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Originally Posted By white_pele⏩
Hope you keep all your stuffjust lol @ miscers in their 20s being anti marriage, only to grow up to learn all the good ones are taken
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09-06-2016, 11:01 AM
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Women have been told they can have it all. As they get older they realize they can't and this leads to insecurity, craziness, testing boundaries, etc. The sad part is there's no solution to this, less than half of us will get a good woman. I got my ex wife young, took her virginity and it still didn't work.
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Originally Posted By Hypernation⏩
I matched with this one chick on Bumble last month. 34. RN, active. Classically gorgeous. I talked to her on the phone a bit and she was fun to talk to, etc.I'm glad so many of you bros know what I'm talking about right away. Love ya'll (some homo).
It's been really getting me down lately.
Like being selective is something that's looked down upon and has been shooting me in the foot as of late.
The most common thing is finding her, 29+, and she's attractive, nice house, solid job, but she's a complete fu cking nutcase. Like... I sit there wondering how she has the set-up she does and can tie her shoes and drive to work every morning. Ugh.
It's been really getting me down lately.
Like being selective is something that's looked down upon and has been shooting me in the foot as of late.
The most common thing is finding her, 29+, and she's attractive, nice house, solid job, but she's a complete fu cking nutcase. Like... I sit there wondering how she has the set-up she does and can tie her shoes and drive to work every morning. Ugh.
Long story short is I like to send funny pictures, etc. I sent something to her and she took offense to it. This is a total 180 from when we talked before. Anyways I know I'm not describing things right but she totally went from hot to cold real fast...don't know what I said or did wrong.
Recently talked to this one 27 year old. Neuroscientist. She seemed really cool. A transplant from Nashville. She was a little snarky and all but we planned to meet one another. Well I showed her a video of me shooting a gun (I've been getting into it a lot lately) and she devolved the conversation into this whole anti-gun debate. Clearly she was more interested in 'proving me wrong' about guns instead of just saying 'that's cool, that's not my thing. Pissed me off b/c she was asking if I was a Trump supporter, etc. I'm not, but who gives a **** even if I was. ****ing crazy bat**** liberal. She has 3 cats too lol.
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09-06-2016, 11:41 AM
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09-06-2016, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By tehgosu⏩
I think it was said earlier itt but the only reason a man should consider women in their 30s is if he is in his 40s.women in their 30s are desperate af, turns me off most the time
09-06-2016, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Sooooo..... you gonna show us what you sent to her or what?I matched with this one chick on Bumble last month. 34. RN, active. Classically gorgeous. I talked to her on the phone a bit and she was fun to talk to, etc.
Long story short is I like to send funny pictures, etc. I sent something to her and she took offense to it.This is a total 180 from when we talked before. Anyways I know I'm not describing things right but she totally went from hot to cold real fast...don't know what I said or did wrong.
Recently talked to this one 27 year old. Neuroscientist. She seemed really cool. A transplant from Nashville. She was a little snarky and all but we planned to meet one another. Well I showed her a video of me shooting a gun (I've been getting into it a lot lately) and she devolved the conversation into this whole anti-gun debate. Clearly she was more interested in 'proving me wrong' about guns instead of just saying 'that's cool, that's not my thing. Pissed me off b/c she was asking if I was a Trump supporter, etc. I'm not, but who gives a **** even if I was. ****ing crazy bat**** liberal. She has 3 cats too lol.
Long story short is I like to send funny pictures, etc. I sent something to her and she took offense to it.This is a total 180 from when we talked before. Anyways I know I'm not describing things right but she totally went from hot to cold real fast...don't know what I said or did wrong.
Recently talked to this one 27 year old. Neuroscientist. She seemed really cool. A transplant from Nashville. She was a little snarky and all but we planned to meet one another. Well I showed her a video of me shooting a gun (I've been getting into it a lot lately) and she devolved the conversation into this whole anti-gun debate. Clearly she was more interested in 'proving me wrong' about guns instead of just saying 'that's cool, that's not my thing. Pissed me off b/c she was asking if I was a Trump supporter, etc. I'm not, but who gives a **** even if I was. ****ing crazy bat**** liberal. She has 3 cats too lol.
