Thread: Is diversity failing the USA?
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Yea diversity is failing and anybody who says different is either naive or a liar. There are too many conflicting and competing interests, incompatible cultures, and there is a lack of cohesion.
Equality is a falsehood, there will never be a time when all races accept being exactly the same because all races are not exactly the same on a general group scale.
Even in multicultural societies there is allows a dominant culture, the core culture that decides the law, language, institutions, architecture, literature, etc of said nation. In the case of America that dominate culture was European cultures, as these are the people that founded the nation and were not only the first immigrants but also the original frontiersman, settlers, and colonials...the founders of the nation we know as the USA. Most of the founding stock was Anglo so we had a culture based predominantly off of Anglo culture and then with time other similar European cultures added to it. This mixture wasn’t toxic because the cultures and people were similar enough and most assimilated into the predominantly Anglo culture of the U.S.
Now we have a situation where non-white races are competing with the white European and European descended population over who should be the dominant culture which is what happens as we as humans are tribal. This is because most immigration is currently non-white. In my opinion the demographic and culture war between whites and the new immigrants has emboldened blacks many of which harbor a deep resentment towards whites who they see as the dominant culture.
This is a culture war that has been going on since about 1965 and is boiling over now that the demographics have changed enough and it will likely only get worse.
Equality is a falsehood, there will never be a time when all races accept being exactly the same because all races are not exactly the same on a general group scale.
Even in multicultural societies there is allows a dominant culture, the core culture that decides the law, language, institutions, architecture, literature, etc of said nation. In the case of America that dominate culture was European cultures, as these are the people that founded the nation and were not only the first immigrants but also the original frontiersman, settlers, and colonials...the founders of the nation we know as the USA. Most of the founding stock was Anglo so we had a culture based predominantly off of Anglo culture and then with time other similar European cultures added to it. This mixture wasn’t toxic because the cultures and people were similar enough and most assimilated into the predominantly Anglo culture of the U.S.
Now we have a situation where non-white races are competing with the white European and European descended population over who should be the dominant culture which is what happens as we as humans are tribal. This is because most immigration is currently non-white. In my opinion the demographic and culture war between whites and the new immigrants has emboldened blacks many of which harbor a deep resentment towards whites who they see as the dominant culture.
This is a culture war that has been going on since about 1965 and is boiling over now that the demographics have changed enough and it will likely only get worse.
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Diversity, inclusivity, intersectionality, etc. are all weapon words of the left.
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Originally Posted By LegDayLol⏩
This is what white separatists who read books sound like.srs discussion
While Europe is becoming culturallyandethnically diverse which causes cultural issues of its own, the USA was supposed to be ethnically diverse, withoneprevailing culture - American culture.
But the whole BLM protests and this election seems to just show that a huge amount of minorities will not stand for the existing culture of America. They want to create it in their own image, which apparently includes some form of wealth transfer through socialist policies.
Seems like the price of diversity is having your culture dissolved and politics takes a hard-left.
Discuss.
While Europe is becoming culturallyandethnically diverse which causes cultural issues of its own, the USA was supposed to be ethnically diverse, withoneprevailing culture - American culture.
But the whole BLM protests and this election seems to just show that a huge amount of minorities will not stand for the existing culture of America. They want to create it in their own image, which apparently includes some form of wealth transfer through socialist policies.
Seems like the price of diversity is having your culture dissolved and politics takes a hard-left.
Discuss.
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It's to do with insecurity.
Imagine you grew up in a land that was and is plagued with serious issues.
Then you move to another land later in life and see how good life is there.
You question why it is the way it is.
The only difference is the people.
You wake up every morning looking yourself in the mirror knowing that your home country will never reach the same level of success.
It's a tough pill to swallow.
You end up hating the country and the people there due to your home country's shortcomings.
Queue the inevitable chip on the shoulder.
Imagine you grew up in a land that was and is plagued with serious issues.
Then you move to another land later in life and see how good life is there.
You question why it is the way it is.
The only difference is the people.
You wake up every morning looking yourself in the mirror knowing that your home country will never reach the same level of success.
It's a tough pill to swallow.
