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Originally Posted By jaimeruiz99⏩
Well, they'd be relieved, on account of the fact that they were able to save up enough to make sure that their children are going to be well provided for. And no, this isn't a hypothetical to me because I've seen it happen in a clinical setting.

The one thing most people worry about at that age, from what I've seen, is how their children will be once they are gone.
My parents raised me in French Polynesia as a baby with the local villagers.

You don't have to have the standard white kid upbringing in order to feel like you succeeded with raising a kid.
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Spent a week in San Diego in early June, a week in LA in late June/Early July, going to Orlando for a week next week then 2 weeks in Cambodia in September. Been noticing that traveling makes me a better, confident and more motivated person overall.

Going to make travel a priority in my life and going to continue to simplify the rest of my life so that I'll have the funds to do so.
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
My parents raised me in French Polynesia as a baby with the local villagers.

You don't have to have the standard white kid upbringing in order to feel like you succeeded with raising a kid.
You don't need to tell me.

Like I said, I ain't even white.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
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Not to dig up old wounds, but it is hard to take any of your life advice to heart on account of your having admitted that you were homeless at one point. I mean, that sort of proves the ideas I've been driving ITT.

Beyond that point, again, I never thought to ask: if finding a job in the US is so easy, particularly in the oil industry, why couldn't you be bothered to get a job working at an oil rig and rent a cheap loft with the money that you could've made by doing so?
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Honestly if you wanna travel go work in the yacht industry. Good pay, free food, free accomodations and you get to see the world.
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Originally Posted By carnif3x⏩
Flights alone would have cost 2k, I call BS. Don't get me wrong travelling is awesome! But budget travellers always under quote the true cost of their expenditures, they always hide the fact they have some assistance from mummy and daddy or stay free with family or friends.
lol I only meant flights. $1500 US for RTW flights is cheap. No way I could actually holiday in those places and those flights for those places. US guys should even have less trouble as airlines miles get thrown at them from every angle. Should be able to fly for free most of the time.

One thing I have noticed in day to day life is that people from third world countries or have parents who have immigrated from third world countries really strive towards building a stable life, career and wealth, they also regard safety highly coming from places that can be dangerous.

A lot of people from well off countries hit the self-actualization part of Maslows hierarchy of needs and search for adventure, embrace risk over stability and are safe in the knowledge that no one in a first world country is ever going to starve to death.
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Originally Posted By jaimeruiz99⏩
Not to dig up old wounds, but it is hard to take any of your life advice to heart on account of your having admitted that you were homeless at one point. I mean, that sort of proves the ideas I've been driving ITT.

Beyond that point, again, I never thought to ask: if finding a job in the US is so easy, particularly in the oil industry, why couldn't you be bothered to get a job working at an oil rig and rent a cheap loft with the money that you could've made by doing so?
I am pretty sure he chose to live in a tent. I am considering the same thing in the future cycling across Europe and living in a tent.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
You didn't cross a line. I chose that situation.


I'm sorry, but anyone who would willingly choose homelessness has some sort of mental illness. As a species one of our main biological urges and needs is to SURVIVE. Homelessness does not increase the chances of survival.
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Originally Posted By Bar182⏩
One thing I have noticed in day to day life is that people from third world countries or have parents who have immigrated from third world countries really strive towards building a stable life, career and wealth, they also regard safety highly coming from places that can be dangerous.

A lot of people from well off countries hit the self-actualization part of Maslows hierarchy of needs and search for adventure, embrace risk over stability and are safe in the knowledge that no one in a first world country is ever going to starve to death.
My point exactly. Thank you for bringing this up.

And people are calling me a 'Western brat' ffs. It's the first-worlders who live in somewhat safe and stable environments who have never actually experienced hardship that are most complacent about the comforts offered by their place of living.

Just look at the person my countrymen elected: his entire platform has been devoted to the singular notion of eliminating crime through the use of extreme and uncompromising force.
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Yeah but then I'd be broke, lol
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Originally Posted By Bar182⏩
I am pretty sure he chose to live in a tent. I am considering the same thing in the future cycling across Europe and living in a tent.
Living in a tent while travelling is fine, sure. But let me ask though: do YOU live in a tent when you aren't travelling? I am assuming that you are also from the US.