09-06-2016, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
its odd that women use their feelings to justify everything instead of logic, and it applies to everything from cawk to thousand dollar purses and shoes.Women never think in principles, they think in feelings. The only way around this is to find a woman that feels bad enough for not telling him, that she confesses. That's why finding a woman with a strong conscience in general is very high up on my list of desirable traits.
a woman with a conscience is rare these days as is finding a woman with virtue; they are long gone, things of the past.
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09-06-2016, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
Oh ha that would help...I was on my phone when I typed thisSooooo..... you gonna show us what you sent to her or what?

It was an innocuous joke. Someone sent it to me. Maybe the fact that she was 34 and single at her age it resonated but I never called her crazy or anything.
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That's not bad at all lol..... ^^^^
Chick has no sense of humour.
Chit.... just noticed you got banned.... wtf?
Chick has no sense of humour.
Chit.... just noticed you got banned.... wtf?
09-06-2016, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By BioDiver⏩
Fellow manlet, can you drop some game knowledge for us 30 year old brahs wanting to date younger ladies. We must unite!Early 30s dating early/mid 20s crew, can confirm that the >28 hump is real.
09-06-2016, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Hypernation⏩
There's your problem. You're only dating American white girlsI dabbled for a while in the cuck-scene
09-06-2016, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By EboBebo⏩
Can you elaborate a bit on the camera part? Why is it good to always have one around? Also what about manlet's like me fuuuuk. I feel like if I'm not at Zac Efron baywatch body, it's going to be fukin tough to get a chick.I'm 32 and seeing a 19 year old. Stay in shape, excel at work, always have a good camera around, and you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted By Hypernation⏩
this is why i date 25 year olds even though I'm 351. saying wacky religious chit while you're in the sac (and after)
2. Obsessive calling and texting
3. deer in headlight during conversations like not all the lights are on inside
4. Hyperinsecurities in bed
5. Bipolar as fu ck
The list goes on, man. I'm just saying these are probably girls you have all dealt with, but they're in utmost surplus past 29 years of age. It's terrible.
2. Obsessive calling and texting
3. deer in headlight during conversations like not all the lights are on inside
4. Hyperinsecurities in bed
5. Bipolar as fu ck
The list goes on, man. I'm just saying these are probably girls you have all dealt with, but they're in utmost surplus past 29 years of age. It's terrible.
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09-06-2016, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By ppself⏩
All of this. Happily married brah here (almost 15 yrs). It's important long term to embrace some of these things and turn them into positives or to ignore them.Wait, wut?
All women are like this.
When they are not. It's because they have no responsibilities or care in the world. Bascially they are young.
#1 Example? Both me and the wife are strict Christians. We don't really say weird religious stuff.
#2 Means they really like you. They would rather talk to you than someone else.
#3 Means they are not interested in what you are saying. Which my wife does to me when i talk about gaming or comics.
#4 I see this with personal appearance daily. It's a woman thing.
#5 Yep. It's a human thing. Women have hormones that get crazy.
IMO. Men need to start being men. There is a reason why we are men and they are women. Women push the BS, and Men are able to adsorb it.
All women are like this.
When they are not. It's because they have no responsibilities or care in the world. Bascially they are young.
#1 Example? Both me and the wife are strict Christians. We don't really say weird religious stuff.
#2 Means they really like you. They would rather talk to you than someone else.
#3 Means they are not interested in what you are saying. Which my wife does to me when i talk about gaming or comics.
#4 I see this with personal appearance daily. It's a woman thing.
#5 Yep. It's a human thing. Women have hormones that get crazy.
IMO. Men need to start being men. There is a reason why we are men and they are women. Women push the BS, and Men are able to adsorb it.
For instance, I like that my wife texts me throughout the day, even trivial stuff. Usually gets playful when it's not about plans for later or something important. Bonus points for a pic of her looking hot at work. I use these convos as a chance to re-confirm how attractive I think she is which mitigates the insecurities and such. Win-Win.