You end up hating the country and the people there due to your home country's shortcomings.
Queue the inevitable chip on the shoulder.
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
That Singapore has 0.8 or less fertility rates, like since the 70s its been under replacement. Was surprised haven't seen the worst European nations being under 1. Understandable though when you have big cities and average GDP per capita over 100k. Who's going to have a litter of children when it's just skyscrapers everywhere and they'd end up spending one third or half of their salaries on rent.Regarding birthrates, I'm more of a conservationist and someone anti metropolitan so my ideal is stable birthrates with slighty above replacement levels. And limited immigration topping out at 100k.
South Korea is also at barely 1 but their population has been increasing and remaining steady the past decades, i think only last 2 years it's been around 0.9 and the numbers are slowing down but everything is started to get more advanced so why would it matter if their population dropped a few millions in decades if half of jobs would get autoamted...
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
All financial gains from slavery were quickly negated by the industrial revolution. Had the United States broke away from Great Britain after the Industrial revolution with all the same ideals, minus slavery, we would be a far more advanced and wealthy society than we are today because we would have far less social strife and crime. Today we are so hung up on race and since the 1960s we have spent trillions of dollars attempting to address it to nobody's satisfaction. All the billions wasted on diversity initiatives, welfare and police as well as other Kum ba yah bullchit could have been used to promote real scientific research and investment in productive capital.Weren't black slaves used to build America too?
The amount of wealth slaves created during the height of slavery would be $2.5 billion dollars in today's money, but averaged around $1.2 billion. So in 89 years of legal slavery, slaves created $106 billion in wealth. That pales in comparison to the amount of money that has been spent atoning for slavery. Not to mention that the civil war itself destroyed much of the wealth that had been built off of slavery.
The govt could give every minority $1 million dollars right now, and within 10 years we'd once again have people perpetually whining about how unfairly the country with the most successful minorities has treated them. That's what happens when you teach victimhood.
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Originally Posted By sam212⏩
You don't even have to use violence - you merely ban them from all services, schools, medical care, ban on driving etc. They came to my homeland for a better life, they can return home for a better life and implement what they saw in the West.That’s all fine but how do you plan to remove 40 percent minorities? Even if you get all of white brethren on board, you’ll still have a bloodbath at your hand.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
Exactly.No, that is phucking retarded. Diversity only becomes a problem when the dominant culture loses its confidence in itself and can no longer explain properly why it is dominant and it therefore stop assimilating people.
The reason why countries with one ethnicity (not the same thing as race) are more cohesive, is because they have a dominant culture the creates a unifying customs, narratives and experiences across regions and sub-cultures.
Despite what White Nationalists say, we have a prominent example of members of the same white race going to war largely along the lines of ethnic differences/allegiances and that is the Bosnian war. Thousands died, and mass rapes targeting members of 'the other' ethnic group were carried out. The idea that racial homogeneity alone is the answer is complete nonsense when you look at history. We can even see that going back to the Ango-Saxons and Scandanavians, who had radically different cultures and had violent conflicts with one another.
Ethnonationalists make more sense than white nationalists when it comes to pragmatism, but IME white nationalism is not a political leaning based on pragmatism.
Multiculturalism is arguably the issue, not intrinsically multiethnic or multiracial societies.
Singapore had problems when it first formed, but they have put a lot of effort into promoting Cultural Nationalism, and social cohesion between the Chinese, Malays, and Indians in the nation races have gotten better over time. One issue in the west is the lack of will to promote and acknowledgethe bestof the culture of their nations, instead IME it's only OK to talk about the worst (e.g. Slavery, racial oppression, patriarchy, homophobia, etc). Cultural Nationalists are often framed as racists by the MSM, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
I'm on the outside looking in, but it doesn't sound to me like African-Americans, Asian-Americans and Hispanic-Americans are calling for their ethnic culture to become dominant. IMO what they want is more power (socio-economic and political), which is less to do with culture and more to do with demographic representation in institutions.Now we have a situation where non-white races are competing with the white European and European descended population over who should be the dominant culture which is what happens as we as humans are tribal. This is because most immigration is currently non-white. In my opinion the demographic and culture war between whites and the new immigrants has emboldened blacks many of which harbor a deep resentment towards whites who they see as the dominant culture.
