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post 1561190551 09-13-2018, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
You are literally trying so hard to find a valid argument lol. Stop being so extreme with your "what if's".


the average Black man in America is totally different than the average White man in America.

A White person living in a trailer park born into gen. poverty holds more power than a black man living in a trailer park born into gen. poverty too. Just statin' factss
So a white trailer park trash can call Obama n word with a hard r and you wouldn't consider him racist because he has "less power".

Please tell me how you measure power and how that every trailer white guy holds more power than every trailer park black guy.

And why power is required to determine why someone is racist or not.

Tell me why a black person who thinks white people are genetically inferior and should be killed in concentration camps would not be considered racist.

Your idea fails to stand up to scrutiny by yourself. It's called cognitive dissonance.
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
Lmao. Dude just say what you wanna say with some balls and stop sugarcoating stuff.


typical miscers: " I don't want to see a black man in my Superhero movie meant for White people not because I'm racist and think White Actors are superior, but because I hate Hollywood diversifying cinema and giving opportunities to Black men to star also known as Diversity which is being shoved down my throat. How dare Hollywood replace a White man with a Black man. Fukin sickening. It's shoved down my throat"



meanwhile there is hundreds of films based on Blacks, Asians, Latinos that are played by White actors


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film


In conclusion, Stop being so sensitive there is a Black actor playing Superman /thread
You're writing essays here. Youre being extremely sensitive that other people want a white superman , the version that he has always been known to be.

Why is whitewashing not OK, but black washing OK?

If apple turned iPhone into a flipphone? Look at the backlash the notch on the phone is getting.
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
Lmao. Dude just say what you wanna say with some balls and stop sugarcoating stuff.


typical miscers: " I don't want to see a black man in my Superhero movie meant for White people not because I'm racist and think White Actors are superior, but because I hate Hollywood diversifying cinema and giving opportunities to Black men to star also known as Diversity which is being shoved down my throat. How dare Hollywood replace a White man with a Black man. Fukin sickening. It's shoved down my throat"



meanwhile there is hundreds of films based on Blacks, Asians, Latinos that are played by White actors


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film


In conclusion, Stop being so sensitive there is a Black actor playing Superman /thread
you're contradicting yourself in 1 post. amazing
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
Lmao. Dude just say what you wanna say with some balls and stop sugarcoating stuff.


typical miscers: " I don't want to see a black man in my Superhero movie meant for White people not because I'm racist and think White Actors are superior, but because I hate Hollywood diversifying cinema and giving opportunities to Black men to star also known as Diversity which is being shoved down my throat. How dare Hollywood replace a White man with a Black man. Fukin sickening. It's shoved down my throat"



meanwhile there is hundreds of films based on Blacks, Asians, Latinos that are played by White actors


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film


In conclusion, Stop being so sensitive there is a Black actor playing Superman /thread
Another moron rears their head. Nobody has a problem with black people in film, period (except that one dude Richard Spencer). The problem is replacing known white characters with black/asian/minority actors "just for the sake of diversity" and to appease a certain political segment of our society (most of which don't even consume the media they complain about).

For example, SJW's attempting to get Warhorse Studios to insert black people into their game Kingdom Come: Deliverance, which was set in 1397 Bohemia, a time & place in history wherein there were precisely zero black people. But that didn't stop SJW's from accusing Warhorse of racism for not being "diverse enough". Because diversity for its own sake seems to be a boon to these people, even if it makes zero historical sense.. Even if it means replacing a historical white figure with a black person, or replacing a fictional white character with another race.

Try this: Explain the BENEFIT of replacing Superman with a black actor instead of a lore-friendly white one (again, assuming we aren't referring to the lore-friendly/canon "STEEL" character).

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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
Lmao. Dude just say what you wanna say with some balls and stop sugarcoating stuff.


typical miscers: " I don't want to see a black man in my Superhero movie meant for White people not because I'm racist and think White Actors are superior, but because I hate Hollywood diversifying cinema and giving opportunities to Black men to star also known as Diversity which is being shoved down my throat. How dare Hollywood replace a White man with a Black man. Fukin sickening. It's shoved down my throat"



meanwhile there is hundreds of films based on Blacks, Asians, Latinos that are played by White actors


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film


In conclusion, Stop being so sensitive there is a Black actor playing Superman /thread
Originally Posted By Dirtymanjames
White washing is phucking dumb too. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Exactly what he said ^^ I would say the exact thing about a white person playing black panther, Blade, Spawn or any of those characters. It's stupid.

And fuk off with you insinuating I am a racist person. Some of my closest friends are black and Hispanic.

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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
Exactly what he said ^^ I would say the exact thing about a white person playing black panther, Blade, Spawn or any of those characters. It's stupid.

