZ guy is tweeting that Panthers and reps for Nicks are talking
A 1 or maybe 2 year deal would be nice.
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03-12-2014, 08:29 AM
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interested in opinions on the Steelers signing Mike Mitchell
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03-12-2014, 08:59 AM
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interested in opinions on the Steelers signing Mike Mitchell
-good run stopper
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-plays hard
-will bring attitude to dat steeler defense

I'll miss him
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03-12-2014, 09:02 AM
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interested in opinions on the Steelers signing Mike Mitchell
Good player. He's a hard hitter who is very aggressive. Has great speed and brings an intensity to the field. One of my fav players from last years D. Mitchell can be over aggressive at times which results in missed tackles and getting exposed deep in coverage. Our front 7 made him look better than what he actually is. I could see him struggling in coverage without a consistent pass rush. All in all he's a really good but not great safety who you guys prob overpaid for. Panthers signed him to a 1 yr 1 mill dollar contract last yr compared to the steelers 5 yr 25 mill. Quite a difference, buyer beware
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03-12-2014, 09:15 AM
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interested in opinions on the Steelers signing Mike Mitchell
Way, way overpaid him. Doesn't fit with Polamalu either. Good player though.
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03-12-2014, 09:19 AM
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Saints signing Byrd is baaaaad news for us. And there cap was supposed to be ****ed. Man.

This as been a bad offseason for us. Guys leaves, Pro-bowls LT retires, meanwhile divisional opponents doing work. (although not sure if the bucs count)
The Byrd signing definitely helps the Saints this year but that's gonna make it really tough to resign Graham. They staggered the contract to keep the cap hit this year manageable but that's just going to make it tough next off-season and beyond.

I think the Bucs signing Verner to a better contract is the real steal.
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03-12-2014, 10:40 AM
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interested in opinions on the Steelers signing Mike Mitchell
LOL, good luck with that.

Originally Posted By chlaxman
Way, way overpaid him. Doesn't fit with Polamalu either. Good player though.
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Barnwell called it one of the 5 worst free agents moves on "Day One":

5. Pittsburgh gives S Mike Mitchell a five-year, $25 million deal: Theres so much weird in that sentence. The Steelers almost never enter into free agency, and when they do, they dont often screw up. I still cant make heads or tails of this signing. A year ago, Mitchell entered the market after four years in Oakland and barely found a contract, getting a one-year deal for $1 million from the Panthers to play special teams and serve as a backup safety. He eventually found his way into the starting lineup and impressed as a run-thumping safety, but it was also behind a dominant front seven, which made his life a lot easier.

Now, after 13 starts, the Steelers suddenly think hes worth $5 million per year? That would be questionable on its own, but its even weirder considering Pittsburghs defense. Mitchells strength is using his speed to attack the line of scrimmage and fill against the run. His fellow starting safety in Pittsburgh is Troy Polamalu, a rover who has lost several steps in coverage and whose best remaining strength is using his instincts to attack the line of scrimmage and fill against the run. Id wonder if Mitchell was a replacement for Polamalu, but the cap-strapped Steelers just gave their long-serving safety a two-year contract extension. This could work Dick LeBeau happens to know a lot about safeties but it certainly seems like a risky venture on its face.
Don't get me wrong, I like what Mitchell brought to the table for us, but he was basically almost out of football. He should send $10M to the Kracken and $10M to LUUUUUKKKKEEEE, and keep $5M for himself.
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03-12-2014, 11:38 AM
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So… I hear Steve Smith is done with Carolina?
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03-12-2014, 11:59 AM
#1994
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So… I hear Steve Smith is done with Carolina?
You heard right. Also I heard the ravens are interested in him? Dis true?
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03-12-2014, 12:22 PM
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So… I hear Steve Smith is done with Carolina?
So freaking wrong.

Here’s the inconvenient truth the Panthers are now facing with the imminent departure of Steve Smith: Carolina has no receiver on its roster that caught a pass last season.

Ted Ginn Jr., Brandon LaFell and Domenik Hixon all became unrestricted free agents Tuesday, therefore they are not on the Panthers roster.

Carolina has Tavarres King, Marvin McNutt, Kealoha Pilares, Toney Clemons, Brenton Bersin and R.J. Webb as their receivers.
Full story here:

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/...pth-chart.html

Obviously we are going to sign someone, but with 89 gone and Ginn meeting with other teams….

I just don't get it.

At least ask the guy to restructure.
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03-12-2014, 01:14 PM
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Yeah not really sure where the stragety or plan is exactly for us.


But godddddamnit, still ALWAYS goes back to how fukkked up our cap is because of that backfield
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03-12-2014, 01:58 PM
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Word is Gettleman sees Smith as a locker room distraction and removing him is going to allow Cam and, to a lesser extent Luke, become the team leaders.

If we sign Nicks and draft a receiver (Benjamin please) I think we'll be good. McNutt will be better than Lafell I think and King could be better than Ginn
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03-12-2014, 02:28 PM
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Word is Gettleman sees Smith as a locker room distraction and removing him is going to allow Cam and, to a lesser extent Luke, become the team leaders.

