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Thread: Just another incident of a cop shooting someones dog......

post 1462582783 09-16-2016, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
uh...yea it does in fact make it right.
I guess you could argue the moral high ground on slavery back when it was legal too. Some laws are unjust brah.
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84⏩
After being involved in this entire thread, I'm really at a bit of a loss. Sure, I rage when these stories come up. I've worked with animals my entire life and will continue to do so in a medical capacity, so these stories of entitled and cowardly cops bother me.

But you are a different breed altogether. You've expressed multiple deficits in this thread....sociopathic thinking, intellectual inferiority on an alarming level, an inability to comprehend what you are reading, a stark inability to form a coherent, logical argument, a complete bias for police activity regardless of how unjustified or possibly even illegal, stubbornness, and downright rudeness (I'm not a saint here either). But with all that said, I'm legitimately frightened that people like you are officers of the law. You represent everything that every social group has been saying for years, which I tend not to agree with but you have singlehandedly proven it. You represent a militaristic, unchecked police force, privileged and entitled to do whatever you want, run by and composed of individuals that potentially have severe cognitive deficits and sociopathic or psychopathic tendencies. That's downright scary, and the state of things across the country. You should be sterilized and hospitalized, not out in charge of social order and "serving and protecting". How sad this is.
lmao not even once,

Ive posted how it is LEGALLY justified, I am literally the only one posting based off facts and training and not emotions. You are literally trying to break it down into a comparison that anyone who agress with this shooting is hitler like. That is 100% not the case. The only one with a sense of entitlement here is you clowns who cant seem to comprehend what has been shown in the video and verified by actual leos. The fault in this shooting is 100% the owner for not controlling her dog. You can ask any leo and they will say the same thing. Stop basing it off emotion and look at it legally.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
lmao not even once,

Ive posted how it is LEGALLY justified, I am literally the only one posting based off facts and training and not emotions. You are literally trying to break it down into a comparison that anyone who agress with this shooting is hitler like. That is 100% not the case. The only one with a sense of entitlement here is you clowns who cant seem to comprehend what has been shown in the video and verified by actual leos. The fault in this shooting is 100% the owner for not controlling her dog. You can ask any leo and they will say the same thing. Stop basing it off emotion and look at it legally.
You're telling me an entitled cop would support this cowardly entitled cops actions? Fukking shocking...

So, how many times have u and your buds sat around after hours playing cards and railing coke u confiscated and never reported? *******.
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Originally Posted By GhenghisPWN⏩
I guess you could argue the moral high ground on slavery back when it was legal too. Some laws are unjust brah.
He came in the thread preaching removing emotion and applying logic. When he said, "uh...yea it does in fact make it right." He lost his right to debate from a realm of logic.
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
strong equating fully developed, intelligent adult humans to dogs, which are well known to have the mental capacity of a toddler, and cannot use guns or other weapons.

In the case of a person, I would fully support this shooting. In the case of a dog, I refuse to.
you don't need guns or weapons to seriously injure or kill. if this was a person it wouldn't be justified, simply charging at an officer in an aggressive manner?
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Originally Posted By DannStark⏩
i do the same thing the girl did when someone comes to my door, push the door closed while i go get someone/something so that the dog doesn't go running out. I love how the 1 cop is just standing there calmly cause he knows the dog is no threat, but the other idiot has to pull out his gun and shoot it.
^This

The first cop realized the dog was just barking and took out his baton to just hold it back. The second cop over-reacted and took out his gun to shoot first chance he got.

The second cop is trigger happy, and probably new.


Reminds me of that scene in Batman with the new cop.

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Originally Posted By SippinDaTech⏩
you don't need guns or weapons to seriously injure or kill. if this was a person it wouldn't be justified, simply charging at an officer in an aggressive manner?
did you not read what I wrote dude

second line

in the case of a person, I would fully support this shooting. Nowhere did I say you don't need weapons to kill, or that the lack of a weapon means deadly force is not necessary. Just that dogs cannot use weapons, and that video is filmed in the context of apprehending a person who may or may not have a weapon
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Stop basing it off emotion and look at it legally.
Sure as soon as you stop equating legal with Right.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
lmao not even once,

