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post 1444022081 05-24-2016, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted By NYG92
Can't wait maybe the fast food places around my town will finally not be nasty, take 10 min, and be wrong half the time

Gonna be weird telling my grandkids that I remembered when fast food was run by people
This. Employees are generally slow and often mess up your orders. $15/hr for that kind of job is pretty ridiculous. I think in the last 10 years I've only encountered about 5 workers who actually did a good job at serving me. I realize it is a chit tier job but at least put a little effort in it.
post 1444022131 05-24-2016, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah
This is meaningless when there is an incentive to have kids or a large welfare state.
One kid per 30k earned in the household, overproduce and we feed the extras to the Syrians.
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post 1444022781 05-24-2016, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted By BieberFeverBrah
And therein lies the fundamental flaw of capitalism. Efficiency at all costs, even when it destroys us from the inside out.
Yep. Capitalism will not survive technology.
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post 1444022971 05-24-2016, 10:54 PM
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Since this is a McDonalds thread technically, Here is my trip 20 mins ago:

1. In drive thru, Dude who can barely speak english takes my order.
2. I order 2 McChickens(2 Mcchickens for $2.50) and a large fries.
3. Repeats order, He said 2 McChickens and an apple pie.
4. Correct him, Say i want fries not pie.
5. Says my total and seems off. Looked at the menu after i drove off and saw McChickens are $1.69 each. When the deal is 2 for $2.50
6. I get to window, I say that i wanted the 2 for $2.50 McChickens deal.
7. Says "Oh, ok"
8. Comes back and says your total is $8.80. Im like "Wut, The fuking deal is 2 for $2.50".
9. He says "OH OHHHHH YOU WANT SPECIAL"
10. Me: "...."



Yeah, Lets get some ****ing self kiosks going ASAP
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post 1444023101 05-24-2016, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted By FacetheMusic
McDonald's won't be the same without them screwing up your order.
lmao so true

the easier a job is, the more people seem to **** it up
post 1444023491 05-24-2016, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted By WSG1
Since this is a McDonalds thread technically, Here is my trip 20 mins ago:

1. In drive thru, Dude who can barely speak english takes my order.
2. I order 2 McChickens(2 Mcchickens for $2.50) and a large fries.
3. Repeats order, He said 2 McChickens and an apple pie.
4. Correct him, Say i want fries not pie.
5. Says my total and seems off. Looked at the menu after i drove off and saw McChickens are $1.69 each. When the deal is 2 for $2.50
6. I get to window, I say that i wanted the 2 for $2.50 McChickens deal.
7. Says "Oh, ok"
8. Comes back and says your total is $8.80. Im like "Wut, The fuking deal is 2 for $2.50".
9. He says "OH OHHHHH YOU WANT SPECIAL"
10. Me: "...."



Yeah, Lets get some ****ing self kiosks going ASAP
Rather go to Popeyes or Chic Fil A for chicken sammiches. Haven't been to McD in a while. If I am feeling in the mood for a burger I'll hit up Wendys or Fat Burger.
post 1444023641 05-24-2016, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Rather go to Popeyes or Chic Fil A for chicken sammiches. Haven't been to McD in a while. If I am feeling in the mood for a burger I'll hit up Wendys or Fat Burger.
The Chic Fil A is right a Whataburger by my house.


It's the best of problems.
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post 1444023771 05-24-2016, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted By headinahole
The Chic Fil A is right a Whataburger by my house.


It's the best of problems.
Why not both? Love having all these food options nearby but sucks in summer time when you can't winter bulk out anymore.
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post 1444023891 05-24-2016, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Why not both? Love having all these food options nearby but sucks in summer time when you can't winter bulk out anymore.
Like I said... best of problems lol.


Chic's shakes are on point, Whataburger has this new buffalo chicken sammich. So damn good.
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post 1444023981 05-24-2016, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted By mcdojo
Mcdonalds CEO drops nothing but the pure unadulterated truth


“I was at the National Restaurant Show yesterday and if you look at the robotic devices that are coming into the restaurant industry --it’s cheaper to buy a $35,000 robotic arm than it is to hire an employee who’s inefficient making $15 an hour bagging French fries-- it’s nonsense and it’s very destructive and it’s inflationary and it’s going to cause a job loss across this country like you’re not going to believe,” said former McDonald’s (MCD) USA CEO Ed Rensi

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/...-per-hour.html
this would have happened even if the minimum wage wasnt 15 an hour

the machine would have been cheaper to design, materials cheaper to acquire, machine cheaper to make, manufacturers would have realized that labor is still cheap so they charge less for the automation

even if minimum wage 7 an hour the machine would just cost 20k-25k and owners would still buy it cause the machine would last a decade and pay it self out after 2 years

vs

15 minimum wage and the machine costing 35k and paying it self off after 1 year

raising the minimum wage is just expediting the process, but this would have happened eventually anyways. but its cause technology is evolving. not cause labor is getting more expensive, but technology is betting better and cheaper

they cant just suddenly lower minimum wage now to what it was 5-10 years ago. how are these people supposed to pay their rent? buy food?
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post 1444024401 05-24-2016, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted By headinahole
Like I said... best of problems lol.


