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04-11-2014, 11:07 PM
#2221
I really wouldn't get too worked up either way about a #2 TE who averages like 300 yards/year.
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04-12-2014, 12:13 AM
#2222
Originally Posted By chlaxman⏩
I think the receivers are gonna go like hotcakes. Panthers need to take one early before the good ones are gone.
Like the DeCoud signing. Still think they need to draft a WR in round 1.
Originally Posted By echo117⏩
It is. Ed Dickson might be listed as a TE, but he doesn't stretch the field, he can't block that well, and his hands aren't that great. Will be interesting to see how y'all use him.
talked to my buddy today who is a ravens fan and he said ed dickson is trash. drops everything etc. =(
i hope this isn't true my brahs
i hope this isn't true my brahs
Originally Posted By MtnJax⏩
Yeah, Dickson's pressence won't affect Olsen's numbers.
Change of scenery could always help. also, Olsen is still the #1 receiving target at TE. Dickson would be the #2 TE like Olsen was when we had Shockey
Originally Posted By echo117⏩
No, Dickson was a FA because he stunk in Baltimore. Pitta's alright when healthy, Daniels can't stay healthy, and Dickson just couldn't make it happen when Pitta was out of the way last year.
True. I'm still optimistic he will do ok. It just brought me down a little when he said it. Didn't know much about him. I know they have pita and daniels now which is I guess why dickson was a fa.
Originally Posted By bossavery⏩
One can hope.
have a buddy that told me the same exact thing srs. told me he was ****ty and had no hands. maybe a change of scenery will help
Originally Posted By chlaxman⏩
^This. Can't really hurt to give him a shot. And let's be honest, the Ravens O was chit. Dickson should be a decent depth kind of guy behind Olsen if nothing else.
I really wouldn't get too worked up either way about a #2 TE who averages like 300 yards/year.
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05-01-2014, 04:46 PM
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Why does it feel like this draft is taking forever to get here?
I feel more sure now than ever that we'll plunge on OLine first just given the WR depth in this thing and the fact that if 5 or so WR go before we even get on the clock that it's kind of a crap shoot between some guy at that pick and some guy a round later.
I feel more sure now than ever that we'll plunge on OLine first just given the WR depth in this thing and the fact that if 5 or so WR go before we even get on the clock that it's kind of a crap shoot between some guy at that pick and some guy a round later.
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05-01-2014, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted By sircharles032⏩
Yeah, but a crap shoot of a lot of talented WRs.
Why does it feel like this draft is taking forever to get here?
I feel more sure now than ever that we'll plunge on OLine first just given the WR depth in this thing and the fact that if 5 or so WR go before we even get on the clock that it's kind of a crap shoot between some guy at that pick and some guy a round later.
I feel more sure now than ever that we'll plunge on OLine first just given the WR depth in this thing and the fact that if 5 or so WR go before we even get on the clock that it's kind of a crap shoot between some guy at that pick and some guy a round later.
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05-06-2014, 07:08 AM
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Barnwell:
Whole thing:
http://grantland.com/features/nfl-dr...ks-every-team/
I know the two (or three) have nothing to do with each other, but I can't get excited about another USC WR.
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Round 1, Pick 28: WR Marqise Lee, USC
Round 2, Pick 60: T Tiny Richardson, Tennessee
After hemorrhaging talent this offseason, the Panthers are left drafting for need. They have two obvious deficiencies. The only question, really, is whether they take the wide receiver before the tackle or vice versa. Given the way the draft will probably play out, theyre likely to get more value taking a wideout first. They would love it if Cooks or Beckham fell to them at 28, but theyre drafting low and cant afford to trade up. Lee doesnt have their speed or the freakish downfield ability of Mike Evans, but hes a sound receiver who could be Carolinas no. 1 the moment they take him. Despite his nickname, the 6-foot-6 Richardson has the size to play left tackle. He may not have the skill, but Carolinas so desperate that it might not matter.
Round 1, Pick 28: WR Marqise Lee, USC
Round 2, Pick 60: T Tiny Richardson, Tennessee
After hemorrhaging talent this offseason, the Panthers are left drafting for need. They have two obvious deficiencies. The only question, really, is whether they take the wide receiver before the tackle or vice versa. Given the way the draft will probably play out, theyre likely to get more value taking a wideout first. They would love it if Cooks or Beckham fell to them at 28, but theyre drafting low and cant afford to trade up. Lee doesnt have their speed or the freakish downfield ability of Mike Evans, but hes a sound receiver who could be Carolinas no. 1 the moment they take him. Despite his nickname, the 6-foot-6 Richardson has the size to play left tackle. He may not have the skill, but Carolinas so desperate that it might not matter.