What they seem to be arguing for is multiculturalism, not for their ethnic sub-cultures to dominate America.
IMO those groups like BLM are progressive, and care little about cultural promotion or preservation. They seem to be far more political aspirations than cultural aspirations.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
It still has to be within reason though. You can't lose the phucking majority. No one is going to assimilate if you can't even hold onto your demographic majority. The media constantly brags about the waning political power of white people in this country and they are correct.Exactly.
The reason why countries with one ethnicity (not the same thing as race) are more cohesive, is because they have a dominant culture the creates a unifying customs, narratives and experiences across regions and sub-cultures.
Despite what White Nationalists say, we have a prominent example of members of the same white race going to war largely along the lines of ethnic differences/allegiances and that is the Bosnian war. Thousands died, and mass rapes targeting members of 'the other' ethnic group were carried out. The idea that racial homogeneity alone is the answer is complete nonsense when you look at history. We can even see that going back to the Ango-Saxons and Scandanavians, who had radically different cultures and had violent conflicts with one another.
Ethnonationalists make more sense than white nationalists when it comes to pragmatism, but IME white nationalism is not a political leaning based on pragmatism.
Multiculturalism is arguably the issue, not intrinsically multiethnic or multiracial societies.
Singapore had problems when it first formed, but they have put a lot of effort into promoting Cultural Nationalism, and social cohesion between the Chinese, Malays, and Indians in the nation races have gotten better over time. One issue in the west is the lack of will to promote and acknowledgethe bestof the culture of their nations, instead IME it's only OK to talk about the worst (e.g. Slavery, racial oppression, patriarchy, homophobia, etc). Cultural Nationalists are often framed as racists by the MSM, unfortunately.
The reason why countries with one ethnicity (not the same thing as race) are more cohesive, is because they have a dominant culture the creates a unifying customs, narratives and experiences across regions and sub-cultures.
Despite what White Nationalists say, we have a prominent example of members of the same white race going to war largely along the lines of ethnic differences/allegiances and that is the Bosnian war. Thousands died, and mass rapes targeting members of 'the other' ethnic group were carried out. The idea that racial homogeneity alone is the answer is complete nonsense when you look at history. We can even see that going back to the Ango-Saxons and Scandanavians, who had radically different cultures and had violent conflicts with one another.
Ethnonationalists make more sense than white nationalists when it comes to pragmatism, but IME white nationalism is not a political leaning based on pragmatism.
Multiculturalism is arguably the issue, not intrinsically multiethnic or multiracial societies.
Singapore had problems when it first formed, but they have put a lot of effort into promoting Cultural Nationalism, and social cohesion between the Chinese, Malays, and Indians in the nation races have gotten better over time. One issue in the west is the lack of will to promote and acknowledgethe bestof the culture of their nations, instead IME it's only OK to talk about the worst (e.g. Slavery, racial oppression, patriarchy, homophobia, etc). Cultural Nationalists are often framed as racists by the MSM, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
Damn rip those based Latinos we've been hearing about. Like I told me, they are capped at around 35% at best.looks like the election was decided by the diversity. thanks
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
So that justice reform or what ever Trump did for Blacks got him 2% more of their votes then normally? Ye that defn. was Republicans last chance at winning the presidency. 4 more years of the numbers going in dems favor. When the media has more power then you and cuts you off lol.Damn rip those based Latinos we've been hearing about. Like I told me, they are capped at around 35% at best.
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Originally Posted By OttomanEmpire⏩
White vote is the same as 2016 with improvements in the other demographic groups so these numbers are either slightly off or whites as a percentage of the vote decreased significantly (or cheating.) Trump got 8% of the black vote last time so a 4% increase lol (if accurate.)So that justice reform or what ever Trump did for Blacks got him 2% more of their votes then normally? Ye that defn. was Republicans last chance at winning the presidency. 4 more years of the numbers going in dems favor. When the media has more power then you and cuts you off lol.
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I said Biden would win before and the graph vindicate me. All this redwave chit; you can't fight demographics. If America were even 80% White, Trump would've won. We cannot win with 'Democracy'.
