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ยป 50 years ago, nobody went to college. Why is it so necessary now?
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post 1459081773 08-24-2016, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Cuchulainn







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feels good knowing i make that much more than the median doctorate and i dont even have a degree, hah
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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post 1459081923 08-24-2016, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Eskimo
College was pushed hard
College was made more accessible as in any retard can get into a college
Parents pushing their kids into college as they never went
Ability to go to college online
Etc...
Also, countries like India and China pay for people to go to school specifically so they can compete as a country. We do this a little but not to nearly the same degree. Plus our universities are allowed to charge whatever they want and it's part of a huge plan to keep people in debt their entire lives. Kinda sad really.
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post 1459082183 08-24-2016, 09:18 AM
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I didn't go to college and im currently more successful then anybody I know irl. My age or otherwise. (Ok i went to like a very half a$$ed semester or two at local CC). And get this: I don't have mountains of student debt! or any!

But i'm only so sad for the bunch who make their own decision to go to college now-a-day's for 90% of the degrees/fields available. It's not like the debt comes out of nowhere. You're well aware of the costs, and if you have some decent common sense you should be very well aware of the current job market for college grads or just everyone in general.
post 1459082333 08-24-2016, 09:19 AM
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Lmao,

inb4 Misc tradies and other uneducated subhumans claim to be making 5x what everyone else in their field makes
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post 1459082513 08-24-2016, 09:20 AM
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Cucked by the international banking system to keep you in debt and a slave to them
post 1459083093 08-24-2016, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah
Cucked by the international banking system to keep you in debt and a slave to them
This is true. As a college graduate with a decent job, I have seen numerous people that have gone to college taht had no business going to college. They either racked up vast amounts of student loans with worthless degrees (I did that but paid them down significantly) or went and failed out because they didn't care or thought it would be way easier.
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post 1459083223 08-24-2016, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains
mad as fuk swimming deep in my student debt crew


tell lucasz i want his job
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post 1459083343 08-24-2016, 09:25 AM
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Can the people that do IT summarize what they do exactly? Should I be thinking about programming and stuff or what? Also, how easy is it to learn that chit and how would I get into a IT related job?
post 1459083643 08-24-2016, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol
Step 1: Don't go to college

Step 2: Be good at IT

Step 3: Get certifications from Cisco, Microsoft and a CISSP for tryhards

Step 4: Make more then 90% of college graduates with minimal time investment and no student loan debt. Also goat hours and playing online poker 50% of the day.
My friend did this, he was 24 and and was making way into 6 figures with 35 year olds working under him. Kinda lulz.
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post 1459083693 08-24-2016, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted By rockr101
it's required for a job soooooooo
I actually know directors and VPs that don't have degrees. They worked their way up, something young people don't understand and want to do anymore
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post 1459084123 08-24-2016, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By AtomicVeggie
If you need it spelled out for you, it's because we have outsourced many manufacturing jobs overseas which previously comprised the backbone of our economy. Combined with technological advancements, we've shifted to a knowledge based and a service based economy (plus tradies LOL).

For the most part, you either have a degree and partake in the knowledge part of the economy (STEM, business, etc) or you don't and partake in the service part (retail, restaurant, customer service, etc).
Yeah man. "Knowledge based and service based economy". So teach us in socialism too. At end average MONTHLY wage was 50$ or 2$/day. Yeah you will sh knowledge at job site and someone will pay you mad money. Yeah.
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol
Step 1: Don't go to college

Step 2: Be good at IT

Step 3: Get certifications from Cisco, Microsoft and a CISSP for tryhards

Step 4: Make more then 90% of college graduates with minimal time investment and no student loan debt. Also goat hours and playing online poker 50% of the day.
I don't want to sit at a fukn desk though. And staring at at a screen trying to fix software I'd boring as fuk
post 1459084953 08-24-2016, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By velvetmudhole
I actually know directors and VPs that don't have degrees. They worked their way up, something young people don't understand and want to do anymore
Posting stuff like this is pointless really as its obviously the few and far between exception

There are no doubts that average lifetime earnings heavily favor college grads
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on in subtle traddies vs stemmies thread
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post 1459085403 08-24-2016, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By velvetmudhole
I actually know directors and VPs that don't have degrees. They worked their way up, something young people don't understand and want to do anymore
If you can strike a balance doing both, working smart and studying smart with a useful major, then you made it srs
post 1459086523 08-24-2016, 09:47 AM
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50 years ago we didn't have such advanced science/health and technology sectors either.