Also, don't you zone out when she's talking about her scrapbooking or other bullchit that you don't nor ever will give a damn about? Exactly, you smile and nod because it's important to her.
Maybe I got lucky or maybe it's bc we've both just assimilated to living together over time but you're gonna have to get over some of this chit at some point. Even the best women are prone to the occasional emotional outburst and other annoying stuff.
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Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
Damn, that's fukkin savage. Sounds like you have some kickass friends though. Hope you find a really good one, you deserve it after all that.All these years she's looked me dead in the eye with zero remorse.
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Mundungus, sounds like you have a great marriage, alot like mine. Ofcourse its not always great, but the good definitely outweighs the bad. I male whored heavily from highschool til 26..I know both sides of the game..
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This worries me. I've been with my girl 3 years almost and just turned 30. I still wanna bang other girls but I'm not sure if it's viable any more. Finding another girl as good as mine when I'm 32/33 might be difficult... but times are different these days. Who knows.
I'd only go Latina anyway and they don't mind dating a lot older men. Fuk white women lol.
I'd only go Latina anyway and they don't mind dating a lot older men. Fuk white women lol.
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Currently learning Japanese and hope to find a Japanese chick from Japan (18-21) since their population is on the decline.
Japanese males would rather jerk off to anime porn than meet a real woman.
Japanese males would rather jerk off to anime porn than meet a real woman.
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you should be winning at life if you are in your 30s, single, with no kids. Without the distractions of kids and a wife/gf, your value should be increasing every year
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Originally Posted By Mundungus⏩
Friends can get you through tough chit. I remember my ex fukked me over. We went out to bar hop with a ton of people, my friends and their associates(friends of friends you occasionally see) found out about it and everyone was telling me chit like "She made the mistake, not you, everyone knows you're man of your word dude". Grateful as hell to be surrounded by good peopleDamn, that's fukkin savage. Sounds like you have some kickass friends though. Hope you find a really good one, you deserve it after all that.
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Originally Posted By Hypernation⏩
Thats most women. Why don't you date younger? Typical miscer.1. saying wacky religious chit while you're in the sac (and after)
2. Obsessive calling and texting
3. deer in headlight during conversations like not all the lights are on inside
4. Hyperinsecurities in bed
5. Bipolar as fu ck
The list goes on, man. I'm just saying these are probably girls you have all dealt with, but they're in utmost surplus past 29 years of age. It's terrible.
2. Obsessive calling and texting
3. deer in headlight during conversations like not all the lights are on inside
4. Hyperinsecurities in bed
5. Bipolar as fu ck
The list goes on, man. I'm just saying these are probably girls you have all dealt with, but they're in utmost surplus past 29 years of age. It's terrible.
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Originally Posted By onaed⏩
Very true, and the vast majority have ridden the cock carousel hard (no pun intended) in their 20's.I want kids some day.
But women in their 30s who havent had kids are a whole different level of dating. They want to seal the deal in a year and have kids firmed up with you--either pregnant or plans to be.
The fear of aging out is very real to them at that age in my experience. Dating comes across as excessively transactional with them. You can almost taste the fear.
I try and date girls around 24-26. Keeps things sort of sane.
But women in their 30s who havent had kids are a whole different level of dating. They want to seal the deal in a year and have kids firmed up with you--either pregnant or plans to be.
The fear of aging out is very real to them at that age in my experience. Dating comes across as excessively transactional with them. You can almost taste the fear.
I try and date girls around 24-26. Keeps things sort of sane.
I'm 37 and have ALOT of experience here and 100% honest, it's terrible dating women in their 30's. After about 32-33 its game over boyos.
I hustled in my 20's and was engaged at 33, it didn't end up working (long story), but the women I've dated that were in their 30's were:
- Complete sloots wanting to settle down with a beta provider. This theory is 100% true. Many of these girls were size queens, BBC lovers, party girls and just nymphos that can't fight the biological clock. Absolute trash tier for something serious.
- Mental disorders galore. Bipolar, narcissism, dissociative, schiz.
- Absolutely terrible personalities on some of them. Man haters, aggressively insulting, no filters, trashy, weird and awkward.