I mean, let us take his oil rig employment suggestion as an example: the average oil rig worker earns more than sixty thousand dollars a year. A motel room is, on average, fifty bucks a month. That adds up to around 20 grand a year, leaving you with around 40 grand to spend on whatever. Subtract ten for groceries and you have 30 grand for travelling.

Given this, why in the hell would you choose to live in a tent whilst living in the US?

I mean, sorry for asking, but given the advice he's been spewing in this thread, he had absolutely no reason to be 'homeless' to begin with.

Come to think of it, may I ask: what do you do for a living?
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Originally Posted By jaimeruiz99⏩
Living in a tent while travelling is fine, sure. But let me ask though: do YOU live in a tent when you aren't travelling? I am assuming that you are also from the US.

I mean, let us take his oil rig employment suggestion as an example: the average oil rig worker earns more than sixty thousand dollars a year. A motel room is, on average, fifty bucks a month. That adds up to around 20 grand a year, leaving you with around 40 grand to spend on whatever. Subtract ten for groceries and you have 30 grand for travelling.

Given this, why in the hell would you choose to live in a tent whilst living in the US?

I mean, sorry for asking, but given the advice he's been spewing in this thread, he had absolutely no reason to be 'homeless' to begin with.
Repping when off recharge. You are the only rational voice I've heard in this whole debate. And don't get me wrong, I have nothing against traveling and I think it can lead to amazing experiences, but the people who are glamorizing this life where their whole life revolves around traveling no matter the expense or risks are seriously delusional. Then they take it a step too far and looking down on us "peons" who have a realistic outlook on life.
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Originally Posted By jaimeruiz99⏩
Not to dig up old wounds, but it is hard to take any of your life advice to heart on account of your having admitted that you were homeless at one point. I mean, that sort of proves the ideas I've been driving ITT.

Beyond that point, again, I never thought to ask: if finding a job in the US is so easy, particularly in the oil industry, why couldn't you be bothered to get a job working at an oil rig and rent a cheap loft with the money that you could've made by doing so?
Because i was on a spiritual journey of my choosing.
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Originally Posted By Aaron4Prez⏩
Repping when off recharge. You are the only rational voice I've heard in this whole debate. And don't get me wrong, I have nothing against traveling and I think it can lead to amazing experiences, but the people who are glamorizing this life where their whole life revolves around traveling no matter the expense or risks are seriously delusional. Then they take it a step too far and looking down on us "peons" who have a realistic outlook on life.
Don't really see anyone except maybe 1 or 2 people doing that here. Meanwhile there are a lot of people in this thread with this delusional outlook that you have to work 40-60 hours a week from the time you're 18-65/70 and save money for a time when you're too old to enjoy it. Talk about delusional and irrational.
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In my 30s with plenty of savings from years of working. Will travel for at least a year. Wish I had done it 10 years ago.
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Originally Posted By Aaron4Prez⏩


I'm sorry, but anyone who would willingly choose homelessness has some sort of mental illness. As a species one of our main biological urges and needs is to SURVIVE. Homelessness does not increase the chances of survival.
You do realize that there are about 2 billion people on this planet that follow religions founded by people who chose just that?

You're not going to die because you don't have four brick walls, a roof, and air conditioning. Homelessness doesn't mean no shelter.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
You do realize that there are about 2 billion people on this planet that follow religions founded by people who chose just that?

