Everyone bar a sociopath needs emotional support from time to time.

Who doesn't experience; the death of a loved one, a break up after years of loving and building a life with someone, deep insecurities due to childhood trauma (unless you were lucky enough not to have a bad childhood ofc). Everyone needs to get empathy from time to time.

If you don't need any emotional support after the death of a close family member, then you genuinely probably are sociopath.

True.

Have a friend I look up to. Guy is very intelligent, holds dual engineering degrees, tall, athletic, is a typical CHAD in the sense of getting women easy.

But he has told me about how he was abused as a child and how that has traumatized him and has affected his relationships with women. Been through two divorces. Wants to start a family and have kids. He is in his late 30s. You'd think on the outside he has EVERYTHING figured out but **** everyone needs empathy and counseling at times.

Someone told me recently "It's OK to not be OK". Everyone goes through things. Stoicism only goes so far and I have the biggest pokerface.

Disagree...I'm not a sociopath and I felt no need to seek support in the death of family members and after being informed my daughter would have life long disabilities. I come from a different generation and time, however. I was raised to just deal with it.....

My father also made me cut grass with scissors in the mid summer Gerorgia sun when I f***ed up....again different place and time.

I'm skeptical to be honest.

I don't know a single person who wouldn't be phucked up if their mother or father died, and they had a close relationship with them.No offence, and I don't want to turn this into trauma olympics, but I wish that was something I would consider a bad story from childhood.

this is the pinnacle of rotting article

'sometimes we want to be the small spoon'

guy that wrote this is a bish

having said that guys have it wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy tougher than women in life, we actually have real problems that we need to overcome, not some bullchit like you only got 50 likes on your last instagram photo

Would read again

I'm similar to your friend (apart from having ADHD symptoms, and not accomplishing much as a result). My childhood trauma has royally phucked up my relationships, I tend to shut down when genuine feelings start flowing after the initial excitement of a relationship. My ex found it incredibly frustrating - I don't blame her for initiating a divorce, I just wish the timing was better.

These issues aren't easily fixed.

A promising model for resolving the issues can be found (your friend might be interested) in this book (it starts off slow, but I think it's a brilliant read);



The guy had a similar problem, he kept phuckin up his relationships. Finally he went through a program designed by a woman called 'lorraine' which is doing approx 10 different therapies for about 3 months at a time. The plan was to try to heal the trauma from multiple angles, so that the accumulative effect would heal his trauma completely. The standard model from the mainstream is to stick with one form of therapy for years on end, which doesn't tend to work for most people in regards to complete healing.

The unconventional method worked for him, and he is now married with a child.

As homo as this sounds, I can relate to a lot of that **** but will never act on it. I remember I was living with my ex gf at the time and my family member died. I vividly remember going to bed that night wishing she would just hold me (no homo) Felt like I couldn't express myself and remember sneaking off for the rest of the week to be with my own thoughts. Felt like I was completely alone in the world and had to deal with the lose myself. Also remembet not even being able to see my mother because I could not contain my emotions and didn't want her to see me cry.

Basically I dissappeared for two weeks and re-emerged when I could "act like a man". That's how I was taught. My dad has never told me how he "felt" in his life. It's tough.

Luckily I have a childhood buddy who's across the world but we still chit chat about life's real problems.

Careful with that logic; eggs still need sperm to fertilize and women also need men to protect and provide during pregnancy and childrearing. But I do essentially agree that sperm are plentiful, and it's atrade of resources for access to eggs.

That article is crazy



























































A kangaroo would obviously beat up a chimp in a fight

by the cliffs; sounds like it was written by a woman or some one who takes it in the butt.

I guarantee if you show this to a woman and try to discuss this with her she will somehow make herself relate to all points and say she has all the same problems and make everything about her. They do it with ****ing everything.

OP you should find this book and give it a read.....

https://www.amazon.ca/Real-Boys-Resc.../dp/0805061835

.... think you'd find it very interesting.

On a serious note, I swear half the points were about not getting compliments, not getting asked out, women not making a move, and then about ten more about not getting compliments or knowing if they are attractive.


Seriously written by a full blown FA miscer, fuks up the half a dozen valid points in it.

This. The only time I had any of these symptoms of self pity and loathing were when I was drinking heavily.

disagree strongly with pretty much all of them

Believe me, all of you lonely whiny guys, be grateful you have the misc, and the internet, and the ability to socialize online. If this was 1940, youd truly know what loneliness felt like.

Yeah life sucks sometimes, just gotta make the most of what you can. No use in whining, LDARing or crying.

have not read the article yet, or any of the posts except the first one, but i almost raged. reason why i say ALMOST, is because i've been there too... that feeling of 'no implicit value'. but there comes a time in a man's life, when he turns over a new leaf (SRS), and things just start making sense, and you grow, mature, etc. without reading that article, i can already tell that a lot of the things on that list will tend to dissapear with age, and be replaced by positive things such as...

self worth

knows he's a leader

trusts himself

values his time, and has a purpose in life

is content, and comfortable with who he is

accepts his reality, and his mind does not daydream the hours away

etc. etc.

(you get the point)

Emotional support system?

