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Thread: Crazy how DIET is the most/sole important thing to bodyfat levels

post 1457549843 08-14-2016, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
you are missing the point, dieting just accounts for total mass lost which is fat+ muscle, HIIT is a way to lose fat without losing the muscle. A high intensity HIIT can burn fat and your diet can still add muscle. When i was in the police academy i was doing 6miles of 400m sprints almost everyday as a road guard. I was 165lbs at 10%bf going into the academy i ended at 190 and probably around 7%bf. HIIT is much better for overall fat loss than just dieting
your personal anecdote doesn't counter physiological science, sorry
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ethiopian crackhead diet will get you losing fat if you stick at it.

so will the 3 full cucumbers a day and water diet for 1 month.

there is this bish in my gym that claims to eat 1500 calories a day, does 3 hrs gym 5 days a week. 1000 calories on various cardio machine and weights, and doesnt lose ANY weight.

she claims her body is different to others, i tell the bish she must be eating too much. she argues every time and says nope.

she can LDAR

calories rule etc of the day. eat too much, you get fat. vice versa. eat less, guess what happens
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Originally Posted By JRJester⏩
your personal anecdote doesn't counter physiological science, sorry
so you are sayin you dont know...got it
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holy fuk eating less food makes you lose weight. you're a genius bro.
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I've noticed when I eat clean my libido/boners decline. Yes, this is with lots of healthy fats too.

When I follow my normal diet (moderately clean with veggies/fruits but lots of fast food/high cal but high protein/fat foods) I have an insanely high sex drive.

This normal brahs?
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
actually HIIT is the most important thing, with my 20 page paper due last week i didnt have time to do my HIIT and even on a 2200 cal diet i didnt lose any weight this week when ive lost 7lbs over the previous 3 weeks
Aerobic exercise (all forms) are the most overrated contributor to fat loss. It isn't necessary and it can even be counterproductive. The only reason to do aerobics is for recreation or for competition. Weightlifting is the best form of cardio and the best accessory to fat loss.

I wish people would get over this aerobics fad, it's like everyone is still stuck in the 80s just the same way as everyone still does stupid Weider-style high volume workouts.
post 1457551963 08-14-2016, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By JRJester⏩
2016 and people are still trying to act like there's more to this equation than calories in and calories out.

Its really that simple folks. No style of training or diet has any distinguishable influences in this matter.

You eat more than maintenance, you gain weight, you eat less, you lose weight.
Lol not that simple, ever heard of hormones, macro and micro nutrient break down, digestion/ processing......
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post 1457552043 08-14-2016, 10:24 AM
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LOL @ "Sugars"

https://youtu.be/Aw4xmxUoXk0

brb 400 carbs a day, mostly from sugar, ripped as fuark
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Lmaoo, do you know how you actually lose fat? Aerobic exercise overrated lmaooo, people these days
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
so you are sayin you dont know...got it
No, I'm saying the opinion of some random neckbeard on a nerdy forum doesn't supersede scientific fact.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be one of your strengths, so please reread this post several times before responding
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This looks like a good place to ask my question, misc experts.

My genetics are frustrating.


Whenever i get leaner, my face goes full skeletal mode

Traps, and upper chest get alot thinner and flatter. I start looking like i am "I'll" get comments about face, looking more sunken

Ab definition hasn't improved much at all in comparison, Abs are visible but not lean enough. I want to continue losing more fat to get my abs ripped, but by this point the rest of my body feels to thin.

I have nice definition everywhere except my abs. I lose all motivation to continue cutting because of this situation.

what da fuk do i do pls
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Originally Posted By nzgs⏩
Aerobic exercise (all forms) are the most overrated contributor to fat loss. It isn't necessary and it can even be counterproductive. The only reason to do aerobics is for recreation or for competition. Weightlifting is the best form of cardio and the best accessory to fat loss.

