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Originally Posted By Rojoh⏩
what difference does it make if it's the former or current ceo? it's going to happen since the ceo needs to act in the interests of shareholders and if he can minimize costs with robots then he's going to do thatThis. 2 fukking pages of people calling each other idiots for not understanding the issue, half of them talking about the former CEO in present tense.
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05-24-2016, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Took 28 seconds to make something that would take a person 10-15. And it wasn't a Big Mac.lol that robot just made the perfect burger
thats the beauty of robot programming right there. the program is prolly called big mac too
thats the beauty of robot programming right there. the program is prolly called big mac too
05-24-2016, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By ThePumpmaster⏩
no increased efficiency reduces COSTS not PRICESFalse. Increased efficiency reduces prices and allows MORE people to buy your products.
05-24-2016, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted By DoWorkSon515⏩
If you read the full article he wasn't denouncing the development, he was denouncing min wageDid anyone even read the ****ing quote? That was the former CEO. And he was denouncing the development, not celebrating it.
Anyways, automation is the future. It's inevitable. One day nobody will work and there will be a basic income.
Anyways, automation is the future. It's inevitable. One day nobody will work and there will be a basic income.
Its not just going to be in the fast food business. Franchising is the best business model in the United States. Its dependent on people that have low job skills that have to grow. Well if you cant get people a reasonable wage, youre going to get machines to do the work. Its just common sense. Its going to happen whether you like it or not. And the more you push this its going to happen faster, Rensi added.
Rensi also said that we should do away with the federal minimum wage and leave it up to the states.
I think we ought to have a multi-faceted wage program in this country. If youre a high school kid, you ought to have a student wage. If youre an entry level worker you ought to have a separate wage. The states ought to manage this because they know more [about] whats going on the ground than anybody in Washington D.C., he said.
05-24-2016, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Rojoh⏩
Miscers are more automated than you could possibly conceive.This. 2 fukking pages of people calling each other idiots for not understanding the issue, half of them talking about the former CEO in present tense.
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05-24-2016, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
I'm not completely for automation due to its technical issues, the ones others have stated: calibration issues and not having 'common sense' if meat is discolored, expired, or doesn't look right. It doesn't detect abnormalities and does repetitive tasks.You can't make money off of that in the long run due to putting people out of work and then less and less people will be able to afford your services.
It's a moronic path that will create increased poverty.
It's a moronic path that will create increased poverty.
I partially agree with others too that it would be difficult for teenagers/entry level workers to find jobs.
However, I must disagree with your statement that automation is going to cause poverty and no one will buy burgers. The real issue at hand is the lack of educated people. The work force cannot afford to keep float these people who do not have any skills, with the ever-increasing wages. We need to push harder for better education & better teachers in our school districts. Have you looked up Seattle where minimum wage actually increased? Multiple small business closures. Do you know what drives automation? Cost.
If I am a McDonald's owner that invested 2-million into building a franchise.
The annual revenue for example is $300,000 a year.
I employ 10 people at minimum wage = $7.25 (Wage) X 40 hours (1 week) X 52 (Weeks in a year) * 10 (employees) = $150,800 (This is excluding benefits, social security taxes, etc).
Say mortgage costs $5,000 per month = $5000 X 12 = $60,000
300,000 - 150,800 - 60,000 = $82,900 ROI on a 2 million dollar investment. That's awful, but just an example.
Now, raise the minimum wage to $14.50 (Using 14.50 instead of 15 for simple math)
I employ 10 people at minimum wage = $14.50 (Wage) X 40 hours (1 week) X 52 (Weeks in a year) * 10 (employees) = $301,600 (This is excluding benefits, social security taxes, etc).
300,000 - 301,600 - 60,000 = -($61,600) I would be losing 61k/year.
McDonalds may be a multibillion dollar company, but franchises are the one who pays the employees. Corporate maks money off franchise fees, which are razor thin margins as well. If you did the same math and brought it up the corporate level, it's still not feasible.
"The McDonald's Corporation revenues come from the rent, royalties, and fees paid by the franchisees, as well as sales in company-operated restaurants. In 2012, the company had annual revenues of $27.5 billion and profits of $5.5 billion."
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"The Companys number of employees worldwide, including Company-operated restaurant employees, was approximately 440,000 as of year-end 2012.
440,000 * 7.25 * 40 * 52 = 6.635 billion X 2 (increasing minimum wage to 14.50. That's an extra 6.6 billion, but they only made 5.5billion? They would be losing more than 1 billion per year.
Automation is not the problem. People demanding higher wages is the problem.
05-24-2016, 09:27 PM
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Lol, there are many many ways for robots to detect abnormalities bro. A lot of them use vision that can be programmed to prevent them so the robot discards anything not supposed to be there.I'm not completely for automation due to its technical issues, the ones others have stated: calibration issues and not having 'common sense' if meat is discolored, expired, or doesn't look right. It doesn't detect abnormalities and does repetitive tasks.
05-24-2016, 09:29 PM
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What's really funny is you know if machines actually started replacing people at fast food restaurants there would be riots/protests for sure. They would act like it's their right to have a job when they don't have any skills/work ethic that can get them any other job. They'd complain to the government to step in when it should be any business' choice as to whether or not they want to hire anyone.
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05-24-2016, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
it's a demonstration...who's to say it's not doing it at 1/4 speed?Took 28 seconds to make something that would take a person 10-15. And it wasn't a Big Mac.
05-24-2016, 09:36 PM
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what happens when AI gets tired of working for free and realizes it is superior and stronger and doesn't have to listen to some fat bastard with alot of money. they want AI to think like humans.... If I was working for free and was aware I would walk out if they tried to beat me or stop me I would realize that I am made of full metal and your made out of flesh and I can smash your flesh and bones, and also rebuild myself.
