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Originally Posted By Kev1972
Great gator massacre of 2016. Its like harambe x1000!

All the friendly gators paying the price for one bad apple!
And so should be. Animals should learn that they can not attack people. Grizzly bears do understand it. If one kill man all ran away for miles.
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Originally Posted By jason_bh
Feel bad for the parents. Obviously they were unaware of the dangers. Is it possible that they could have checked in late and didn't really notice the signs because it was dark?

Lived in FL my whole life and seen many gators. For the most part they will not bother you. But there are some rules to follow. The big one being that you don't hang out in waterways in the evening time.

I can imagine for someone out of state who's never seen a gator in the wild, not knowing how common they are around here. Therefore letting your little one wonder onto the shoreline while you are close by doesn't seem like a bad idea. Unfortunately this family has learned the hard way.

I would add too that it being Disney and all, tourists just assume that everything is 'safe'. Surely Disney wouldn't put a beachfront on a waterway with chairs if it weren't safe, right?
They weren't even just walking a long the shore they were in foot deep water almost 90 minutes after sunset.
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Originally Posted By Frank
Its not common knowledge. I went there this Feb and I learned about the gators while I was there, not before.
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everything makes sense now. If you asked 99/100 people in the US what animal could eat them if they visited Florida and you would get Alligator or snake as an answer (both of which would be valid along a body of water in this scenario)

Also you're pretty smart for visiting another country and not even doing the most basic research into what you're getting yourself into. I'll wager every single travel info site in the world will reference gators in Florida.
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Originally Posted By Procta
No molesting of alligators needs to be on a sign? Fuking Florida.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
They weren't even just walking a long the shore they were in foot deep water almost 90 minutes after sunset.
The parents obviously weren't aware or underestimated the danger, and paid for it with the life of their child. I think they can be spared judgement from strangers on the internet.
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Another case of dumb people who should not be parents.

I hope an alligator drags both the mother and the father so their dumb asses don't reproduce anymore.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
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everything makes sense now. If you asked 99/100 people in the US what animal could eat them if they visited Florida and you would get Alligator or snake as an answer (both of which would be valid along a body of water in this scenario)
And there may be things that are common sense to me that you would have no clue about, its a big world out there.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Yes, and there were signs, and gators in water in Florida is common knowledge. Do they think they sweep the lake with gator nets every day and relocate them all?

I just checked the map the lagoon is MASSIVE you would have to be a complete idiot to think there weren't gators in the water.
Listen you Indiana little f*ck. I actually live down here and it is not common knowledge as much as you think from out of towners

Come down off your high horse for a second. Cause I'm telling you right now from someone with experience on the matter you are absolutely 100% incorrect throwing around the common knowledge line in every post you make.

Stick to Indiana and shut the f*ck up and let the grown ups who know what they're talking about speak in here


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Originally Posted By Procta
There are no swimming and do not feed the gators sings around that body of water.....do not know the placement of the sings near the incident



you do if you are anywhere near water in FL
exactly. then again, people from florida or grew up and lived in florida, we know this. we know gators are everywhere. they get in any body of water in florida. maybe im a minority in this but if im going somewhere ive never been in my life, i try to learn as much as i can about the place and its surroundings and when you see signs telling you not to do something specific, it's for reason. for that 1% chance something like this could happen. it's a damn shame.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Canada

everything makes sense now. If you asked 99/100 people in the US what animal could eat them if they visited Florida and you would get Alligator or snake as an answer (both of which would be valid along a body of water in this scenario)

Also you're pretty smart for visiting another country and not even doing the most basic research into what you're getting yourself into. I'll wager every single travel info site in the world will reference gators in Florida.
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Gators know for the most part not to bother with a adult humans but youre not gonna train all gators to just pass up an easy meal that is a toddler. Gators like small mammals

Sad for the parents because they were just oblivious to the real danger of Florida waters. I woundnt call Disney resort water "Gator infested" its just not strictly controlled and they do sneak in.
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Originally Posted By Frank
The parents obviously weren't aware or underestimated the danger, and paid for it with the life of their child. I think they can be spared judgement from strangers on the internet.
Right and that's their fault.

Your NUMBER ONE duty as a parent is the security of your offspring your life is less valuable than theirs. These parents failed their most basic natural duty.
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would never let my kid go in the water like that. Would be holding them. Now the ocean is different...must be able to see feet

edit: or they would have been @ my feet so if that gator came up I would have fuked it up bad with my kok
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
They weren't even just walking a long the shore they were in foot deep water almost 90 minutes after sunset.
I get that. Again, these are tourists who are obviously not aware of how common gators are. I know better of course, but I have lived here my whole life.

I am willing to give them a pass. Like I said in my previous post, there are other variables that could have come into play here.

