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Thread: How do we change the Obesity Pandemic?

post 1660405323 04-28-2022, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By eternalnoob⏩
How about just free Healthcare subsidized by the fatties if you're under the BMI limit for your age group?

Of course the BMI needs adusted a bit since currently it classifies most muscular people as obese.
You don't understand why we use BMI; it's very rare that musculature puts a man out of his healthy BMI range & it's almost never done naturally

Your body does not care whether it's muscle or fat that's straining it, they both impair function with fat being worse overall


Weight is weight even though being fat is more unaesthetic
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
You don't understand why we use BMI; it's very rare that musculature puts a man out of his healthy BMI range & it's almost never done naturally

Your body does not care whether it's muscle or fat that's straining it, they both impair function with fat being worse overall


Weight is weight even though being fat is more unaesthetic
And if you are a mesomorph that has lifted for over 20 years consistently with quite a bit of mass from training, is it still unhealthy?
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
You don't understand why we use BMI; it's very rare that musculature puts a man out of his healthy BMI range & it's almost never done naturally
that's not true at all - the entire US Men's Olympic rowing team would be considered overweight by the BMI
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
COMPLETELY revamp urban & suburban infrastructure in favor of walking/cycling.

the USA has been built around the central idea of sitting on ur ass 24/7.

You can take a bicycle through socal/ny/houston faster than a car, yet every fat fuk is sitting in a car....

people in the USA will drive 1 mile to buy a lime without even noticing how absurd that is.

Amsterdam/Netherlands uses bike paths and pedestrian paths as a priority over streets for cars. They are literally eliminating roads and replacing them with parks, paths, and pedestrian areas.

Now we have E-bikes available, so even a fat fuk useless american could easily get 40 miles without breaking a sweat, while still being forced to use SOME cardio capacity.

Look at this.... You could send ur fat kid to school on a bike, they could see their friends on a bike, you could ride to the store on a bike.... You could do work commutes on bike, etc etc etc etc.

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No thanks. There are more than enough ****git cyclists already clogging up the roads in my hood.

Just tax the fukers through the nose until they decide to lose weight.

Doubling health insurance premiums would be a great start.
Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
that's not true at all - the entire US Men's Olympic rowing team would be considered overweight by the BMI
Right, but what percentage of the population is an Olympian, a professional athlete, or even an avid lifter?

BMI isn’t perfect, but it’s an adequate method of measuring overall health status.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
so sugar taxes that make processed food prohibitively expensive - first rational thought you've made in this thread
Again, you are a retard.

People do not "eat sugar" rather they eat foods that taste good for sport or to have pleasure.

It's middle class soccer mom bourgeois thinking to blame "sugar" when it's actually pathological stress and boredom. Cowards like this always try to deny real problems, like we are working slaves with little or no pleasure in life.

I explained this probably over five times.

Food HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBESITY just like tobacco has nothing to do with why people smoke.
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post 1660406983 04-28-2022, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
so is it because people don't care as you said above or because of the rich people enslaving us?

How does this theory account for the number of obese people who don't actually work?
Again, this is f@cking stupid....

Are slaves known to be highly motivated innovators?

No.

Do slave people actually want to work?

No.
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Originally Posted By kovalchuk71⏩
Just tax the fukers through the nose until they decide to lose weight.

Doubling health insurance premiums would be a great start.
This doesn’t work when the vast amount of American obese already receive free healthcare and hundreds of dollars a month in EBT.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
And if you are a mesomorph that has lifted for over 20 years consistently with quite a bit of mass from training, is it still unhealthy?
Literally 1 in 500,000 scenario but yes it is & I stated why

Go sleep with a 25 pound blanket over your upper body tonight & record your self-induced sleep apnea; one of many issues overweight people suffer from
Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
that's not true at all - the entire US Men's Olympic rowing team would be considered overweight by the BMI
I don't keep up with rowing but they probably are overweight; JFL @ thinking anyone in the Olympics has been natural over the last 30 years
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post 1660412713 04-28-2022, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By LtGoose⏩
Cookingcels mad AF @ red pill
I cook and enjoy cooking a good meal, but you're not wrong. It takes time. Eventually when you have a lot of chit to do, cooking and washing dishes isn't a good use of it.

That's why we men need women. That's there job.
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
I don't keep up with rowing but they probably are overweight; JFL @ thinking anyone in the Olympics has been natural over the last 30 years
well I didn't make the team but I was clean and listed as overweight according to the BMI with a single digit BF%
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Again, you are a retard.

People do not "eat sugar" rather they eat foods that taste good for sport or to have pleasure.

It's middle class soccer mom bourgeois thinking to blame "sugar" when it's actually pathological stress and boredom. Cowards like this always try to deny real problems, like we are working slaves with little or no pleasure in life.

I explained this probably over five times.

Food HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBESITY just like tobacco has nothing to do with why people smoke.
so there is no such thing as addiction to food or tobacco?

you know damn well the processed foods are laden with refined sugars that make you crave more of them - but that isn't the problem? The eff it isn't. you can explain it away all you want, but the fact is, if you removed all food products with refined sugars, the obesity rates would drop. Not to zero, but it would go down significantly. It starts with convenience and turns into addiction but you want to make it some bolshevik nonsense.

you're a joke
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Food HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBESITY
Calories in vs calories out

That's the Law of Thermodynamics
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Food HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBESITY just like tobacco has nothing to do with why people smoke.
And i guess water has nothing to do with drowning ............... dumb fck
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
And i guess water has nothing to do with drowning ............... dumb fck
Moronic.

People do not accidentally eat or smoke.