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I know the two (or three) have nothing to do with each other, but I can't get excited about another USC WR.
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05-06-2014, 07:27 AM
#2226
All reports are that Gettleman isnt going to reach on a player at a position of need. BPA at WR, TE, S and CB in the first couple of rounds. Just what Ive heard on the radio in Charlotte.
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05-06-2014, 10:17 PM
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I really want a receiver, I've seen a lot of mock drafts have us reaching for Moses or the tackle from Nevada. I don't want neither
05-07-2014, 07:58 AM
#2228
Originally Posted By sircharles032⏩
I agree with this. Theres way too much talent of WR in the 2nd round that the talent drop off wont be that bad. Best case scenerio Cyrus Kouandijo makes his way all the way to the 28th pick. I know it brings back memories of Jeff Otah, but the potential in that guy(if healthy) is worth the risk. Also 2nd round we could still possibly get a Davante Adams, Martavius Bryant or Allen Robinson.
Why does it feel like this draft is taking forever to get here?
I feel more sure now than ever that we'll plunge on OLine first just given the WR depth in this thing and the fact that if 5 or so WR go before we even get on the clock that it's kind of a crap shoot between some guy at that pick and some guy a round later.
I feel more sure now than ever that we'll plunge on OLine first just given the WR depth in this thing and the fact that if 5 or so WR go before we even get on the clock that it's kind of a crap shoot between some guy at that pick and some guy a round later.
Originally Posted By NCBrah⏩
I agree, USC has produced some flops over the last few years. After watching the stuff on Lee, I really like him. Hes got a awesome laid back personality off the field as well. I actually think he will be solid but will take a few years told emerge.
Barnwell:
Whole thing:
http://grantland.com/features/nfl-dr...ks-every-team/
I know the two (or three) have nothing to do with each other, but I can't get excited about another USC WR.
Whole thing:
http://grantland.com/features/nfl-dr...ks-every-team/
I know the two (or three) have nothing to do with each other, but I can't get excited about another USC WR.
Originally Posted By SwagMorris⏩
Thats what I hear too. And given last year him drafting back to back DTS, he def takes talent. If a decent cornerback falls Im sure he would jump on that and make our defense even more nasty.
All reports are that Gettleman isnt going to reach on a player at a position of need. BPA at WR, TE, S and CB in the first couple of rounds. Just what Ive heard on the radio in Charlotte.
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05-07-2014, 08:30 AM
#2229
Teams draft mostly for need, all this best available player nonsense is just a front. The Panthers will be taking WR/T in the first round regardless of their board, and they may move up or back depending on which player they feel best about, and how the draft shakes out. After the draft they will claim that the player they took was the best available because that's the only thing you can say.
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05-08-2014, 10:48 AM
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Another Barnwell article, he rips our WRs…
Our Tackles…
AND our CBs….
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...s-by-position/
Wide Receiver
STRONGEST
Bears: Ill admit theres a bit of homerism creeping in here, but is there really a better option? Some people would probably say Denver, and a healthy Atlanta group might have a claim, but Atlanta hasnt been healthy. The Bears could use a speed complement to their massive pair (they worked out DeAnthony Thomas last month), but I dont think theres a better 1-2 combination in football right now than Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall.
WEAKEST
Panthers: This might be the easiest of the bunch. Everyone from the media to fans to their own players has trashed the Panthers receiving corps since the end of last season. And with good reason. As of today, Cam Newtons top two receivers are Jason Avant and Jerricho Cotchery. That is a problem. There will probably be some options when the Panthers pick at 28 (Cody Latimer, Kelvin Benjamin, and others). The complicated part is that wide receiver may not even be Carolinas biggest need. Well get to that.
STRONGEST
Bears: Ill admit theres a bit of homerism creeping in here, but is there really a better option? Some people would probably say Denver, and a healthy Atlanta group might have a claim, but Atlanta hasnt been healthy. The Bears could use a speed complement to their massive pair (they worked out DeAnthony Thomas last month), but I dont think theres a better 1-2 combination in football right now than Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall.
WEAKEST
Panthers: This might be the easiest of the bunch. Everyone from the media to fans to their own players has trashed the Panthers receiving corps since the end of last season. And with good reason. As of today, Cam Newtons top two receivers are Jason Avant and Jerricho Cotchery. That is a problem. There will probably be some options when the Panthers pick at 28 (Cody Latimer, Kelvin Benjamin, and others). The complicated part is that wide receiver may not even be Carolinas biggest need. Well get to that.
