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post 10000248813 23 hours ago, 03:29 PM
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Advice on external hard drive appreciated.

Tech nub, and appreciate any advice/tips.


Just need something 2-4 tb to have on the go to offload photo and video files from camera.


Not meant for long time storage, but still feel reliability/not breaking is the number one concern. Don't care about speed.


Seems the big 3 are Seagate, Western digital, and Toshiba.


Started googling the toshiba canvio options - partner, flex, and slim vs each other but there doesn't come up any good comparison vids as expected.


Also wondering about some being mechanical vs ssd in terms of not breaking down. The more expensive toshiba slim is mechanical.


Some sources say mechanical is worse since more points of failure/moving parts etc, others say ssd is less reliable. Any ideas?


It's not a big investment, but I value what I put on it greatly.... so asking misc for insights and recommendations.



Thanks brahs!
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So any SSD will work, just don't buy anything that uses QLC memory.

It may be cheaper to buy an internal SSD and an enclosure.

https://www.amazon.com/WD_BLACK-SN7100-Internal-Gaming-Solid/dp/B0DZK9C789/

https://www.amazon.com/SABRENT-Tool-Free-Enclosure-External-EC-PNVO/dp/B0F933F1G8/
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post 10000248859 23 hours ago, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
So any SSD will work, just don't but anything that uses QLC memory.

It may be cheaper to buy an internal SSD and an enclosure.

https://www.amazon.com/WD_BLACK-SN7100-Internal-Gaming-Solid/dp/B0DZK9C789/

https://www.amazon.com/SABRENT-Tool-Free-Enclosure-External-EC-PNVO/dp/B0F933F1G8/
Thanks a lot, didn't even know about that option. Will look into it.
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You should also be sure to follow the 3-2-1 backup method:



The 3-2-1 rule is a data backup strategy. It means keeping 3 total copies of your data. You store them on 2 different media types. You keep 1 copy off-site. This prevents you from losing all your files if a disaster destroys your primary computer or local storage







I prefer using WD RED drives which are good for long term data storage. And I have a ton of RED drives all doing various levels of backup, some off site some another computer (proxmox).

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-red-pro-sata-hdd
These prices are much higher than what I got just a year ago , look for deals for cheaper reds.

But the WD RED drives have never let me down (yet) and two of my red drives have like 90,000 hours of spin time (literally 7 years on and running, no issue yet).
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post 10000248905 22 hours ago, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
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Thanks for the info and advice on backups. Will research it more, and with these nas systems I barely understand.

So far I just had 2 seagate desktop drives (7TB?), but really didn't have too much I felt was worth spending money to protect.

Nowadays, when have gotten more into it (5 yrs+) and gotten better gear, I do feel I get some results worth protecting (photography). And if going some places, even if local, you spend a lot of time planning, researching etc so makes sense to protect it and not waste that effort.
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Just get a stick if its for photos n shit

https://a.co/d/08suuMoC

Or if you need all in one place

https://a.co/d/00s5hz2r
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Just get a stick if its fir photos n shit
More prone to degradation, which would make sense so not really for me.
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Sam Altman made that shit expensive as shit
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Originally Posted By MisquePhaggot⏩
Sam Altman made that shit expensive as shit
Yeah, can definately see a change in prices even for small sd/cf express cards. Think some of them switched over to making stuff for these big companies.
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Originally Posted By steffo99⏩
More prone to degradation, which would make sense so not really for me.
Thats any tho

https://condusiv.com/do-ssds-degrade-over-time/

Whatever works for you
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Thats any tho

https://condusiv.com/do-ssds-degrade-over-time/

Whatever works for you
True true, and thank you. Just scared to save/store "valuable" stuff on a stick.
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Originally Posted By steffo99⏩
True true, and thank you. Just scared to save/store "valuable" stuff on a stick.
Eh,its potluck either way ,drives fail

You're welcome
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Just get a stick if its for photos n shit

https://a.co/d/08suuMoC

Or if you need all in one place

https://a.co/d/00s5hz2r
That 32gig thumbdrive will barely hold an afternoon's shoot.

He 100% needs something far more substantial than a shitty jump drive.



He needs a REAL solution, not a shitty thumbdrive. Hell, his DSLR memory cards are likely larger than that




And having lost some data way back in the day, and kicking myself for NOT following good backup strategies, I hope OP takes it seriously, even though "its just pictures". I wish I had those shots from 2006, but I don't.




Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Eh,its potluck either way ,drives fail

You're welcome
Hence the RAID and 3-2-1 method.

80,000 hours my drives have been spinning for without a single hiccup. I expect they may soon start having issues as I approach 10 years being running, which is why I have like 3-4 OTHER red drives I use in my backup scheme.


But thinking some crappy thumbdrive is better than a HDD, is nuts. Especially for longer term storage.
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seagate is DEFINITELY out. the other two really depend on the model both make OK drives...none are perfect. best to have a backup drive to a backup drive (even if it costs double).
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
That 32gig thumbdrive will barely hold an afternoon's shoot.

He 100% needs something far more substantial than a shitty jump drive.



He needs a REAL solution, not a shitty thumbdrive. Hell, his DSLR memory cards are likely larger than that




And having lost some data way back in the day, and kicking myself for NOT following good backup strategies, I hope OP takes it seriously, even though "its just pictures". I wish I had those shots from 2006, but I don't.








Hence the RAID and 3-2-1 method.

80,000 hours my drives have been spinning for without a single hiccup. I expect they may soon start having issues as I approach 10 years being running, which is why I have like 3-4 OTHER red drives I use in my backup scheme.


But thinking some crappy thumbdrive is better than a HDD, is nuts. Especially for longer term storage.
Where did I say it was better??

You just make shit up to fit your narrative

Any drive will fail ,any

I figured the stick may be more convenient as its portable and hes shooting
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Where did I say it was better??
you literally linked him to a 32gb USB thumbdrive....


Have you ever even used a DSLR before?
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
you literally linked him to a 32gb USB thumbdrive....


Have you ever even used a DSLR before?
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩

So you are retarded then....



Figures.



Why are you even trying to give advice on a topic you have ZERO clue about?
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
He needs a REAL solution, not a shitty thumbdrive. Hell, his DSLR memory cards are likely larger than that


And having lost some data way back in the day, and kicking myself for NOT following good backup strategies, I hope OP takes it seriously, even though "its just pictures". I wish I had those shots from 2006, but I don't.


You're very right. I really need to think about the long term thing for sure. Got CFexpressB with 1 TB 2 years ago (prograde digital) when was a "reasonable" 300 bucks or so.

Edit: dang seems it be almost 3x now in price. Insane to think that the memory card is as much as the entry level camera Nikon has - z50ii - with same processor and af system as the flagships.
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Originally Posted By AMOG⏩
seagate is DEFINITELY out. the other two really depend on the model both make OK drives...none are perfect. best to have a backup drive to a backup drive (even if it costs double).
I saw on a forum thread that seagate actually failed more perhaps than the other 2, but still at just 1%.
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For long term storage that you don't need to access everyday, BD disks are better than hard drives or ssds.
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Ok, ordered the toshiba slim 2 tb and will really think about back ups etc. Thanks for all inputs!


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