Learn how to f@cking think.
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
Calories in vs calories out

That's the Law of Thermodynamics
Again, this is moronic.

Do you believe that people do not know that eating massive amounts of food leads to gaining fat?

Literally, every adult of average IQ knows how people get fat.

So, why do they overeat and eat when they aren't hungry?

You have to be an idiot to think people do not know this or that they are eating some food with a hidden 4,000 calories in it.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Moronic.

People do not accidentally eat or smoke.

Learn how to f@cking think.
you are a fkn idiot....please stop embarassing yourself fella

people do not accidently go to swimming pools or the ocean
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
so there is no such thing as addiction to food or tobacco?

you know damn well the processed foods are laden with refined sugars that make you crave more of them - but that isn't the problem? The eff it isn't. you can explain it away all you want, but the fact is, if you removed all food products with refined sugars, the obesity rates would drop. Not to zero, but it would go down significantly. It starts with convenience and turns into addiction but you want to make it some bolshevik nonsense.

you're a joke
People can literally stop shooting heroin because they decided to, withdraw, and they are okay.

There is no food in the world that has an effect that makes people sick if they don't eat it. The same thing goes for smoking.

There is no addictive substance people stay addicted to.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
People can literally stop shooting heroin because they decided to, withdraw, and they are okay.

There is no food in the world that has an effect that makes people sick if they don't eat it. The same thing goes for smoking.

There is no addictive substance people stay addicted to.
Cold turkey
Is it safe?
The safety of quitting cold turkey depends on the substance you’re trying to quit. Getting off cigarettes or alcohol may be safe to do on your own.

Quitting highly addictive drugs or a severe alcohol dependence can cause serious side effects, and in some cases, death. It’s better to be under the care of a doctor or addiction treatment center.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
Cold turkey
Is it safe?
The safety of quitting cold turkey depends on the substance you’re trying to quit. Getting off cigarettes or alcohol may be safe to do on your own.

Quitting highly addictive drugs or a severe alcohol dependence can cause serious side effects, and in some cases, death. It’s better to be under the care of a doctor or addiction treatment center.
I have known a good number of people who stopped using heroin without any support and were fine. You get sick and then your body restarts and makes its own opiates, then you are okay.

There's no such thing like that regarding food and tobacco isn't addictive like opiates by any stretch of the imagination.

People just LIKE food because it tastes good. There is nothing addictive about any food substance. For that reason, no food type should be taxed.

There's people who work hard and if they want to eat a bucket of ice cream, then that's their right. They are not the same as a person who doesn't burn calories and eats it. So, no normal person should have to pay tax on normal food.

Regarding tobacco, people get irritable when quitting, which is similar to caffeine.

That is barely in the range of additive.
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Taxing products that make people fat if misused? No, not appropriate at all, because it affects everyone who uses the products.

We should take away benefits, both healthcare and financial, for people of a certain bodyfat % IMO
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
I have known a good number of people who stopped using heroin without any support and were fine.
Oh you know some people that didn't die? That must mean it's fine and no one has ever died. Strong logic
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
Taxing products that make people fat if misused? No, not appropriate at all, because it affects everyone who uses the products.

We should take away benefits, both healthcare and financial, for people of a certain bodyfat % IMO
So the only way a person will get health insurance is if they'll at a proper weight or fitness level?

So I guess like how people have to lose weight first in order to have gastric bypass surgery.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
I have known a good number of people who stopped using heroin without any support and were fine. You get sick and then your body restarts and makes its own opiates, then you are okay.
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fck me , well seeing as you know a few people , we should ignore years of science and treatment and just go with that............


seriously STFU and stop chitting up the thread



'your body RESTARTS and MAKES its own Opiates'!
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
So the only way a person will get health insurance is if they'll at a proper weight or fitness level?
At the bare minimum. I'm Ausbrah and everyone gets "free" healthcare here so the fatties (usually poor and don't pay taxes anyway) get any lifesaving treatment/surgery they need without paying a thing.

In USA health insurance for obese people should be astronomical, like unaffordable, to remedy the imbalance.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
At the bare minimum. I'm Ausbrah and everyone gets "free" healthcare here so the fatties (usually poor and don't pay taxes anyway) get any lifesaving treatment/surgery they need without paying a thing.
e.
same in the UK, the cheapest intervention for fatties is gastric bands...........sometimes they have to get even fatter to qualify to get the surgery!
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
everything about pedestrian infrastructure is better....

less noise, a thousand times better lifestyle for children, cheaper road upkeep, mental health benefits of being outdoors, physical health benefits of moving around... Cities that are absolute chitholes (los angeles/new york/chicago) would actually be tolerable and even nice to live in if they had dutch-style pedestrian infrastructure.

but it'll never happen, because "I NEED MUH CAR TO PICK UP BOBBY FROM SOCCER 1.4 MILES AWAY"
Would get murdered on the way to work though no thanks
Would kick em in the nuts
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america's having an obesity epidemic

it's nice to know latinos are legally represented
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
everything about pedestrian infrastructure is better....

less noise, a thousand times better lifestyle for children, cheaper road upkeep, mental health benefits of being outdoors, physical health benefits of moving around... Cities that are absolute chitholes (los angeles/new york/chicago) would actually be tolerable and even nice to live in if they had dutch-style pedestrian infrastructure.

but it'll never happen, because "I NEED MUH CAR TO PICK UP BOBBY FROM SOCCER 1.4 MILES AWAY"
Even China has clearly surpassed most of the US in infrastructure and quality of life for the average citizen.

No low level crime or mass insanity like obesity or drug abuse

Acceptable GDP for many

Modern infrastructure at 1000000x the pace US develops it
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