Ive posted how it is LEGALLY justified, I am literally the only one posting based off facts and training and not emotions. You are literally trying to break it down into a comparison that anyone who agress with this shooting is hitler like. That is 100% not the case. The only one with a sense of entitlement here is you clowns who cant seem to comprehend what has been shown in the video and verified by actual leos. The fault in this shooting is 100% the owner for not controlling her dog. You can ask any leo and they will say the same thing. Stop basing it off emotion and look at it legally.
fuk u pig kunt. 100% the owner? yea no

i like the part u left out one cop isnt afraid and pullls out the baton to keep the distance...and the other cop just pulls out the trigger and fires it first chance he gets.

fuking piece of chit leo, u are a fuking scumbag.
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
agreed

quoting this post so that dhawkeye can see it and realize that people are agreeing with me, contrary to what he'd like to believe
uh...so? whats your point? several people disagreed with you at the beginning of this thread too, they simply realize how pointless it is to argue with someone like you. I however am getting loads of enjoyment at work thrashing you. But please continue to post the same crap over and over and act like its any kind of a valid argument
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Originally Posted By EternaLovE⏩
fuk u pig kunt. 100% the owner? yea no

i like the part u left out one cop isnt afraid and pullls out the baton to keep the distance...and the other cop just pulls out the trigger and fires it first chance he gets.

fuking piece of chit leo, u are a fuking scumbag.
ive already addressed that several times. typical no avi pussy

please come call me a pig to my face, would love the lulz
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
did you not read what I wrote dude

second line

in the case of a person, I would fully support this shooting. Nowhere did I say you don't need weapons to kill, or that the lack of a weapon means deadly force is not necessary. Just that dogs cannot use weapons, and that video is filmed in the context of apprehending a person who may or may not have a weapon
you listed the inability to use weapons as a deciding factor in whether or not the shooting would be justified.

and my point stands, if the dog had been a person this would NOT have been justified.

brb shooting someone just because they are yelling and running at you lol okay. the world would be awash in "self defense" shootings everyday if that were the case.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
uh...so? whats your point? several people disagreed with you at the beginning of this thread too, they simply realize how pointless it is to argue with someone like you. I however am getting loads of enjoyment at work thrashing you. But please continue to post the same crap over and over and act like its any kind of a valid argument
So you're on desk duty? Thank fukking god u at least aren't out patrolling in public u stupid fukwit.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
uh...so? whats your point? several people disagreed with you at the beginning of this thread too, they simply realize how pointless it is to argue with someone like you. I however am getting loads of enjoyment at work thrashing you. But please continue to post the same crap over and over and act like its any kind of a valid argument
I'm sorry, didn't you say you're a police officer?

So...instead of protecting and serving, you're miscing?

lol no wonder this country is falling apart. even cops fall victim to the misc.

do some light reading bud....may start with hooked on phonics, work your way up to The Chronicles of Narnia, then revisit this thread and read it through again. most people agree that the shooting was unjustified, legal or not
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
ive already addressed that several times. typical no avi pussy

please come call me a pig to my face, would love the lulz
i dont need anything to prove myself on a website full of unknown strangers.

first off, the 2nd cop who shot him is obviously trigger happy but he chose the gun instead of a baton against a dog u fukin twat. u are fuking ignorant piece of chit pig. hope u die on the streets by another scumbag.
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Originally Posted By GrimesSU⏩
^This

The first cop realized the dog was just barking and took out his baton to just hold it back. The second cop over-reacted and took out his gun to shoot first chance he got.

The second cop is trigger happy, and probably new.


Reminds me of that scene in Batman with the new cop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE08pz1soog
the 2nd cop didnt take out his gun and shoot until the dog charged him, you can hear the dog growl right before he was shot. Seriously are you guus even watching the video? The dog had almost bite the damn cop in the leg wtf is wrong with you plebs
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
uh...yea it does in fact make it right.
Lmaooooooo. I can't believe you are still in here after getting bodied literally all day.
MFC

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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
You are literally trying to break it down into a comparison that anyone who agress with this shooting is hitler like. That is 100% not the case. The only one with a sense of entitlement here is you clowns who cant seem to comprehend what has been shown in the video and verified by actual leos.
Both sides are operating from a position of hyperbole throughout the entire thread. I am saying that the officer, while well within his LEGAL right to shoot, was ethically and morally wrong for shooting. Laws shift and change over time. Hopefully aligning with the will of the public, but too often get created to satisfy some political end. Ethics and morals on the other hand transcend time and period. You don't need to be told that it's wrong to kill someone. You are the one that applied that logical fallacy of legal = right.
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Originally Posted By SippinDaTech⏩
you listed the inability to use weapons as a deciding factor in whether or not the shooting would be justified.

and my point stands, if the dog had been a person this would NOT have been justified.
maybe I worded it confusingly, but I meant to list the inability to use weapons as a determining factor in assessing threat levels, not whether the shooting was justified.