And fuk off with you insinuating I am a racist person. Some of my closest friends are black and Hispanic.

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Like I said, and my posted Wikipedia link, White people have been playing Black, Asian, Latino characters for YEARS in movies and nobody gives a chit. Like for fuk sakes, that is why they have the term "blackface" because White actors tried to play black people.



but as soon as a Black dude who plays a role known for being a White man, all hell breaks lose.


"I think its stupid for white actors to play black people too" well guess what? It's been going on for years since the 1940's. And please, just because you have 1 Black friend doesn't mean you cannot be a racist. You don't have to say the N word daily to be considered racist ya know lol.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser
Another moron rears their head. Nobody has a problem with black people in film, period (except that one dude Richard Spencer). The problem is replacing known white characters with black/asian/minority actors "just for the sake of diversity" and to appease a certain political segment of our society (most of which don't even consume the media they complain about).

For example, SJW's attempting to get Warhorse Studios to insert black people into their game Kingdom Come: Deliverance, which was set in 1397 Bohemia, a time & place in history wherein there were precisely zero black people. But that didn't stop SJW's from accusing Warhorse of racism for not being "diverse enough". Because diversity for its own sake seems to be a boon to these people, even if it makes zero historical sense.. Even if it means replacing a historical white figure with a black person, or replacing a fictional white character with another race.

Try this: Explain the BENEFIT of replacing Superman with a black actor instead of a lore-friendly white one (again, assuming we aren't referring to the lore-friendly/canon "STEEL" character).

Dude you have your head so far up your ass that you think the only reason a Black man in Hollywood can get hired is because of the Liberal media influencing it. Does it not occur to you that there is probably hundreds of talented Black actors who got to where they are because of hard work and not because of " the libtard media enforcing sjw politics"?




How aboutYOUtry this: If 50 men applied to be Superman, and the winner just happened to be black, do you think it's because he's the best actor who applied or because of some whatever identity diverse politics?


I can't believe you just asked me What is the Benefit of having a Black Superman lol.......what type of racist ass question is that?? If there is a Black Superman it's because he was the best available actor chosen lol. Fuk outta here boy
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^^^This.

Whites have been playing HISTORIC roles for decades. Most people shrugged it off. A black man plays a FICTIONAL character and all hell breaks loose.

Plus look at recent 2016 UCLA study, white males are still very over represented in male lead roles. Whether that's fair or not, there's no black man takeover or anything close to that.
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
Like I said, and my posted Wikipedia link, White people have been playing Black, Asian, Latino characters for YEARS in movies and nobody gives a chit. Like for fuk sakes, that is why they have the term "blackface" because White actors tried to play black people.



but as soon as a Black dude who plays a role known for being a White man, all hell breaks lose.


"I think its stupid for white actors to play black people too" well guess what? It's been going on for years since the 1940's. And please, just because you have 1 Black friend doesn't mean you cannot be a racist. You don't have to say the N word daily to be considered racist ya know lol.
So, the times have changed. And now people figured that race-swapping is stupid.

black guys playing white guys = stupid
white guys playing black guys = stupid

So what's the argument here?

You should be punished cause your great-grandaddy slapped someone else's great-grandaddy?
^^^This.

Whites have been playing HISTORIC roles for decades. Most people shrugged it off. A black man plays a FICTIONAL character and all hell breaks loose.

Plus look at recent 2016 UCLA study, white males are still very over represented in male lead roles. Whether that's fair or not, there's no black man takeover or anything close to that.
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Dude you have your head so far up your ass that you thinkthe only reasona Black man in Hollywood can get hired is because of the Liberal media influencing it. Does it not occur to you that there is probably hundreds of talented Black actors who got to where they are because of hard work and not because of " the libtard media enforcing sjw politics"?
Strawman. No one is saying Black men can only get jobs due to an agenda.

But yes, there is an agenda of injecting "diversity" into established IP. If you don't see that, you are willfully blind.
This is the equivalent of forcing the iPhone to be a flipphone, instead of making a separate flip phone. They are trying to piggyback brand equity of successful IP, with established white characters.

No one is complaining about a black man staring in Blade.
No one complained about will smith staring in Hancock, Men in Black.
No one is complaining about Denzel staring in the Equalizer franchise.
No one complained that they turned a lesser known character (Captain Nick Fury) into a Black man played by Samuel L Jackson.

People complain when a well established and extremely popular character, with an iconic appearance looks different.
People complained that Daniel Craig had blonde hair when he was cast for Bond.

If you don't think Skin Color should affect casting or the character, then you should not be complaining about the "whitewashing" that Hollywood has done in the past.

You sir, have double standards.
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
Dude, if Black people can be enslaved to Whites for 100+ years, I'm pretty sure being called a racist as a White guy isn't the end of the world. Fukin grow up and stop being so sensitive lmao.