I don't need any emotional tampons, I got better things to do than cry about my chit all day.

But serious (life-altering/affecting) problems I've never faced before?

All of the guys' points have some logic behind them, but there's also nothing anybody can do about them, and there's no point in crying about them. At the end of the day you have to face reality, it doesn't matter what you think/how things are, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, all that matters is what is. Existence is more important than essence. At the end of the day, you have to suck it up. And I would always rather be a guy than some fkn sloot who has absolutely no self worth, has to put up with greasy FAs etc.

Funny enough, the internet is probably the main reason why there are so many young men with underdeveloped social skills..

yeah a lot of the points were just stupid as fuk like the wanting to be the smaller spoon etc which undermined the entire article, but the bit about balding is legit

Yes its a double edge sword, give and take.

but honestly, if not for the internet, the would be many many areas of life where i would be WAY underdeveloped. I taught myself things about my career, lifting, socializing, and more through the web.

Seriously this


Is this really a thread full of grown men crying about not have emotional support? Fuking Christ, what in the hell has this world come to

this whole website is gay as fuark. those articles are written by cucks/feminists/sjws/blm etc. in other words, scum. all you can find there is gibberish. disgusting.

What a complete load of bullchit. You will be ballin your eyes out when your momma hits the dirt, just like the rest of us.

i honestly think the internet has made it much worse for men, guys are rejected 1000s of times more seeing others showcase their lives on social media whilst girls are literally getting constant validation (even the whales) everywhere without doing anything

1. We always have to make the first move

I don't like how the statement is phrased (as if it's a bad thing). You don't always have to make the first move, but it definitely does increase your chance of meeting some girls!There is nothing wrong with making the first move!When you make the first move, it shows you are confident in yourself, whether she likes you or not. And if you get rejected, then congratulations! (srs). Because you KNOW what you're worth, and it's her loss...Key thing here is 'you must know what you're worth'. If you don't, then go find out what you're worth by doing things that you value, and making yourself a priority...

2. How utterly socially alone we are sometimes

Again, this is stated as if it's a BAD thing. I'm gonna straight up summarize passages from one of the GOAT books of all time 'letters to my son'... the key difference between loneliness and solitude. loneliness is being alone in an empty room, and at the same time being aware of the things around you... in loneliness, a feeling/sense of separateness from those things, and yourself is experienced. In loneliness, the word "I" resonates, because it creates the contrast against the 'things around you'...the more aware you become of these things, the smaller you feel... In solitude, you are also alone... but there is one key difference... there is no 'separateness', there is no "I" . You do not become the center of everything... instead, you become 'one with the space around you'... you sit quietly, and in the process you feel bigger... solitude has no words, or time... it's simply a feeling of peace with yourself. Solitude lifts you up, while loneliness pushes you down... note, that both examples involve sitting quietly in a room... but you'll experience EITHER loneliness, or solitude... the choice is yours. Being socially alone sometimes is not always a bad thing...

3. If you’re with kids, people assume you’re a ****phile

I'm starting to notice a trend here. Another statement which is poorly phrased. What if I changed it to this:If you're with kids, people assume you're a ****phile...but that's their problem, not mine. Sucks that they have to live cynical lives, must take them a lot of energy!In other words, if you're gonna live your life worrying about what 'others' assume...then GOOD LUCK TO YOU MY FRIENDS! I'll be the first to admit, I was like this myself...always worried about what others might think about me...but then I realized life is much easier when you stop worrying what others think, and focus on yourself...

4. Men live in a world where you are constantly unwanted, rejected, and outright feared, just for existing

I'm gonna be clear on this: Crystal fcuking clear, because I've been here before (srs). People will reject you. It's gonna happen. And it could potentially fcuk you up in the long term if you're sensitive...But the only advice I have here is, do not reject YOURSELF...in fact, do the opposite. Treat yourself better! Get help if you need to...nothing wrong in seeing a good therapist. It CAN help. What I don't like about the statement in this one, is that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. If your 'life script' readsall i know is rejection, then that script will play out no matter what you do. But if you change that life script, then you can make real changes where it matters, internal changes in how you think and behave (reference: 6 pillars of self esteem... do the sentence completion exercises)

5. Women constantly attack us, and we’re not allowed to complain

either you're meeting/attracting the wrong women (which is a high probability). or you don't realize that you have the painfully obvious right not to take abuse. on a date? just get up and leave. in a relationship. get out of it. you have the right to have zero tolerance for when girls act abusive (verbally or physically). YES, you are allowed to complain. who the fcuk said your'e not? let me guess, women right? make your own rules.



I haven't read the rest of them yet, but this is taking a lot longer than i thought. I'll go through them later, but if it's any guess, then i know they will follow the same pattern as above.

Honestly, compared to the chit many of the women i've met in my life have to go through regularly, this is nothing.

The anti-woman crowd on here always crying about how they are so lucky and men are the true victims are phucking retards (not including OP as his article did have some valid points), but too many people on here have probably asked out a girl who is out of their league, got rejected, then come on here and become a strong misogynist because "all women are sloots".

A Bernie support definitely wrote that

Still glad I'm a man and I'm not a slave to my emotions.