Tackle
STRONGEST
Patriots: I could just as easily go with the Bengals for this spot, but New Englands guys are just younger. Nate Solder has been very solid on the left side, and Sebastian Vollmer almost almost makes up for the slew of second-round disasters from the Patriots in the past five years. Where the Pats could use some long-term planning is actually on the interior of their offensive line, where I think Logan Mankins and Dan Connolly have played since the NFLs inception.
WEAKEST
Panthers: This is why Carolinas wide receiver problem isnt as pressing as some people might think. Jordan Grosss retirement was a deathblow for the Panthers offense; their options at left tackle right now are Nate Chandler and Byron Bell. Neither of those inspires much confidence. A player like Nevadas Joel Bitonio might be around at 28, which is when the Panthers may have to decide between offensive tackle and receiver. Again, drafting solely for need is never fun, but Carolina is probably the team with the most pressure to go that route.
STRONGEST
Patriots: I could just as easily go with the Bengals for this spot, but New Englands guys are just younger. Nate Solder has been very solid on the left side, and Sebastian Vollmer almost almost makes up for the slew of second-round disasters from the Patriots in the past five years. Where the Pats could use some long-term planning is actually on the interior of their offensive line, where I think Logan Mankins and Dan Connolly have played since the NFLs inception.
WEAKEST
Panthers: This is why Carolinas wide receiver problem isnt as pressing as some people might think. Jordan Grosss retirement was a deathblow for the Panthers offense; their options at left tackle right now are Nate Chandler and Byron Bell. Neither of those inspires much confidence. A player like Nevadas Joel Bitonio might be around at 28, which is when the Panthers may have to decide between offensive tackle and receiver. Again, drafting solely for need is never fun, but Carolina is probably the team with the most pressure to go that route.
Cornerback
STRONGEST
Seahawks: An argument could be made for a few teams here, but after Richard Shermans massive payday and Seattles proven track record of developing corners, the Seahawks probably deserve the title. With Walter Thurmond gone, Seattle could use someone to step into the role as its slot corner, but my guess is this would still be the team any trio of receivers wants to see least.
WEAKEST
49ers: The Panthers have yet another claim for a worst group, at corner, but that would start to border on cruel. San Francisco has been linked to wide receivers throughout the run-up to the draft, but cornerback is probably its most pressing need. Right now, Chris Culliver and Eric Wright are slated to start at corner; considering the Niners pass defense was great with two better options last year, they should probably look to right that this weekend. On the bright side, this is a cornerback class that supposedly has starters as late as the third round, and San Francisco has approximately 47 picks.
STRONGEST
Seahawks: An argument could be made for a few teams here, but after Richard Shermans massive payday and Seattles proven track record of developing corners, the Seahawks probably deserve the title. With Walter Thurmond gone, Seattle could use someone to step into the role as its slot corner, but my guess is this would still be the team any trio of receivers wants to see least.
WEAKEST
49ers: The Panthers have yet another claim for a worst group, at corner, but that would start to border on cruel. San Francisco has been linked to wide receivers throughout the run-up to the draft, but cornerback is probably its most pressing need. Right now, Chris Culliver and Eric Wright are slated to start at corner; considering the Niners pass defense was great with two better options last year, they should probably look to right that this weekend. On the bright side, this is a cornerback class that supposedly has starters as late as the third round, and San Francisco has approximately 47 picks.
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05-08-2014, 08:36 PM
#2231
Kelvin Benjamin bitches!!!
i've already busted a nut to this pick
i've already busted a nut to this pick
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05-08-2014, 08:40 PM
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Good pick. Inb4 WR in 2nd round.
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05-08-2014, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Swept⏩
At least we didn't resign Lafell, Robert Lester must be terrible in practice if they need to sign Roman Harper.
If the panthers don't draft this guy (if he's there) I'm going to rage
If the panthers don't draft this guy (if he's there) I'm going to rage
I can't even PHUCK YES
05-08-2014, 08:54 PM
#2234
I don't read much scouting but people say he isn't very "polished"…whatever that means. I saw him make beast plays in every FSU game I watched…and his size is a perfect fit for Cam and his tendency to sail a couple passes.
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05-08-2014, 10:25 PM
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LOVED our 1st round pick
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05-09-2014, 05:38 AM
#2236
Thought they were going with Moses in round 1 and WR in 2 but I'm fine with this.
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05-09-2014, 07:48 AM
#2237
Good start happy with this pick….