- Secret whales living on a vegan diet to find a husband then they blow the FUK up.
- Baby rabies type women that are all to eager to raw dog, "take" the pill so you can "do it with no condom", buying condoms at the store (pin hole time) etc.
- Bitchy, abrasive man hating feminists that can't fight their biological urges to lock down a beta they will never respect.
- Nothing going on, never built a career, no prospects, no street smarts.
I make a lot of money, have my place paid off, great prospects, look younger than 30 so I often just tell 20-somethings I'm 28. But 30-something women, BEWARE, they really don't care about you its getting what they want first and foremost.
I wish I had wifed up some chick in my 20's because its ugly out there!!
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Originally Posted By zuocruz⏩
Lmao, I tried doing this last year. I only managed to learn for about 1-2 months then I gave upCurrently learning Japanese and hope to find a Japanese chick from Japan (18-21) since their population is on the decline.
Japanese males would rather jerk off to anime porn than meet a real woman.
Japanese males would rather jerk off to anime porn than meet a real woman.
Originally Posted By Theanine⏩
Fuark, seems like glow is correlated to quality of a woman. Once they lose the glow, they become like what you wrote, insaneVery true, and the vast majority have ridden the cock carousel hard (no pun intended) in their 20's.
I'm 37 and have ALOT of experience here and 100% honest, it's terrible dating women in their 30's. After about 32-33 its game over boyos.
I hustled in my 20's and was engaged at 33, it didn't end up working (long story), but the women I've dated that were in their 30's were:
- Complete sloots wanting to settle down with a beta provider. This theory is 100% true. Many of these girls were size queens, BBC lovers, party girls and just nymphos that can't fight the biological clock. Absolute trash tier for something serious.
- Mental disorders galore. Bipolar, narcissism, dissociative, schiz.
- Absolutely terrible personalities on some of them. Man haters, aggressively insulting, no filters, trashy, weird and awkward.
- Secret whales living on a vegan diet to find a husband then they blow the FUK up.
- Baby rabies type women that are all to eager to raw dog, "take" the pill so you can "do it with no condom", buying condoms at the store (pin hole time) etc.
- Bitchy, abrasive man hating feminists that can't fight their biological urges to lock down a beta they will never respect.
- Nothing going on, never built a career, no prospects, no street smarts.
I make a lot of money, have my place paid off, great prospects, look younger than 30 so I often just tell 20-somethings I'm 28. But 30-something women, BEWARE, they really don't care about you its getting what they want first and foremost.
I wish I had wifed up some chick in my 20's because its ugly out there!!
I'm 37 and have ALOT of experience here and 100% honest, it's terrible dating women in their 30's. After about 32-33 its game over boyos.
I hustled in my 20's and was engaged at 33, it didn't end up working (long story), but the women I've dated that were in their 30's were:
- Complete sloots wanting to settle down with a beta provider. This theory is 100% true. Many of these girls were size queens, BBC lovers, party girls and just nymphos that can't fight the biological clock. Absolute trash tier for something serious.
- Mental disorders galore. Bipolar, narcissism, dissociative, schiz.
- Absolutely terrible personalities on some of them. Man haters, aggressively insulting, no filters, trashy, weird and awkward.
- Secret whales living on a vegan diet to find a husband then they blow the FUK up.
- Baby rabies type women that are all to eager to raw dog, "take" the pill so you can "do it with no condom", buying condoms at the store (pin hole time) etc.
- Bitchy, abrasive man hating feminists that can't fight their biological urges to lock down a beta they will never respect.
- Nothing going on, never built a career, no prospects, no street smarts.
I make a lot of money, have my place paid off, great prospects, look younger than 30 so I often just tell 20-somethings I'm 28. But 30-something women, BEWARE, they really don't care about you its getting what they want first and foremost.
I wish I had wifed up some chick in my 20's because its ugly out there!!
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Originally Posted By onaed⏩
I want kids some day.
But women in their 30s who havent had kids are a whole different level of dating. They want to seal the deal in a year and have kids firmed up with you--either pregnant or plans to be.