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Diversity is an indoctrination of whites to disarm themselves of racial and cultural identity at best, and to flat out make them hate themselves at worst. Yes, when you take the people that perpetuate western civilization and replace them with others that cannot perpetuate western civilization, that civilization will fail.
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What are we supposed to do in the next 10 years when whites are phased out for diversity? We can't do another q0 to 20 years of this marxism/diversity and inclusion stuff
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
Most of Illegals coming in come from the poorer regions of Mexico(the south). Most people their are more on the Native American side. Also many of them cant read Spanish. The ones who come here legally come from the north.Some Hipsanics actually want to assimilate and even identify as white. Not the majority though.
The whitest Latinos in the US are Miami Cubans. Many of them are full Spanish. They pretty much shaped Miami. The nost successful group is Cubans. Cuban Americans are also the most Latino group in America they speak Spanish on average more then Mexican & Central Americans. Many Mexicans lose their Spanish after being here for generations unlike Cubans
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You cant really blame anybody but white people for not stopping immigration also for being selfish & having barely any kids. The US is going to be Latino/Asian majority in the future
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
In how long time will you start seeing that more so that it's a given reality?You cant really blame anybody but white people for not stopping immigration also for being selfish & having barely any kids. The US is going to be Latino/Asian majority in the future
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Originally Posted By OttomanEmpire⏩
I'm not sure becuz birth rate of Americanized Latino people in the US is a lot lower then ones barely coming in, so it maybe slow. Also many Mexican Americans have been going back to Mexico by choice. Most of the immigrants wanting to come now come from central America. Who knows really what will happen. Doesnt Biden also want to import a bunch of muslim refugees? the future is too unclear to really know 100%In how long time will you start seeing that more so that it's a given reality?
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
That’s the problem though, there is no such thing is everyone sharing the pie equally. One group doing better is another group doing worse. There always has to be a dominant culture and with the demographic changes we are seeing the dominant white culture and power structure being challenged by groups who want to be in that position. When I talk about dominant culture I’m not just talking about what food is most commonly sold or what language is most commonly spoke. When you have a group or groups who want to see more people in power who look like them, who will advocate for their group interests and less people who look like me, who will advocate for my group interests that is a cultural and power struggle.I'm on the outside looking in, but it doesn't sound to me like African-Americans, Asian-Americans and Hispanic-Americans are calling for their ethnic culture to become dominant. IMO what they want is more power (socio-economic and political), which is less to do with culture and more to do with demographic representation in institutions.
What they seem to be arguing for is multiculturalism, not for their ethnic sub-cultures to dominate America.
IMO those groups like BLM are progressive, and care little about cultural promotion or preservation. They seem to be far more political aspirations than cultural aspirations.
What they seem to be arguing for is multiculturalism, not for their ethnic sub-cultures to dominate America.
IMO those groups like BLM are progressive, and care little about cultural promotion or preservation. They seem to be far more political aspirations than cultural aspirations.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
A lot of these white liberals and Democrats are in for a rude awakening when they're ousted from power in favor of someone who looks more like the Democratic base, like what happened with the squad. Being one of the "good" whites is not going to save them.That’s the problem though, there is no such thing is everyone sharing the pie equally. One group doing better is another group doing worse. There always has to be a dominant culture and with the demographic changes we are seeing the dominant white culture and power structure being challenged by groups who want to be in that position. When I talk about dominant culture I’m not just talking about what food is most commonly sold or what language is most commonly spoke. When you have a group or groups who want to see more people in power who look like them, who will advocate for their group interests and less people who look like me, who will advocate for my group interests that is a cultural and power struggle.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
It doesn't seem like you are talking about culture then, it sounds like you are talking about demographic power struggles.That’s the problem though, there is no such thing is everyone sharing the pie equally. One group doing better is another group doing worse. There always has to be a dominant culture and with the demographic changes we are seeing the dominant white culture and power structure being challenged by groups who want to be in that position.
When I talk about dominant culture I’m not just talking about what food is most commonly sold or what language is most commonly spoke.