I am a parent of three boys. I am the most cautious person there is when it comes to them and water. So for me to allow my kids to play in water at 2, they would have been in my arms. But I could see where the father could have got caught up in the 'magic' of being at Disney and allowing Jr to splash in the water just before bed. Not saying that I would allow that, but I have seen many parents do a lot of stupid things around water. Water seems to make rational people stupid at times.
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Originally Posted By jayhow92
No molesting of alligators needs to be on a sign? Fuking Florida.
depends on the do text. Molest isn't always used sexually
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
Like I said you stupid mother ****er

Many of these places want to keep people from swimming in their nice display lakes and it has nothing to do with gators


I dont know the specifics of the signs but if all it said was no swimming that's a pretty piss poor sign plain and simple
Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
Listen you Indiana little f*ck. I actually live down here and it is not common knowledge as much as you think from out of towners

Come down off your high horse for a second. Cause I'm telling you right now from someone with experience on the matter you are absolutely 100% incorrect throwing around the common knowledge line in every post you make.

Stick to Indiana and shut the f*ck up and let the grown ups who know what they're talking about speak in here


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Originally Posted By aranadiscoteca
Can a python really eat a human?

Shiet.
small humans yes our shoulders are too wide as adults through except for the really rare super large snakes they'll find dead bodies that have been constricted and killed and see teeth marks along the shoulders where the snake tried to get the victims shoulders past its mouth but couldn't and eventually gave up. Snakes eat their victims from the head first generally.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Right and that's their fault.

Your NUMBER ONE duty as a parent is the security of your offspring your life is less valuable than theirs. These parents failed their most basic natural duty.
right. Its ok to show a little compassion as a fellow parent though.
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Natural selection. There are some stupid people breeding making stupid kids who grow up and mate. It was only a matter of time.
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Originally Posted By aranadiscoteca
Can a python really eat a human?

Shiet.
in florida, there are pythons up to 16-18 ft. long. far big enough to swallow a child. possibility of swallowing a small adult as well. the largest animal found in a python in florida was a 74 lb. whitetail deer.
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Originally Posted By jason_bh
I get that. Again, these are tourists who are obviously not aware of how common gators are. I know better of course, but I have lived here my whole life.

I am willing to give them a pass. Like I said in my previous post, there are other variables that could have come into play here.

I am a parent of three boys. I am the most cautious person there is when it comes to them and water. So for me to allow my kids to play in water at 2, they would have been in my arms. But I could see where the father could have got caught up in the 'magic' of being at Disney and allowing Jr to splash in the water just before bed. Not saying that I would allow that, but I have seen many parents do a lot of stupid things around water. Water seems to make rational people stupid at times.
I agree tragic accident but definitely an accident that could have been avoided.
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Originally Posted By Thebunz
Natural selection. There are some stupid people breedingmaking stupid kidswho grow up and mate. It was only a matter of time.
the kid was ****ing 2 years old. cmon man. you sound like you're the offspring of what you just said right now. calm down pupper.
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Originally Posted By Frank
right. Its ok to show a little compassion as a fellow parent though.
Sure, it's tragic and this story hopefully will be a warning to all other visiting families since I'm sure it's international news at this point. I don't know how I would react emotionally if the same thing happened to my child.
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Spent 8 summers in Florida, been to Disney multiple times. How in the absolute fuk do you not understand that alligators are fukking everywhere in that state? I knew that chit when I was 5 years old.
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Originally Posted By Thebunz
Natural selection. There are some stupid people breeding making stupid kids who grow up and mate. It was only a matter of time.
It's a little kid. What does a 2 year old know about alligators?

It's the dumb, retarded parents who are at fault. They should be sued for negligence or just lined up and executed via firing squad. Nothing makes me more angry than absolutely retarded parents whose actions ended up with their 2-year old dead in a horrible way. Eaten alive and drowned by an alligator. Absolutely reprehensible.
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So, that's what happened? The parents really did let the kid go out at night and play in the waters? Only caught the beginning of this thread and went to bed.
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Originally Posted By harmsxwhey
Spent 8 summers in Florida, been to Disney multiple times. How in the absolute fuk do you not understand that alligators are fukking everywhere in that state? I knew that chit when I was 5 years old.
VacationersfromNebraskastaying at a Disney hotel. False assumption that Disney has already thought about your safety and therefore you are safe.

I go to Disney/Universal often (once per year at least). I see many clueless people doing stupid things.
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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY
So, that's what happened? The parents really did let the kid go out at night and play in the waters? Only caught the beginning of this thread and went to bed.
this, with a little bit of the below mixed in. Along with miscers shaking their heads and giving parenting advice.
Originally Posted By jason_bh
VacationersfromNebraskastaying at a Disney hotel. False assumption that Disney has already thought about your safety and therefore you are safe.

I go to Disney/Universal often (once per year at least). I see many clueless people doing stupid things.
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