I wish people would get over this aerobics fad, it's like everyone is still stuck in the 80s just the same way as everyone still does stupid Weider-style high volume workouts.
you do have a point. i see one guy in my gym and his body shape hasn't really changed in months, if anything he has lost muscle, he have very little size, some titties and a gut, small frame. but crazy cardio skills.

all he does in the gym is run hardcore, we are talking up to 11mph on a gradient of 4.5%. i've seen the machine whilst waiting in between sets. he burns over 500 calories in 30 mins. after this he goes on the bike and kills it. sweats like a mother ****er. he does this every day of the week, yet his body fat does not go down.

i feel sorry for the guy as he tries harder than most, deserves to be shredded, but does 0 weights in the gym, fk knows what he eats
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post 1457552873 08-14-2016, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Growbag⏩
My genetics are frustrating.


Whenever i get leaner, my face goes full skeletal mode

Traps, and upper chest get alot thinner and flatter. I start looking like i am "I'll" get comments about face, looking more sunken

Ab definition hasn't improved much at all in comparison, Abs are visible but not lean enough. I want to continue losing more fat to get my abs ripped, but by this point the rest of my body feels to thin.

I have nice definition everywhere except my abs. I lose all motivation to continue cutting because of this situation.

what da fuk do i do pls
lol there's not much you can do.

I'm in the same boat as you, my face naturally holds very little fat.

even at 15% b.f people were asking if I was sick, face was sunken etc.

nothing you can do about where your body stores fat
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Originally Posted By AyyBrah⏩
You can lift all you want etc. But the fat wont come off unless your DIET is on point and you're eating clean and not excess cals. Sugars not high etc.

Been binge eating junk and chit for the past week, notice and feel the difference. Just blows my mind how DIET is extremely important and can literally determine whether you will slay girls or not fukin lol.

DIET > slaying > chad lol
It's insane.

I used to bike like 60 and 70 miles every other day, and lift, but I was still fat! I couldn't believe it.

But it was all because I was eating lower protein, too many sweets, and I guess way over cals. I got my fitbit, it's super easy to track cals, and I don't have the same trouble with fat. Also, I eat mostly only protein.
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Originally Posted By 100emoji⏩
Aware yourself on intermittent fasting breh.

It helps me maintain lower bf % on cut while eating junk food when I'm unable to eat clean.
lols hopped on this lifestyle last week and have been super active on Instagram/snapchat every since. What kinda feeding window you use?
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Originally Posted By lakersfan360⏩
lols hopped on this lifestyle last week and have been super active on Instagram/snapchat every since. What kinda feeding window you use?
It works but I think if you did that and counted cals, it would be awesome.
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Originally Posted By JRJester⏩
lol there's not much you can do.

I'm in the same boat as you, my face naturally holds very little fat.

even at 15% b.f people were asking if I was sick, face was sunken etc.

nothing you can do about where your body stores fat
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Originally Posted By nzgs⏩
Aerobic exercise (all forms) are the most overrated contributor to fat loss. It isn't necessary and it can even be counterproductive. The only reason to do aerobics is for recreation or for competition. Weightlifting is the best form of cardio and the best accessory to fat loss.

I wish people would get over this aerobics fad, it's like everyone is still stuck in the 80s just the same way as everyone still does stupid Weider-style high volume workouts.


there is literally so much evidence out there showing you are wrong its mindboggling. HIIT is the ultimate fat loss, why do you think sprinters and swimmers can have low bodyfat while eating a ton of calories?
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Eating less calories than your TDEE = fat loss
Eating more calories than your TDEE= fat gain

It's as simple as that, it doesn't matter what you eat. However, carbs and especially sodium can lead to water retention which can make it seem like your getting fat quicker.
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Originally Posted By Growbag⏩
Just put on some decent mass and get down in the 12-14% range. You may never have chiselled abs due to your body storing fat there, but you can certainly look good and defined at this level of bodyfat.

btw I'm talking ACTUAL 12-14%, confirmed by dexa scan, not miscs bs visual estimated 12-14%.

12% is A LOT leaner than people actually believe.
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even more simple than that...all about being in a calorie deficit, your nutrition really isnt important when it comes to cutting BF. Not saying you shouldnt eat healthy though but plenty of idiots do it that way.
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Originally Posted By AyyBrah⏩
You can lift all you want etc. But the fat wont come off unless your DIET is on point and you're eating clean and not excess cals. Sugars not high etc.