Chic's shakes are on point, Whataburger has this new buffalo chicken sammich. So damn good.
Yeah there is an area nearby with tons of fast food chains grouped together. A new dispensary open up on the same block too. Lmao bet they see increase in sales real quick. What a time to be alive. Can walk in a store and buy chronic like you are buying a bag of chips.
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If a fast food company wanted to raise their minimum wage to 15 an hour then that's okay but if you want to force a company to do it then what do you expect ? they're either going to go out of business or adapt by hiring robots.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
He is a moron.

A moron is a person who appears smart but lacks insight and causes disaster in the long run.

If automaton replaces low wage employees, then who will buy his burgers?

People like him will bankrupt a whole segment of the population, that will increase the draw on welfare, that will drain more money from the middle class, and cause a greater loss of funds, and destroy our civilization more than it is. The cost is far greater than giving workers a raise.

People like this aren't "economical" or capitalists, they're morons.
He and people like him are already working for kicks since they have more then enough funds to cover their life expenses for the rest of their days. What does it really matter if people are unemployed to him outside of PR.
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No pleb who flips burgers should get $12 an hours much less 15. Get a real job
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Originally Posted By Bullneckbruh
Where are high school kids going to work now?
idk buddy, but if you still work at McDonald's after high school, you truly fukked up.


I used to work at McDonald's from 2011 to 2013. good pay at the time but chit co-workers (4 teenage mothers I believe) and chit customers (they can lose their cool quite easily). Gave me a dead-ass reminder then and there to never end up like them.
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guess it's time for people to develop actual skills
post 1444046901 05-25-2016, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted By SheenBro
Not just gonna be McDonald's workers whose jobs are taken so keep laughing it up you pompous fuks
Unless your the guy who makes the robotic arms

ayyy lmao
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Originally Posted By ScubaStevo
Anyone who doesn't see mass automation is fewer than 5 years away is a fool.
It will take much longer than 5 years.
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Originally Posted By ScubaStevo
Anyone who doesn't see mass automation is fewer than 5 years away is a fool.
Automation doesn't mean the end game for humanity. Yes, a certain percentage( and in the case of McDonald's a welcomed percentage) will lose their jobs and have to focus on other ventures, but you'll still need maintenance, and a small percentage of manual( read:human) labor for the mistakes and customer to customer transactions.

Edit: also what the guy above me said. To streamline this stuff in I'd guess more around 15-25 years.
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**** mcdonalds
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Rustles my jimmies when people cheer on automation, sayin chit like "they can never automate my job". That might be true (it isn't but let's pretend that you're not an idiot) but by automating some % of sectors it will change the employment landscape and put pressure on other areas. Alternatively, large-scale automation may lead to a social underclass whose welfare you'll need to fund.

At some point society has to say "there is a social benefit to employment, and companies who profit from our society need to improve it via direct employment where appropriate".
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
whats amusing is eventually no one will be able to buy the goods being produced except a select few
What's amusing is you're completely wrong. It's the opposite. 50 years ago only the wealthy had AC's. Only the wealthy had color tv's. Today a billionaire and a middle class person uses the same damn iphone. That's the power of free markets and capitalism that idiots like Bernie Sanders like to rail against. Wealth isn't a zero sum game. It is not a fixed pie like hippie liberals believe. The pie grows. The poor in america have a better lifestyle than the poor in other countries. Automation will lead to things getting cheaper as long as competition exists. People will be free from doing menial tasks and can pursue other things.
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Originally Posted By daxtrader
What's amusing is you're completely wrong. It's the opposite. 50 years ago only the wealthy had AC's. Only the wealthy had color tv's. Today a billionaire and a middle class person uses the same damn iphone. That's the power of free markets and capitalism that idiots like Bernie Sanders like to rail against. Wealth isn't a zero sum game. It is not a fixed pie like hippie liberals believe. The pie grows. The poor in america have a better lifestyle than the poor in other countries. Automation will lead to things getting cheaper as long as competition exists. People will be free from doing menial tasks and can pursue other things.
The poverty person can now afford the CEO's iPhone, except unlike 50 years ago they now can't afford to rent or buy a house, have healthcare, get their cavity filled, etc. The poverty person, unlike 50 years ago, now needs a household with two fulltime incomes and needs to take on a lifetime mortgage just to get on the "property ladder". The US has $12T in household debt. The goods are simply placating the poor.
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Looks like Bishamon's fukked then.
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Once they put a human-machine barrier with all jobs, services, support channels, government etc between the human elite and the human middle class/poor you wont be able to argue or debate it will be the machines programmed way and thats that.
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Adapt or die. Learn how to program/fix robots and you'll be fine, other wise you are ****ed. No different to people in agriculture losing jobs to advancements in the industrial revolution.

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Originally Posted By nn586
feels good to beinthe automation industry

yup, i automate people's soon to be ex jobs
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Robots dont ask for tips either, its a win-win for everyone.
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