Nothing I wrote implied that I thought you were talking about food or language.It sounds like you are talking about more about demographics than culture.
When you have a group or groups who want to see more people in power who look like them, who will advocate for their group interests and less people who look like me, who will advocate for my group interests that is a cultural and power struggle.
That's not culture.For example, IME most American White Nationalists care little about culture. Many know nothing about European culture. history, and nor has European culture largely shaped their customs, traditions, etc. Due to the young nature of American, 'White American' culture IMO is pretty eclectic. IME most White Nationalists really just care about what you are talking about, being around people who look like them, that IME is often the depth of their expressed desire. (That and safety, IMO they don't believe they will be treated well if they become a relative minority).
Honestly, IMO what you are writing is far a political struggle than a cultural one. "The American Dream" championed by conservatives was literally created by Hollywood in the 20th century for example (like the documentary An Empire Of Their Own explains).
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
American Nationalist Conservativism is intrinsically white, but not exclusively white. It's culturally Nationalist, not ethnically/racially nationalist, and the Culture that America is built on is Eclectic and European in nature.It still has to be within reason though. You can't lose the phucking majority. No one is going to assimilate if you can't even hold onto your demographic majority. The media constantly brags about the waning political power of white people in this country and they are correct.
It's also why you see that Nationalist Conservative non-whites have no problem acknowledge and adopting White American culture (alongside the sub culture of their ethnicity). Also, non-white Nationalist Conservativism believe in strictly controlled immigration.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
It’s both a power and cultural struggle tied to the demographic changes. Most white Right-wingers want European culture to be the dominant culture and under a majority white European or European descended population. Most white Nationalists do care about culture, of course race is at the forefront but everything else is a product of that race so not only do they want to preserve their majority but they want to preserve their cultures, customs, languages, foods, architecture, literature, etc as well. I think you are mostly talking about the MAGA populist types that don’t really know much about European history, but actual white nationalist/race realist types are extremely well read most of the time, I’m not referring to KKK types, I’m talking the Richard Spencer, Peter Brimelow, Jared Taylor, Kevin MacDonald, etc types. Even someone like Nick Fuentes who I don’t consider a white nationalist but someone who shares many overlapping ideals with a Paleoconservative base.It doesn't seem like you are talking about culture then, it sounds like you are talking about demographic power struggles.
Nothing I wrote implied that I thought you were talking about food or language.
It sounds like you are talking about more about demographics than culture.
That's not culture.
For example, IME most American White Nationalists care little about culture. Many know nothing about European culture. history, and nor has European culture largely shaped their customs, traditions, etc. Due to the young nature of American, 'White American' culture IMO is pretty eclectic. IME most White Nationalists really just care about what you are talking about, being around people who look like them, that IME is often the depth of their expressed desire. (That and safety, IMO they don't believe they will be treated well if they become a relative minority).
Honestly, IMO what you are writing is far a political struggle than a cultural one. "The American Dream" championed by conservatives was literally created by Hollywood in the 20th century for example (like the documentary An Empire Of Their Own explains).
Nothing I wrote implied that I thought you were talking about food or language.
It sounds like you are talking about more about demographics than culture.
That's not culture.
For example, IME most American White Nationalists care little about culture. Many know nothing about European culture. history, and nor has European culture largely shaped their customs, traditions, etc. Due to the young nature of American, 'White American' culture IMO is pretty eclectic. IME most White Nationalists really just care about what you are talking about, being around people who look like them, that IME is often the depth of their expressed desire. (That and safety, IMO they don't believe they will be treated well if they become a relative minority).
Honestly, IMO what you are writing is far a political struggle than a cultural one. "The American Dream" championed by conservatives was literally created by Hollywood in the 20th century for example (like the documentary An Empire Of Their Own explains).