Been binge eating junk and chit for the past week, notice and feel the difference. Just blows my mind how DIET is extremely important and can literally determine whether you will slay girls or not fukin lol.

DIET > slaying > chad lol
Like eating egg whites and brown rice are going to resulting in being a Chad. That's why so many on here are FA lol.

Girls don't care about muscles unless she is a lifter.
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Can confirm OP. Fukkin weirdest thing, started eating less than I need and it made me lose fat. But that's not all, when I changed it up and started eating lots more, I got fat. Chit is mind blowing I swear to god makes no sense.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
It's insane.

I used to bike like 60 and 70 miles every other day, and lift, but I was still fat! I couldn't believe it.

But it was all because I was eating lower protein, too many sweets, and I guess way over cals. I got my fitbit, it's super easy to track cals, and I don't have the same trouble with fat. Also, I eat mostly only protein.
Same, I was doing 2-3 hours of cardio a day, lifting 2x a week, but eating a lot of whole grains and lower protein. I ended up with high body fat. Then started to cut out the extra carbs and tracked calories. I was eating 2400 calories a day, so had to get down to 1950, then 1700 to lose the fat.
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Originally Posted By AttorneyBrah⏩
Can confirm OP. Fukkin weirdest thing, started eating less than I need and it made me lose fat. But that's not all, when I changed it up and started eating lots more, I got fat. Chit is mind blowing I swear to god makes no sense.
lol it sounds like common sense but the majority of the general population believe that weight loss is some kind of secret formula, hence why weight loss is a billion dollar industry.

Pretty sad when all you need to lose weight is to understand a simple equation
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
you do have a point. i see one guy in my gym and his body shape hasn't really changed in months, if anything he has lost muscle, he have very little size, some titties and a gut, small frame. but crazy cardio skills.

all he does in the gym is run hardcore, we are talking up to 11mph on a gradient of 4.5%. i've seen the machine whilst waiting in between sets. he burns over 500 calories in 30 mins. after this he goes on the bike and kills it. sweats like a mother ****er. he does this every day of the week, yet his body fat does not go down.

i feel sorry for the guy as he tries harder than most, deserves to be shredded, but does 0 weights in the gym, fk knows what he eats
It's believed that doing a lot of cardio is counterproductive to losing weight because it tends to stimulate an appetite. After his workout, he probably goes and eats back all the calories he burned in his post workout meal. There have been some studies that showed that weightlifting was more effective for losing weight than cardio.
Originally Posted By G-Profit⏩
I've noticed when I eat clean my libido/boners decline. Yes, this is with lots of healthy fats too.

When I follow my normal diet (moderately clean with veggies/fruits but lots of fast food/high cal but high protein/fat foods) I have an insanely high sex drive.

This normal brahs?
Yea this is normal. It happens when your fat intake gets too low. It can affect your hormones.
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Originally Posted By ConR⏩
Eating less calories than your TDEE = fat loss
Eating more calories than your TDEE= fat gain

It's as simple as that, it doesn't matter what you eat. However, carbs and especially sodium can lead to water retention which can make it seem like your getting fat quicker.
If you lift hard though, you need a protein rich diet.

What you're going for is body composition, not just fat loss.
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Originally Posted By AyyBrah⏩
genetics to an extent yes. But for example I'm very sensitive to carbs and fats. They have to be lowered for me to be shredded and have that jawline of piss. But still the same principle applies. DIET is very underrated and literally the only thing stopping majority of people from slaying srs.
genetics is eveything ..
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Originally Posted By Ripper908⏩
Genetics determine how strict you have to be with diet

Skinny teens born with abs who claim to be "hard gainers" don't know how lucky they have it to never have to cut body fat. They can lift to build a solid foundation then jump on dat dere and they will look like gods
This is true. I was 170 pounds till 25. Eat like 4 eggs and 200gr bacon for dining, nothing didn't help. Now when I'm older eat 3 time less but manage to build some muscle.
And funny how skinny teens jump at gear to basically mess theirs perfectly balanced endocrine system.
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