You can't be racist if you aren't in a position of power. It's true whether you like it or not. dealwithit.jpg
Your last sentence, is the most retarded thing, I have read on misc this year.
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Originally Posted By Tiglet
Your last sentence, is the most retarded thing, I have read on misc this year.
Of course he would say that - he's a known anti-white fanatic. I love how they think they can keep at it and keep at it and there will never be repercussions.
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever
Superman should definitely not be black
The cast of Witcher should be kept faithful to the masterpiece that CD Projekt Red created...

Diversity for diversity sake should not be allowed to continue. It's not racist for characters to be representative of their source creation. If you want something different, make a new character and a new story
I agree with you about diversity and about witcher. But it's Clark Kent who can't be black. Superman can be and has been black in the comics, Clark Kent is the first and original superman but he is not the only one. A black superman only works if its not Clark Kent, Micheal B Jordan would have to play John Henry Irons, or Val-Zod.
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Im sorry but i dont see a black superman. It would be so strange.
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Bad move by DC. Henry is the best guy to play Superman they can possibly find. It's like having patrick stewart act as charles xavier and then deciding to replace him with another *******.
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
Dude you have your head so far up your ass that you think the only reason a Black man in Hollywood can get hired is because of the Liberal media influencing it.
Strawman. Nowhere in any way shape or form did I indicate I thought that. I quite literally stated I was perfectly fine with black (and other minority actors) being in films of any stripe, and that I simply didn't want the SJW mob getting them inserted into roles playing known WHITE characters.

So yeah, no. Strawman.
Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
Does it not occur to you that there is probably hundreds of talented Black actors who got to where they are because of hard work and not because of " the libtard media enforcing sjw politics"?
Still swinging away at that strawman you've erected.

Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
How aboutYOUtry this: If 50 men applied to be Superman, and the winner just happened to be black, do you think it's because he's the best actor who applied or because of some whatever identity diverse politics?
Superman is white. Steel is black. If they want to make a movie about Steel, then a black actor fits the bill. If they want to make a movie about Clark Kent, aka Superman, then the actor should be white. Superman is white.
Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
I can't believe you just asked me What is the Benefit of having a Black Superman lol.......what type of racist ass question is that??
It's not racist at all. The left is trying to insert "diversity" (which just means "not white") into places wherein it serves zero logical purpose, other than to reduce the amount of white people (hint: because large portions of the left hate white people). So yes, explain to me what the benefit is of replacing a white actor who gets cast to play a historically/lore-friendly "white character" with a black person, an asian, or someone who is in fact, not white. The result is fukced up lore/stories having to be re-written so the fact that the character is now black can make sense. So, you can cast them as the race they were originally created as, or you can replace them with a non-cannon, non-historically accurate race and then re-write half the story, while trying to justify to your fan base why you meddled with a character they know and love. But yeah, tell me what the benefit is?
Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
If there is a Black Superman it's because he was the best available actor chosen lol. Fuk outta here boy
Funny, I thought you liberals considered meritocracy "white supremacy".

But no, "Black Superman" isn't an existing character. If you want a black superhero, invent one. Or make a movie about Steel, an existing black superhero and cast whatever black actor you want to play him.

Would it make sense to cast Henry Cavil to play Steel? Would it make sense to cast Jason Statham to play Blade? No, it'd be fukcing stupid, and I'd be just as irritated if they pulled that chit as I am that they're trying to replace Ciri from The Witcher with a black chick. It's stupid. It's entirely being done to pander to SJW sensibilities.

I like btw how you had ZERO arguments and instead entirely relied on trying to peg me as a racist, while arguing against the fallacious strawman you invented to replace the argument I actually made. Good job!


Originally Posted By inb4everything
^^^This.

Whites have been playing HISTORIC roles for decades. Most people shrugged it off. A black man plays a FICTIONAL character and all hell breaks loose.

Plus look at recent 2016 UCLA study, white males are still very over represented in male lead roles. Whether that's fair or not, there's no black man takeover or anything close to that.
There is no such thing as over-representation.

This isn't as difficult as some of you are making it.

-Is the character historically/canonically a specific race?
YES - Cast that race
NO - Cast whatever race you want

-Is the character historically/canonically a specific sex?
YES - Cast that sex
NO - Cast whatever sex/982rd Gender you feel like

There's absolutely zero reason to bastardize an existing character by replacing it with "muh diversity", nor is there any reason to replace a known minority character with a white one. New characters are open season. Existing characters should remain canon.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
It's would be disappointing in one aspect because Cavill was a great Superman/Clark Kent, but a good thing as well because their whole DC universe needs to be rebooted, and you really need to sweep everything from the old universe clean to do that.
It's too late to reboot again, with the exception of Batman. They will have to wait until current marvel phase is done to ditch all the bad characters and erase all the bad decisions they took.
Originally Posted By Manletbolic
This is most likely the case, i feel if cavill is gonna go with this fck fest WB is producing he might as well demand top dollar.