The American Dream was not a come one, come all advertisement. We had an immigration program designed to keep the country majority white till 1965. Up till that point the country was 90% white. The idea is we earned this land by right of military conquest and since the founders of the nation and all who set up the core culture, language and institutions were white we should forever hold a significant majority. The people who decided to waver from this are masochist liberals who wanted to see their demographic suicided out of some guilt complex and neocons who wanted the country flooded with cheap labor.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
From what I've read and seen, culture is the result of ethncities, not race. Race is way too broad, an includes a number of distinct demographics e.g. ethnicities.It’s both a power and cultural struggle tied to the demographic changes. Most white Right-wingers want European culture to be the dominant culture and under a majority white European or European descended population. Most white Nationalists do care about culture, of course race is at the forefront but everything else is a product of that race
For example, Christianity was a massively unifying force for Europe (it spread common language via Latin being a Lingua Franca amongst clerics, customs, etc), there were commonalities in Europe prior to the dominance of Christianity, but there were also massive differences. E.g. The differences between the Anglo Saxons and the Scandanvian culture.
Christianity as you know came from the middle east, and was assimilated into Europe, so Religion plays a big role.
As does environment, like the kind of culture that emerges in a colder climate versus a hotter climate, or an urban environment and a rural environment, etc.
Economics also shapes culture a lot, as we can see via the massive cultural transformation in countries like South Korea, Singapore and China in the 20th century.
I don't think it's accurate to just say that culture is a product of race/genetics, when it's also a product of environment, religion, economics, etc.
I think you are mostly talking about the MAGA populist types that don’t really know much about European history, but actual white nationalist/race realist types are extremely well read
I have not seen that.The pundits like people you mention are, but IME of debating a bunch of White Nationalists on and off this site. I as a black man I find that I know know more about European History and The European History of Ideas than they do. It's incredibly common, IME.
I was watching a debate with Destiny the other day, and a White Nationalist dude was talking about European music and Destiny had to school him on it, because he knew embarrassing little despite bringing the subject up himself in order to assert the superiority of European music.
The American Dream was not a come one, come all advertisement.
That wasn't my point when I mentioned the American Dream. It was that what is called Traditional American values IME is largely a product of TV and movies. The 1950s style gender roles honestly seems to be largely an invention of TV. I'm not saying that there weren't gender roles, but it was largely a transient period of American history not 'tradition'.The notion of meritocracy and entrepreneurship being instrinsic to traditional American culture seems to come from 20th century Hollywood. The American Dream.
The protestant Work Ethic though seems like it's been a part of the US from the start.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
That is false narrative that has been created, and is promoted.The people who decided to waver from this are masochist liberals who wanted to see their demographic suicided out of some guilt complex and neocons who wanted the country flooded with cheap labor.
In terms of relative numbers, yes demographics are shifting, but there is no 'suicide' becausein absolute numbers there has never been a bigger population of white people in the US, or on the planet.
It's inaccurate to talk about 'suicide', or not to make it clear to people that in terms of absolute numbers white people are doing just fine.
If anyone compares the absolute numbers of white people in the US in the 18th century to the 21st century you'll see what I mean.
I'm not saying that invalidates concern about relative numbers, but it changes the context of the debate to point out the the problem is not 'suicide', it's relative numbers.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
what do you think will happen when whites are a minority? the blacks see us as the race who enslaved them, mexicans are taught that we are land thieves. when we are 10-20% of the population, do you think they will treat us well?That is false narrative that has been created, and is promoted.
In terms of relative numbers, yes demographics are shifting, but there is no 'suicide' becausein absolute numbers there has never been a bigger population of white people in the US, or on the planet.
It's inaccurate to talk about 'suicide', or not to make it clear to people that in terms of absolute numbers white people are doing just fine.
If anyone compares the absolute numbers of white people in the US in the 18th century to the 21st century you'll see what I mean.
I'm not saying that invalidates concern about relative numbers, but it changes the context of the debate to point out the the problem is not 'suicide', it's relative numbers.
In terms of relative numbers, yes demographics are shifting, but there is no 'suicide' becausein absolute numbers there has never been a bigger population of white people in the US, or on the planet.
It's inaccurate to talk about 'suicide', or not to make it clear to people that in terms of absolute numbers white people are doing just fine.
If anyone compares the absolute numbers of white people in the US in the 18th century to the 21st century you'll see what I mean.
I'm not saying that invalidates concern about relative numbers, but it changes the context of the debate to point out the the problem is not 'suicide', it's relative numbers.
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