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05-09-2014, 08:48 AM
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Tbh I'm not a fan of this pick. He is very raw who struggles with separation, has lack luster hands and poor lateral skills. KB also has a very poor vertical, by watching his highlights he barely gets off the ground. I just felt like Lee would have been a great value pick who used to be regarded as a top 10 pick before injuries and bad qb play. KB is a boom or bust player which is something we can't afford, since we need production from the get go.
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05-09-2014, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By LightsXout28c⏩
boom or bust just like Cam was. And that barely getting of the ground stuff is just a flat out lie
Tbh I'm not a fan of this pick. He is very raw who struggles with separation, has lack luster hands and poor lateral skills. KB also has a very poor vertical, by watching his highlights he barely gets off the ground. I just felt like Lee would have been a great value pick who used to be regarded as a top 10 pick before injuries and bad qb play. KB is a boom or bust player which is something we can't afford, since we need production from the get go.
05-09-2014, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Swept⏩
this
And that barely getting of the ground stuff is just a flat out lie
besides, at 6'5 (legit) with 35" arms, does he really need an insane vertical?
also, Gettleman even said last night that he runs more routes in the route tree than most of the other WRs in the draft. if Ricky Proehl gave the OK on Benjamin, then i'm gonna trust their opinion over internet GMs
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05-09-2014, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By Swept⏩
Just because we got the boom with Cam doesnt mean the same will happen with Benjamin. He will help our poor red zone offense this year. i'll give him that. If someone like Landry, Adams, or Robinson(prob not) is there at 60, i wouldn't mind to double dip at wr, then try to get someone like Cyril Richardson in the 3rd if he falls
boom or bust just like Cam was. And that barely getting of the ground stuff is just a flat out lie
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05-09-2014, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By LightsXout28c⏩
We have a track history with 1st round picks, picking Benjamin was the obvious choice especially with Cam and his overthrows.
Just because we got the boom with Cam doesnt mean the same will happen with Benjamin. He will help our poor red zone offense this year. i'll give him that. If someone like Landry, Adams, or Robinson(prob not) is there at 60, i wouldn't mind to double dip at wr, then try to get someone like Cyril Richardson in the 3rd if he falls
I also think we are going to double dip, but we need a deep threat. Adams, Paul Richardson or Moncrief
05-09-2014, 11:46 AM
#2243
Inb4 Lee falls some more and we move up and grab him
In all seriousness wasn't Alshon Jeffrey seen as a very raw, project type WR? I'm okay taking risks on high ceiling guys.
and as said above, the team has drafted 2 out of the last 3 ROY's(and a DPOY..). It could have very well been 3/3 ROY's as well as Star played. If there is one thing I'll blindly trust with this team it's their first round draft picks.
In all seriousness wasn't Alshon Jeffrey seen as a very raw, project type WR? I'm okay taking risks on high ceiling guys.
and as said above, the team has drafted 2 out of the last 3 ROY's(and a DPOY..). It could have very well been 3/3 ROY's as well as Star played. If there is one thing I'll blindly trust with this team it's their first round draft picks.
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05-09-2014, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By LightsXout28c⏩
Wouldn't mind them trading a 4th for Roos if Tennessee would be down. Titans drafted a position they're loaded on and don't really have a place to play him so maybe they'd be fine getting rid of a short contract LT. Then could go with best WR/OT/DB out there (Jordan Matthews or Landry are my favorites).
Just because we got the boom with Cam doesnt mean the same will happen with Benjamin. He will help our poor red zone offense this year. i'll give him that. If someone like Landry, Adams, or Robinson(prob not) is there at 60, i wouldn't mind to double dip at wr, then try to get someone like Cyril Richardson in the 3rd if he falls
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05-09-2014, 12:09 PM
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i wouldn't expect another WR in the next 2 rounds. CB and OL are more likely (and more needed)
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05-09-2014, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By LightsXout28c⏩
Oh, you're one of 'those' fans.
Tbh I'm not a fan of this pick. He is very raw who struggles with separation, has lack luster hands and poor lateral skills. KB also has a very poor vertical, by watching his highlights he barely gets off the ground. I just felt like Lee would have been a great value pick who used to be regarded as a top 10 pick before injuries and bad qb play. KB is a boom or bust player which is something we can't afford, since we need production from the get go.
And lol at him not getting off the ground. You need to lay off of the ESPN article comments brah.
05-09-2014, 01:06 PM
#2247
I think the panthers should double dip like last year. Landry is ideal.
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05-09-2014, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By kethnaab⏩
I jizzed in my pants there
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