You're not going to die because you don't have four brick walls, a roof, and air conditioning. Homelessness doesn't mean no shelter.
Are you referring to Buddhism by any chance?
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
Don't really see anyone except maybe 1 or 2 people doing that here. Meanwhile there are a lot of people in this thread with this delusional outlook that you have to work 40-60 hours a week from the time you're 18-65/70 and save money for a time when you're too old to enjoy it. Talk about delusional and irrational.
Like people have been hammering down ITT: there is such a thing as vacation time. There is absolutely no reason why you need to wait til you are a senior citizen in order to see the world, in line with this, there is absolutely no reason why you need to forego your career and possible earning power in order to travel. A balance can be struck, and for those who have dependents especially, such as children or elderly parents, the latter is absolutely not an option.
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
Don't really see anyone except maybe 1 or 2 people doing that here. Meanwhile there are a lot of people in this thread with this delusional outlook that you have to work 40-60 hours a week from the time you're 18-65/70 and save money for a time when you're too old to enjoy it. Talk about delusional and irrational.
Not sure where you get this concept of ever being too old to enjoy traveling. Sure you will have more energy and less things holding you back when you're younger, but you also have less money. When you're young and start living on your own, unless you have a high paying job (which most people in the early to mid 20s rarely have) money is scarce. And here's the kicker, life happens and you can never know when **** will happen. So when you need that surgery or new transmission for your car, you'll realize that memories and cool experiences, while important to a healthy and happy life, don't pay the bills. There is no arguing against this. Like I stated before, I have nothing against traveling when you're young, but international travel is rarely a smart choice financially speaking. Especially the people who want to travel to some exotic location every year.
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Originally Posted By Aaron4Prez⏩
Not sure where you get this concept of ever being too old to enjoy traveling. Sure you will have more energy and less things holding you back when you're younger, but you also have less money. When you're young and start living on your own, unless you have a high paying job (which most people in the early to mid 20s rarely have) money is scarce. And here's the kicker, life happens and you can never know when **** will happen. So when you need that surgery or new transmission for your car, you'll realize that memories and cool experiences, while important to a healthy and happy life, don't pay the bills. There is no arguing against this. Like I stated before, I have nothing against traveling when you're young, but international travel is rarely a smart choice financially speaking. Especially the people who want to travel to some exotic location every year.
That's one other really good point: how the hell do these guys know that travelling is any less enjoyable in ones 50s or 60s to begin with? Just about every person in that age group that I've talked to says the complete and total opposite.
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Originally Posted By jaimeruiz99⏩
Living in a tent while travelling is fine, sure. But let me ask though: do YOU live in a tent when you aren't travelling? I am assuming that you are also from the US.

I mean, let us take his oil rig employment suggestion as an example: the average oil rig worker earns more than sixty thousand dollars a year. A motel room is, on average, fifty bucks a month. That adds up to around 20 grand a year, leaving you with around 40 grand to spend on whatever. Subtract ten for groceries and you have 30 grand for travelling.

Given this, why in the hell would you choose to live in a tent whilst living in the US?

I mean, sorry for asking, but given the advice he's been spewing in this thread, he had absolutely no reason to be 'homeless' to begin with.

Come to think of it, may I ask: what do you do for a living?
So i should pay for shelter just because i can? I should work extra to pay for something i don't need? Did i say that i hated living out of a tent? I was never more free and more content/happy with life than during that period. Why does that perplex you?
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
So i should pay for shelter just because i can? I should work extra to pay for something i don't need? Did i say that i hated living out of a tent? I was never more free and more content/happy with life than during that period. Why does that perplex you?
Were you living in a tent on campus during your time in college as well?

Furthermore, are you still living in a tent, if not, why did you stop?

Just curious.
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Originally Posted By Aaron4Prez⏩
Repping when off recharge. You are the only rational voice I've heard in this whole debate. And don't get me wrong, I have nothing against traveling and I think it can lead to amazing experiences, but the people who are glamorizing this life where their whole life revolves around traveling no matter the expense or risks are seriously delusional. Then they take it a step too far and looking down on us "peons" who have a realistic outlook on life.
Why do you assume that because someone works a 9-5 that those that don't view them as peons?

And realistic outlook on life? What does that even mean? Does the actor that lives out of his car chasing his dream have an unrealistic outlook on life? What about the Jesuit Priest that takes a vow of poverty... does he?

There is nothing more real than chasing your goals and dreams, and the quest for knowledge.
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Originally Posted By jaimeruiz99⏩
That's one other really good point: how the hell do these guys know that travelling is any less enjoyable in ones 50s or 60s to begin with? Just about every person in that age group that I've talked to says the complete and total opposite.
If i had a quarter for every time i've ran into someone 50+ that has said, "Wish i traveled and experience life more when i was younger" ... i'd be rich.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
If i had a quarter for every time i've ran into someone 50+ that has said, "Wish i traveled and experience life more when i was younger" ... i'd be rich.
No you wouldn't.

Because you would've blown that money on travel instead of saving it. lol.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
Why do you assume that because someone works a 9-5 that those that don't view them as peons?

And realistic outlook on life? What does that even mean? Does the actor that lives out of his car chasing his dream have an unrealistic outlook on life? What about the Jesuit Priest that takes a vow of poverty... does he?