The fear of aging out is very real to them at that age in my experience. Dating comes across as excessively transactional with them. You can almost taste the fear.
I try and date girls around 24-26. Keeps things sort of sane.
But women in their 30s who havent had kids are a whole different level of dating. They want to seal the deal in a year and have kids firmed up with you--either pregnant or plans to be.
The fear of aging out is very real to them at that age in my experience. Dating comes across as excessively transactional with them. You can almost taste the fear.
I try and date girls around 24-26. Keeps things sort of sane.
Originally Posted By joshewwah⏩
There's some serious truth to glow theory (srs). Glow is like a genetic indicator of overall reproductive health, general health, fertility and even to some degree, I'd say mental health because they haven't been beaten down by life yet, look weary, haggard and bitter.Lmao, I tried doing this last year. I only managed to learn for about 1-2 months then I gave up
Fuark, seems like glow is correlated to quality of a woman. Once they lose the glow, they become like what you wrote, insane
Fuark, seems like glow is correlated to quality of a woman. Once they lose the glow, they become like what you wrote, insane
Glow theory for the win brahs. No glow, no go. Misc nailed that one.
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yeah that's cool and all but no rush boyos, men can date younger women whereas women usually won't
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In a way I feel kind of bad for these women. There's a small subset that had to work from a young age and could never not work due to their circumstances, so they never really had the time to develop their relationship skills.
Then there's others, a much larger subset, that were brainwashed from a young age by pride, home life, whatever into thinking that they needed to adopt masculine traits. They become so concerned with not being submissive that they become overly dominant. They feel that to be equal they need to focus on their career and "don't need no man" mindset, even while in a relationship (so the partners are pretty much roommates, no affection, no passion, no gender connection). Then as time goes on, that inevitable instinct kicks in where they want to be feminine deep down. They want to have a kid. Maybe they get a glimpse that career isn't all there is to life, they want a family. But by then for alot of them it is too late, they are so mired in their old mindsets that they never developed healthy relationship skills so now you have aging women in constant self conflict (translates to being batchit crazy) who don't know how to be in a relationship.
It's really a product of them listening to all these bitter old hags and trying to be a feminist or trying to be the dominant in everything, which is anti-feminine. The truth is, very very few men want a masculine woman, and these women don't seem to understand that. But by the time they do, usually the tour is over bc they are psychologically damaged and can't even give a relationship what it needs on the most basic levels.
Then there's others, a much larger subset, that were brainwashed from a young age by pride, home life, whatever into thinking that they needed to adopt masculine traits. They become so concerned with not being submissive that they become overly dominant. They feel that to be equal they need to focus on their career and "don't need no man" mindset, even while in a relationship (so the partners are pretty much roommates, no affection, no passion, no gender connection). Then as time goes on, that inevitable instinct kicks in where they want to be feminine deep down. They want to have a kid. Maybe they get a glimpse that career isn't all there is to life, they want a family. But by then for alot of them it is too late, they are so mired in their old mindsets that they never developed healthy relationship skills so now you have aging women in constant self conflict (translates to being batchit crazy) who don't know how to be in a relationship.
It's really a product of them listening to all these bitter old hags and trying to be a feminist or trying to be the dominant in everything, which is anti-feminine. The truth is, very very few men want a masculine woman, and these women don't seem to understand that. But by the time they do, usually the tour is over bc they are psychologically damaged and can't even give a relationship what it needs on the most basic levels.
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Originally Posted By Hypernation⏩
I can confirm. I have dated a few attractive 30+ year old women (who don't have kids) in the last couple of years, and they are all mentally unstable. I think they suffer from two extremely conflicting beliefs, that make them crazy. On one hand, they suffer from the princess syndrome - I'm a princess and only the best is good enough for me. On the other hand, their biological clock is racing and they desperately want children. So they constantly change their opinion, freak out at even the smallest things, go from cold and arrogant to desperate and needy within days, don't want to be pumped and dumped, but loves to get fuked hard... It's impossible to have a stable and cool relationship with them. I prefer 25 year olds...Last night was my last straw, man. Tired of finding these aesthetic females that are literally insane. It's actually starting to worry me.