In the case of a human, the chance of a weapon (not including teeth/nails/claws) being present is significantly higher than that of a dog, so the potential threat level when confronting a person is much higher than that of a dog.

If it had been a person who had done everything the same way, I could see how it would be more justified. Crazy person comes out, sees two cops, stops in front of one, and runs towards the other for no apparent reason? That's suspect. But only because humans can communicate their feelings, as opposed to dogs only being able to act them out. But of course, no two cops would take that shot unless absolutely necessary because it is a person, and not a dog.

just lol @ dhawkeye saying I'm repeating stuff. It may seem that way, but only because I'm refuting the same damn arguments you keep making

"it was legal"
"it was justified"
"the dog was running"
you sound like a robot, so it makes sense why you think the way you do.

genuinely curious how old you are
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
the 2nd cop didnt take out his gun and shoot until the dog charged him, you can hear the dog growl right before he was shot. Seriously are you guus even watching the video? The dog had almost bite the damn cop in the leg wtf is wrong with you plebs
both of u lack common sense, the inability to defuse situations in a better way....oh yea not to mention ignorant but i said that already and i'll say it again!

fuking pathetic scum.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
The dog had almost bite the damn cop in the leg wtf is wrong with you plebs
You mean like this?

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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
lol typical.. i wonder if that mod came in here of his own accord or if dhawkeye went running crying to him.
I am we know the answer to that one.
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
I'm sorry, didn't you say you're a police officer?

So...instead of protecting and serving, you're miscing?

lol no wonder this country is falling apart. even cops fall victim to the misc.

do some light reading bud....may start with hooked on phonics, work your way up to The Chronicles of Narnia, then revisit this thread and read it through again. most people agree that the shooting was unjustified, legal or not
im retired... but thanks for worrying about what i do, i make more now in the private sector than i did as a sergeant
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Originally Posted By DieselRobert1⏩
I am we know the answer to that one.
lmao watchout your comments bro

lol @ cesar milan vid. more proof that you don't need to shoot a dog to defuse a hostile situation. fukn lol
Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
im retired... but thanks for worrying about what i do, i make more now in the private sector than i did as a sergeant
so...you are a cop? were a cop? are at work? were at work?

gjdm keeping your own bullsht straight
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
maybe I worded it confusingly, but I meant to list the inability to use weapons as a determining factor in assessing threat levels, not whether the shooting was justified.

In the case of a human, the chance of a weapon (not including teeth/nails/claws) being present is significantly higher than that of a dog, so the potential threat level when confronting a person is much higher than that of a dog.

If it had been a person who had done everything the same way, I could see how it would be more justified. Crazy person comes out, sees two cops, stops in front of one, and runs towards the other for no apparent reason? That's suspect. But only because humans can communicate their feelings, as opposed to dogs only being able to act them out. But of course, no two cops would take that shot unless absolutely necessary because it is a person, and not a dog.
Although I agree with your logic, I don't think a shooting like what you described would be justified legally or even morally. If the public reacts so poorly to justified shootings like those involving Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, etc where it was proven and the facts show the person was actively attempting to kill or greatly injure the officer/person, I can only imagine the reaction to an officer shooting someone who simply lunges at an officer while verbally threatening or yelling and not causing any physical harm.

I also am not saying the officer made the right decision. Personally I think he overreacted, BUT, in the scope of the law he will be protected since a dog's life is valued lower than that of a humans. I believe there should be repercussions for the officer, perhaps further training, but probably not being fired unless bad decision making is a recurrent issue with him.
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Originally Posted By EternaLovE⏩
both of u lack common sense, the inability to defuse situations in a better way....oh yea not to mention ignorant but i said that already and i'll say it again!

fuking pathetic scum.
right because there is a whole lot of negotiating with a charging dog, legit retards in this thread
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Originally Posted By MoeBettuh⏩
Lmaooooooo. I can't believe you are still in here after getting bodied literally all day.
dont come back and post until you have an IQ over 50 k champ.
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