You are telling me some uneducated person could just go into STEM field and be good at it out of nowhere, lmao? Sure you can learn some things by yourself like programming, but do you really thing there are a lot of people who are good at detailed science/engineering without being educated in it?

Also stop trying to find reasons to justify you not going to college, LMAO tradies, just lmao.
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to make money off of you via student loans.
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Your employer needs to know that you're capable of being a slave. You need to be willing to do boring ass work for long hours. The only way to prove this is by going to college. By studying boring ass work for long hours.
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Originally Posted By velvetmudhole
I actually know directors and VPs that don't have degrees. They worked their way up, something young people don't understand and want to do anymore
well to be fair, any company where there's enough size to 'work your way up' wont give you the time of day unless you have a degree
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol
Step 1: Don't go to college

Step 2: Be good at IT

Step 3: Get certifications from Cisco, Microsoft and a CISSP for tryhards

Step 4: Make more then 90% of college graduates with minimal time investment and no student loan debt. Also goat hours and playing online poker 50% of the day.
this but it's not easy, those test hard as hell brother.
I just want to share the knowledge I have obtained throughout my life and hopefully change someone's life.
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Originally Posted By devin45k
This is true. As a college graduate with a decent job, I have seen numerous people that have gone to college taht had no business going to college. They either racked up vast amounts of student loans with worthless degrees (I did that but paid them down significantly) or went and failed out because they didn't care or thought it would be way easier.
College is important but it isn't for everyone and it sure as fuk ain't for gender studies degrees
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One day it's all gonna flip. College has already lost most of its value. Tradies will rule the world.
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Simply put, they just don't know any better.

They think they have to go to college to make money and have a life. They are also lazy so they go the easy route and fit into the system. Some make it, some end up as 4 year degree holding cashiers.

If only they new the money potential in public safety and trades.
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Originally Posted By BaySeaAnd
there are TONS of high-skilled technical jobs. in IT, Engineering, medical, etc. Thats what the world needs right now. We are advancing our tech globally, one of the best ways to be apart of that is educating yourself in the roots of that tech (math, science etc).

The problem with universities is they allow people to spend 4 years getting a degree in a language they already speak and charging just as much as someone studying machine learning and AI.

Then the people who made that poor choice, which was facilitated by the university, expect to magically get jobs left and right.

We need to treat colleges the way they should be treated; as a place to expand your understanding of the world. NOT as a job fair. This way when someone says they're majoring in English they won't have an unfounded expectation of high demand for their skills - which is only true for people pursuing what the world needs to expand its technological capabilities.
Repped! In an ideal world, tuition costs would be linked to a degree's expected earnings.



But then again it's not an ideal world, and colleges are still a business at the end of the day. Money takes precedence over value for money for them.
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i'm in IT sales: no college degree, no hs school diploma, no ged. Work from home, no fuks given.

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Originally Posted By BaySeaAnd
there are TONS of high-skilled technical jobs. in IT, Engineering, medical, etc. Thats what the world needs right now. We are advancing our tech globally, one of the best ways to be apart of that is educating yourself in the roots of that tech (math, science etc).

The problem with universities is they allow people to spend 4 years getting a degree in a language they already speak and charging just as much as someone studying machine learning and AI.

Then the people who made that poor choice, which was facilitated by the university, expect to magically get jobs left and right.

We need to treat colleges the way they should be treated; as a place to expand your understanding of the world. NOT as a job fair. This way when someone says they're majoring in English they won't have an unfounded expectation of high demand for their skills - which is only true for people pursuing what the world needs to expand its technological capabilities.
Where are these liberal arts majors with high expectations of the job field? Never met em.
Universities themselves are falling to **** outside of being funded research/lab centers.
People are self-educating themselves all the time.

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Originally Posted By bemyguest
50 years ago we didn't have such advanced science/health and technology sectors either.

You are telling me some uneducated person could just go into STEM field and be good at it out of nowhere, lmao? Sure you can learn some things by yourself like programming, but do you really thing there are a lot of people who are good at detailed science/engineering without being educated in it?

Also stop trying to find reasons to justify you not going to college, LMAO tradies, just lmao.
For the record, I went to college.
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Lol at the trades hate. Do you know who builds, maintains and repairs the physical infrastructure?

No one wants to live in a place with crumbling and failing infrastructure.

Your hate should be directed at people who contribute nothing to society, degree or not.
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Originally Posted By Ilovemygf
Lol at the trades hate. Do you know who builds, maintains and repairs the physical infrastructure?

No one wants to live in a place with crumbling and failing infrastructure.

Your hate should be directed at people who contribute nothing to society, degree or not.
Example?
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