09-10-2016, 06:58 AM
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i prolly dodged a huge bullet.
met a 30 yr old at this retreat. kicked it off, got along great so at the end of the week we decided to try long distance. chit was moving fukin fast, made plans to visit her over labor day weekend. but chit was just moving to fast for me. didn't help she had gotten out of a 2 year relationship 2 weeks before we met (deal breaker).
i tried to talk to her on the phone but she some how talked me out of it lolol. so i fukin e-mail her smh. the way i rationalized this is, im fukin 25 years old, im working on my career (grad school), got a decent day job and im in very good shape. i dont need to be spending time with a washed up chick 4 hours away on weekends when i can be studying. ive finally found purpose and drive, on top of that a fun hobby i really enjoy (mountain biking).
my mom actually put it the best way, itll be fun for the next 2-3 years but then chit will hit the fan and her biological clock is going to be ticking and what not and all that fun will be gone.
met a 30 yr old at this retreat. kicked it off, got along great so at the end of the week we decided to try long distance. chit was moving fukin fast, made plans to visit her over labor day weekend. but chit was just moving to fast for me. didn't help she had gotten out of a 2 year relationship 2 weeks before we met (deal breaker).
i tried to talk to her on the phone but she some how talked me out of it lolol. so i fukin e-mail her smh. the way i rationalized this is, im fukin 25 years old, im working on my career (grad school), got a decent day job and im in very good shape. i dont need to be spending time with a washed up chick 4 hours away on weekends when i can be studying. ive finally found purpose and drive, on top of that a fun hobby i really enjoy (mountain biking).
my mom actually put it the best way, itll be fun for the next 2-3 years but then chit will hit the fan and her biological clock is going to be ticking and what not and all that fun will be gone.
be the turtle in the race.
09-10-2016, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84⏩
i can see your logic. makes senseIn a way I feel kind of bad for these women. There's a small subset that had to work from a young age and could never not work due to their circumstances, so they never really had the time to develop their relationship skills.
Then there's others, a much larger subset, that were brainwashed from a young age by pride, home life, whatever into thinking that they needed to adopt masculine traits. They become so concerned with not being submissive that they become overly dominant. They feel that to be equal they need to focus on their career and "don't need no man" mindset, even while in a relationship (so the partners are pretty much roommates, no affection, no passion, no gender connection). Then as time goes on, that inevitable instinct kicks in where they want to be feminine deep down. They want to have a kid. Maybe they get a glimpse that career isn't all there is to life, they want a family. But by then for alot of them it is too late, they are so mired in their old mindsets that they never developed healthy relationship skills so now you have aging women in constant self conflict (translates to being batchit crazy) who don't know how to be in a relationship.
It's really a product of them listening to all these bitter old hags and trying to be a feminist or trying to be the dominant in everything, which is anti-feminine. The truth is, very very few men want a masculine woman, and these women don't seem to understand that. But by the time they do, usually the tour is over bc they are psychologically damaged and can't even give a relationship what it needs on the most basic levels.
Then there's others, a much larger subset, that were brainwashed from a young age by pride, home life, whatever into thinking that they needed to adopt masculine traits. They become so concerned with not being submissive that they become overly dominant. They feel that to be equal they need to focus on their career and "don't need no man" mindset, even while in a relationship (so the partners are pretty much roommates, no affection, no passion, no gender connection). Then as time goes on, that inevitable instinct kicks in where they want to be feminine deep down. They want to have a kid. Maybe they get a glimpse that career isn't all there is to life, they want a family. But by then for alot of them it is too late, they are so mired in their old mindsets that they never developed healthy relationship skills so now you have aging women in constant self conflict (translates to being batchit crazy) who don't know how to be in a relationship.
It's really a product of them listening to all these bitter old hags and trying to be a feminist or trying to be the dominant in everything, which is anti-feminine. The truth is, very very few men want a masculine woman, and these women don't seem to understand that. But by the time they do, usually the tour is over bc they are psychologically damaged and can't even give a relationship what it needs on the most basic levels.
be the turtle in the race.
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