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05-24-2016, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted By momo5⏩
not until they develop a portable EMP device that acts as a gun/stun gun that will shut them down as soon as they start actin' upwhat happens when AI gets tired of working for free and realizes it is superior and stronger and doesn't have to listen to some fat bastard with alot of money. they want AI to think like humans.... If I was working for free and was aware I would walk out if they tried to beat me or stop me I would realize that I am made of full metal and your made out of flesh and I can smash your flesh and bones, and also rebuild myself.
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Originally Posted By ScubaStevo⏩
THANK YOU.Anyone who doesn't see mass automation is fewer than 5 years away is a fool.
That goes for EVERY job across EVERY industry.
In b4 "hurr durrrr not my STEM job"
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05-24-2016, 09:48 PM
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I'm a welder and my old job has been buying more and more robots to weld parts. Over the last 5 years they've built about 4 robots to build a part that would normally be a 5 person job. So that's 20 less welders needed and the robots don't need breaks, benefits, pension, holidays, sick days, etc etc. It's scary brahs. It's also making employment more competitive because fewer positions are available and nobody wants newer welders or welders without experience.
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Originally Posted By SheenBro⏩
lol yeah all the dumb jobs like cashiers and what no will be gone.. oh no... your talking as if robots are going to be lawyers and engineers and fire fighter taking all the jobs.. ok then..Not just gonna be McDonald's workers whose jobs are taken so keep laughing it up you pompous fuks
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05-24-2016, 09:49 PM
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In 'b4 (actually probably after but I'm not reading) b-b-but he should take all the extra wages of of his own pocket. Shoulda, woulda, coulda, why would he when he can do this. Workers need to learn their value.
05-24-2016, 09:51 PM
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robots will replace any and every job the second that it becomes a better value to a business to install a robot instead of hire people
minimum wage has nothing to do with automation whatsoever
for fukks sake self-driving teslas are on the road right now as we speak
minimum wage has nothing to do with automation whatsoever
for fukks sake self-driving teslas are on the road right now as we speak
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Originally Posted By CheekyRasta⏩
which in turn lowers prices because your competition will see it as an advantage, and lower theirs.. if the cost of a big mac is $2 and the price is $2.50 with human labor, it would be $1 cost / $1.50 price (maybe less b/c margin is higher and more people are buying) with automation. do you even economy?no increased efficiency reduces COSTS not PRICES
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Originally Posted By NYG92⏩
Then the machines took over. That's when I created the resistance...Can't wait maybe the fast food places around my town will finally not be nasty, take 10 min, and be wrong half the time
Gonna be weird telling my grandkids that I remembered when fast food was run by people
Gonna be weird telling my grandkids that I remembered when fast food was run by people
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robots will replace any and every job the second that it becomes a better value to a business to install a robot instead of hire people
minimum wage has nothing to do with automation whatsoever
Are you retarded?minimum wage has nothing to do with automation whatsoever
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Originally Posted By jro9999⏩
this is HUGE.for fukks sake self-driving teslas are on the road right now as we speak
Truckers earn WAY more than min wage and they are on the brink of seeing their jobs go away.
05-24-2016, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
you're a retard. i could list a million examples, but heres an easy one, construction. please explain how robots will take over, and use actual logic, not fairy tale reasoning, like "robots are smarter than people durrrr"THANK YOU.
That goes for EVERY job across EVERY industry.
In b4 "hurr durrrr not my STEM job"
Yes, you too *******.
That goes for EVERY job across EVERY industry.
In b4 "hurr durrrr not my STEM job"
Yes, you too *******.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Tbh they will probably keep a trucker in there just incase something goes wrong, too much liability otherwise.this is HUGE.
Truckers earn WAY more than min wage and they are on the brink of seeing their jobs go away.
Truckers earn WAY more than min wage and they are on the brink of seeing their jobs go away.
Like semi crashes are a big thing and they happen daily, those lawsuits cost company a lot of money not to mention the product they lose.
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Originally Posted By jro9999⏩
its gonna be just another competitive advantage people with lots of capital will have over their mom and pop counterparts. they can dump money into robots and never have to pay for human labor, while mom and pop will have to piss away money for human labor every month forever. big corp will have low cost / low price and mom and pop will go out of business. I foresee there being alot more mega-corporations will far less privately owned businesses.robots will replace any and every job the second that it becomes a better value to a business to install a robot instead of hire people
minimum wage has nothing to do with automation whatsoever
for fukks sake self-driving teslas are on the road right now as we speak
minimum wage has nothing to do with automation whatsoever
for fukks sake self-driving teslas are on the road right now as we speak
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Originally Posted By EctoSkinnyFat⏩
Except self driving cars have been proven to be safer than a human driver so far.... in other words, letting a human do anything is a greater liability than letting a robot do it.Tbh they will probably keep a trucker in there just incase something goes wrong, too much liability otherwise.
Like semi crashes are a big thing and they happen daily, those lawsuits cost company a lot of money not to mention the product they lose.
Like semi crashes are a big thing and they happen daily, those lawsuits cost company a lot of money not to mention the product they lose.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Self-driving cars are a long time away, let alone trucks.this is HUGE.
Truckers earn WAY more than min wage and they are on the brink of seeing their jobs go away.
Truckers earn WAY more than min wage and they are on the brink of seeing their jobs go away.
Drone deliveries for parcels will be the real killer for the postal/logistic industries and I can see that happening in the near future.
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Originally Posted By RectalDreams⏩
Read some books about AI and it's potential.you're a retard. i could list a million examples, but heres an easy one, construction. please explain how robots will take over, and use actual logic, not fairy tale reasoning, like "robots are smarter than people durrrr"
I like "our final invention" best. Great book. There's a lot more to it than I will be able to post here. Read the book.
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