There is nothing more real than chasing your goals and dreams, and the quest for knowledge.
It isn't impossible to chase ones goals and dreams and pursue knowledge at the same time whilst maintaining a career. You don't have to live out of a tent to do that either.

Pretty sure guys like Aldous Huxley, Oliver Sacks and Carl Jung can attest to that.
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Originally Posted By jaimeruiz99⏩
Were you living in a tent on campus during your time in college as well?

Furthermore, are you still living in a tent, if not, why did you stop?

Just curious.
Because i thought it would be better to hop back into the 9-5. I was wrong.

I'm strongly considering van life, working abroad, working in Antarctica, or some great 6mo-Year trek.


I may not have all the answers or true fulfillment, but, I'm not afraid to fight for it. I can tell you I never feel more alive than when life is throwing me a ton of curve balls.
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Originally Posted By Aaron4Prez⏩
Not sure where you get this concept of ever being too old to enjoy traveling. Sure you will have more energy and less things holding you back when you're younger, but you also have less money. When you're young and start living on your own, unless you have a high paying job (which most people in the early to mid 20s rarely have) money is scarce. And here's the kicker, life happens and you can never know when **** will happen. So when you need that surgery or new transmission for your car, you'll realize that memories and cool experiences, while important to a healthy and happy life, don't pay the bills. There is no arguing against this. Like I stated before, I have nothing against traveling when you're young, but international travel is rarely a smart choice financially speaking. Especially the people who want to travel to some exotic location every year.
Friend just had surgery on a busted leg in Thailand. Total cost was 8,000 dollars and that included 9 days in the hospital. You can make payments on that over a couple years and it's nothing. Traveling for surgery and medical is actually something millions and millions of people do every year. Go figure, a developing country has better health care options than the USA.

You're right, you never know when **** will hit the fan, that's why it cracks me up when people talk non-stop with their thumb up their ass about their 401k and how much money they make while their hair turns gray from the overtime stress. Meanwhile I get by just fine (even had a job that paid well over 100k a year at one point) and travel all the time. I realized years back that making big money and being unhappy because I had no freedom wasn't worth it. I know I'm in the minority in that way of thinking but when I see people pretend to be happy because they bought a big TV and they tell themselves over and over and over and over and over again how it was a great purchase and that they're so much happier now, I just cringe.

Hell, I cringe at 90% of the things miscers post when it comes to money. All these delusional autistic posters going on about how you need to make 6 figures for this or that. The entire concept of what life is seems lost on so many people. Life is about the experiences you make in it. Why wait until you're 65 or 70 to do the things you want? That makes zero sense. Unless you want to settle down young with kids, whole family thing, I see no reason to not spend a good portion of time traveling and figuring out what you really want to do. Hell, even with kids (as I mentioned above), my family moved my siblings and I all around the globe. So many non-issues keep getting brought up in here about how things like that aren't possible but it is possible.
Originally Posted By jaimeruiz99⏩
That's one other really good point: how the hell do these guys know that travelling is any less enjoyable in ones 50s or 60s to begin with? Just about every person in that age group that I've talked to says the complete and total opposite.
Lol, try hiking up a big mountain when you're 60 compared to when you're 25-30. I majored in exercise science so I can write a 10 paragraph response about biomechanics and physiology if you want but I think that would also be a waste of time because what you're doing is called projection. You're projecting your own beliefs into scenarios in order to justify why you do/don't want to do certain things. Stop doing that. If you don't want to travel, fine, just don't make up bull**** like how it's going to be just as enjoyable to travel when you're older and unable to spryly bounce around while having fun.
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Because i thought it would be better to hop back into the 9-5. I was wrong.

I'm strongly considering van life, working abroad, working in Antarctica, or some great 6mo-Year trek.


I may not have all the answers or true fulfillment, but, I'm not afraid to fight for it. I can tell you I never feel more alive than when life is throwing me a ton of curve balls.
Wait, so are you or are you not still living in a tent? Because if not, and you feel that the 9-5 life wasn't for you, then what is stopping you from leaving your home with WiFi access and going back to living in a tent?
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Originally Posted By jaimeruiz99⏩
Wait, so are you or are you not still living in a tent? Because if not, and you feel that the 9-5 life wasn't for you, then what is stopping you from leaving your home with WiFi access and going back to living in a tent?
Oh look, a false dilemma! That's new (not srs)
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