If we sign Nicks and draft a receiver (Benjamin please) I think we'll be good. McNutt will be better than Lafell I think and King could be better than Ginn
I've heard that as well.

I also think Gettleman is trying to plan for 2-3 years from now and didn't see many ways to improve the roster this year. So instead of tying up future money hes trying to keep the core guys and bring in a bunch of one year deals.
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03-12-2014, 03:53 PM
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I've heard that as well.

I also think Gettleman is trying to plan for 2-3 years from now and didn't see many ways to improve the roster this year. So instead of tying up future money hes trying to keep the core guys and bring in a bunch of one year deals.
it's a completely different way of thinking that the fanbase will just have to get used. planning farther down the road than we have in the past. Gettleman said last year it would take 2 years, so hopefully next year we're in the clear
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03-12-2014, 04:32 PM
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it's a completely different way of thinking that the fanbase will just have to get used. planning farther down the road than we have in the past. Gettleman said last year it would take 2 years, so hopefully next year we're in the clear
Yeah considering we're used to overpaying to keep mediocre guys that the fans like…im happy with it, although I hate to see Smitty go.
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03-12-2014, 05:00 PM
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one of the most frustrating off seasons thus far in a while. If we can somehow sign Nicks, resign Ginn, Sign Oher to play RT, sign Terell Brown or resign Munnerlyn ill be somewhat content.
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03-12-2014, 05:10 PM
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Good player. He's a hard hitter who is very aggressive. Has great speed and brings an intensity to the field. One of my fav players from last years D. Mitchell can be over aggressive at times which results in missed tackles and getting exposed deep in coverage. Our front 7 made him look better than what he actually is. I could see him struggling in coverage without a consistent pass rush. All in all he's a really good but not great safety who you guys prob overpaid for. Panthers signed him to a 1 yr 1 mill dollar contract last yr compared to the steelers 5 yr 25 mill. Quite a difference, buyer beware
he also had a breakout year last year.

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Way, way overpaid him. Doesn't fit with Polamalu either. Good player though.
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LOL, good luck with that.

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Don't get me wrong, I like what Mitchell brought to the table for us, but he was basically almost out of football. He should send $10M to the Kracken and $10M to LUUUUUKKKKEEEE, and keep $5M for himself.
Those questioning the fit, what type of player was Ryan Clark? Mitchell is a bigger, faster version of him. Troy only has 1-2 years left anyways.
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03-12-2014, 05:18 PM
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Those questioning the fit, what type of player was Ryan Clark? Mitchell is a bigger, faster version of him. Troy only has 1-2 years left anyways.
Mitchell isnt young though. In 1-2 years you'll probably want to replace him. Both Troy and him are good run stuffers who don't play the pass well (anymore in Troy's case).
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03-12-2014, 05:22 PM
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one of the most frustrating off seasons thus far in a while. If we can somehow sign Nicks, resign Ginn, Sign Oher to play RT, sign Terell Brown or resign Munnerlyn ill be somewhat content.
I kept telling y'all that they had very little cap space to really use. Its frustrating but had to happen.

The one nice thing is a lot of teams threw out big contracts for not big players. We could always make a play for Jimmy Graham next year (JK **** him he wants Calvin Johnson money).
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03-12-2014, 05:46 PM
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resign Ginn.
i've been saying this over at the huddle, but Tavarres King is probably Ginn's replacement and McNutt is Lafell's. they're both the same type of WR as the one's they are replacing, but younger and cheaper and, in McNutt's case especially, i think better.

King might not be the return man Ginn is, but i think he'll be a better WR. Sign Nicks and draft someone like Kelvin Benjamin or Jordan Matthews and I think we've got something going. Add in Brandon Williams as another receiving TE threat and watch Cam flourish
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03-12-2014, 05:50 PM
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i've been saying this over at the huddle, but Tavarres King is probably Ginn's replacement and McNutt is Lafell's. they're both the same type of WR as the one's they are replacing, but younger and cheaper and, in McNutt's case especially, i think better.

King might not be the return man Ginn is, but i think he'll be a better WR. Sign Nicks and draft someone like Kelvin Benjamin or Jordan Matthews and I think we've got something going. Add in Brandon Williams as another receiving TE threat and watch Cam flourish
I really wanted McCluster for the slot, too. Maybe im crazy though.
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03-12-2014, 06:04 PM
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Mitchell isnt young though. In 1-2 years you'll probably want to replace him. Both Troy and him are good run stuffers who don't play the pass well (anymore in Troy's case).
Hes 26? Ima miss him. Who is gonna bring the attitude that so helped this defense? Charles godfrey?
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Hes 26? Ima miss him. Who is gonna bring the attitude that so helped this defense? Charles godfrey?
Damn I thought he was 30…

Who's going to be bring attitude? Besides Kuechly, Hardy, Davis, Star, Short, and CJ you mean?
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03-13-2014, 09:15 AM
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I am thrilled the Bucs signed McCown. Brb 34 year old journeyman QB. Panthers and Saints D will feast on him.
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03-13-2014, 01:29 PM
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were in for 5-6 win season
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