WB hasnt given a str8 answer yet.
Superman is playing mind games, getting gen pop on his side.
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What an outrage. Superman should be a woman, not a man. It is ****ING 2018!!!
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
You can't be racist if you aren't in a position of power. It's true whether you like it or not. dealwithit.jpg
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What an outrage. Superman should bea woman, not a man.It is ****ING 2018!!!
see bold

are you implying that there are only 2 genders?!?!?! fukking bigot!!!
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Man, Henry was such a wasted potential by DC. The perfect actor for Superman and they couldn't produce a truly epic movie trilogy with him. *******s.

MJB kinda sucks as an actor to be honest. Ugly as fuark too. Seriously, this is supposed to be SUPERman?

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SUPERMAN movies are always complete and utter crap. worst super hero movies of all time, worst than hancock
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Doesn't matter. He's using the fictional SJW definition of racism anyway. Anyone who uses that "power + privilege" pseudo-definition is too retarded for a rational discussion.
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Originally Posted By rocketfish
SUPERMAN movies are always complete and utter crap. worst super hero movies of all time, worst than hancock
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And Aquaman flopping will be the kick in the dikk whiles DC’s on the ground.

Damn.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser
Strawman. Nowhere in any way shape or form did I indicate I thought that. I quite literally stated I was perfectly fine with black (and other minority actors) being in films of any stripe, and that I simply didn't want the SJW mob getting them inserted into roles playing known WHITE characters.

So yeah, no. Strawman.



Still swinging away at that strawman you've erected.





Superman is white. Steel is black. If they want to make a movie about Steel, then a black actor fits the bill. If they want to make a movie about Clark Kent, aka Superman, then the actor should be white. Superman is white.



It's not racist at all. The left is trying to insert "diversity" (which just means "not white") into places wherein it serves zero logical purpose, other than to reduce the amount of white people (hint: because large portions of the left hate white people). So yes, explain to me what the benefit is of replacing a white actor who gets cast to play a historically/lore-friendly "white character" with a black person, an asian, or someone who is in fact, not white. The result is fukced up lore/stories having to be re-written so the fact that the character is now black can make sense. So, you can cast them as the race they were originally created as, or you can replace them with a non-cannon, non-historically accurate race and then re-write half the story, while trying to justify to your fan base why you meddled with a character they know and love. But yeah, tell me what the benefit is?




Funny, I thought you liberals considered meritocracy "white supremacy".

But no, "Black Superman" isn't an existing character. If you want a black superhero, invent one. Or make a movie about Steel, an existing black superhero and cast whatever black actor you want to play him.

Would it make sense to cast Henry Cavil to play Steel? Would it make sense to cast Jason Statham to play Blade? No, it'd be fukcing stupid, and I'd be just as irritated if they pulled that chit as I am that they're trying to replace Ciri from The Witcher with a black chick. It's stupid. It's entirely being done to pander to SJW sensibilities.

I like btw how you had ZERO arguments and instead entirely relied on trying to peg me as a racist, while arguing against the fallacious strawman you invented to replace the argument I actually made. Good job!






There is no such thing as over-representation.

This isn't as difficult as some of you are making it.

-Is the character historically/canonically a specific race?
YES - Cast that race
NO - Cast whatever race you want

-Is the character historically/canonically a specific sex?
YES - Cast that sex
NO - Cast whatever sex/982rd Gender you feel like

There's absolutely zero reason to bastardize an existing character by replacing it with "muh diversity", nor is there any reason to replace a known minority character with a white one. New characters are open season. Existing characters should remain canon.
Of course there is over representation as well as under representation. One group of people are over represented in roles...or even acting in general. Happens worldwide and is not exclusive to the US. If it's historical, it makes more sense to be upset. But for a comic...you telling me the storyline can't work if the man's some shades darker? Was it in the original storyline that he was of European descent?

If it was a minority fictional character and they changed it, I honestly wouldn't care. I'm pretty open and not hung up about race like the misc is.
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Originally Posted By goingcia
Man, Henry was such a wasted potential by DC. The perfect actor for Superman and they couldn't produce a truly epic movie trilogy with him. *******s.

MJB kinda sucks as an actor to be honest. Ugly as fuark too. Seriously, this is supposed to be SUPERman?

Lol pretty much. They landed a one in a million actor to play Superman and they are dumb as fuk cuz.
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Originally Posted By rocketfish
SUPERMAN movies are always complete and utter crap. worst super hero movies of all time, worst than hancock
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