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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
There's some vaccines you should have, but the MMR can't be taken all in one or you risk ****ing your child's immune system up for life/giving them autism. This is a real thing by the way before any know it all's chime in.
Lol no. Not true at all.
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I am not shocked that a forum full of flat earthers has people that believe that vaccines are evil. Although it's ironic that people who won't trust nutrition info unless there's a study behind it are willing to believe anti-vax bull**** that has zero scientific studies behind it.
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
I am not shocked that a forum full of flat earthers has people that believe that vaccines are evil. Although it's ironic that people who won't trust nutrition info unless there's a study behind it are willing to believe anti-vax bull**** that has zero scientific studies behind it.
Glad you brought that up. No one will fund a study that compares health of the non vaccinated with the vaccinated. Who would it benefit? The closest we have come are smaller studies that point out the side effects of the adjuvants. WE also have the shredded study of William Thompson that I mentioned up thread.

I have yet in all of my study found a single autistic non vaccinated kid. Anecdotal, I know, however I have read of doctors who have practices that treat autistic patients that state the same thing.
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
Glad you brought that up. No one will fund a study that compares health of the non vaccinated with the vaccinated. Who would it benefit? The closest we have come are smaller studies that point out the side effects of the adjuvants. WE also have the shredded study of William Thompson that I mentioned up thread.

I have yet in all of my study found a single autistic non vaccinated kid. Anecdotal, I know, however I have read of doctors who have practices that treat autistic patients that state the same thing.
There's a ton of autistic non-vaxed kids in ******** groups. Things Anti-Vaxers Say in ******** browses anti-vax groups and finds and screenshots **** they say and lots of them have unvaxed autistic kids
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post 1464937111 10-03-2016, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
Glad you brought that up. No one will fund a study that compares health of the non vaccinated with the vaccinated. Who would it benefit? The closest we have come are smaller studies that point out the side effects of the adjuvants. WE also have the shredded study of William Thompson that I mentioned up thread.

I have yet in all of my study found a single autistic non vaccinated kid. Anecdotal, I know, however I have read of doctors who have practices that treat autistic patients that state the same thing.
Firstly, correlation =/= causation.

Secondly, the word autism was coined in around 1911. It's beed used to describe the same problem we use it for now since the 40s.

The first measles vaccine was released in 1963, the MMR was released in 1971.
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
There's a ton of autistic non-vaxed kids in ******** groups. Things Anti-Vaxers Say in ******** browses anti-vax groups and finds and screenshots **** they say and lots of them have unvaxed autistic kids
They WERE pro vax until their kid was injured by a vaccine. Now they are anti vax and vocal on those groups. They got their vax, were injured, now they are trying to save people from the same damn fate. Some of them vaccinated one kid, then won't vaccinate their siblings. NONE of them are non vaxed with autism - that I assure you.

My mom tells me in the 60's and 70's there was no autism and only like 1-2 vaccines. Now the number is 1 in 42 boys will be diagnosed with Autism. Don;t even give me that **** of diagnosis is better. It wasn't until the number of vaccines grew in the 90's, after Reagan signed a bill that prevented vaccine manufacturers to have immunity from being sued that autism began showing up.

Once that law was signed it was go time for the drug companies - they created every vaccine they could think of and mass manufactured them, putting all sorts of garbage in them with no threat of repercussions. I cannot believe more people have not woken up yet. I see it's happening, but damn slow.
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
They WERE pro vax until their kid was injured by a vaccine. Now they are anti vax and vocal on those groups. They got their vax, were injured, now they are trying to save people from the same damn fate. Some of them vaccinated one kid, then won't vaccinate their siblings. NONE of them are non vaxed with autism - that I assure you.
Nope, these mothers were anti-vax and never vaxed their kids. They post for medical advice, and often it's "My autistic 3 year old, unvaxed, has pnuemonia" or something.

You are not a real researcher, because any real researcher believes in science and doesn't believe that ****. If you are a real researcher, publish a peer-reviewed study in a respected medical journal showing the link and I will believe you
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Anti-vaccine people are the reason polio wasn't completely wiped out. Thankfully small pox was.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Firstly, correlation =/= causation.

Secondly, the word autism was coined in around 1911. It's beed used to describe the same problem we use it for now since the 40s.

The first measles vaccine was released in 1963, the MMR was released in 1971.
The first measles shot was a single dose measles. Then the MMR in 1971 sounds about right but there were a whole lot more vaccines introduced into the schedule. It might not be the MMR in and of itself that is causing the brain damage (which is basically what is happening, heavy metal poisoning). It could be the one that puts susceptible kids over the edge.
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Here's a quick google search about unvaccinated autistic kids:http://www.whattoexpect.com/forums/h...th-autism.html
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science...accinated-kids
https://www.verywell.com/unvaccinate...autism-2633214
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Nope, these mothers were anti-vax and never vaxed their kids. They post for medical advice, and often it's "My autistic 3 year old, unvaxed, has pnuemonia" or something.

You are not a real researcher, because any real researcher believes in science and doesn't believe that ****. If you are a real researcher, publish a peer-reviewed study in a respected medical journal showing the link and I will believe you
Here's one, but note: no one is saying vaccines are the ONLY cause of autism. What is believed by most is there is a genetic predisposition to the inability to process the mercury or aluminum (metals), which are the adjuvants, that are in today's vaccines. This is why some receive vaccines with no injury.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21299355

Theoretical aspects of autism: causes--a review.
Abstract
Autism, a member of the pervasive developmental disorders (PDDs), has been increasing dramatically since its description by Leo Kanner in 1943. First estimated to occur in 4 to 5 per 10,000 children, the incidence of autism is now 1 per 110 in the United States, and 1 per 64 in the United Kingdom, with similar incidences throughout the world. Searching information from 1943 to the present in PubMed and Ovid Medline databases, this review summarizes results that correlate the timing of changes in incidence with environmental changes. Autism could result from more than one cause, with different manifestations in different individuals that share common symptoms. Documented causes of autism include genetic mutations and/or deletions, viral infections, and encephalitis following vaccination. Therefore, autism is the result of genetic defects and/or inflammation of the brain. The inflammation could be caused by a defective placenta, immature blood-brain barrier, the immune response of the mother to infection while pregnant, a premature birth, encephalitis in the child after birth, or a toxic environment.
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Here's a quick google search about unvaccinated autistic kids:http://www.whattoexpect.com/forums/h...th-autism.html
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science...accinated-kids
https://www.verywell.com/unvaccinate...autism-2633214
Sorry, I"m not going to take seriously astroturfers. Those Websites are supported by drug companies, indirectly. Autism Speaks is one of them for sure.
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
Here's one, but note: no one is saying vaccines are the ONLY cause of autism. What is believed by most is there is a genetic predisposition to the inability to process the mercury or aluminum (metals), which are the adjuvants, that are in today's vaccines. This is why some receive vaccines with no injury.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21299355

Theoretical aspects of autism: causes--a review.
Abstract
Autism, a member of the pervasive developmental disorders (PDDs), has been increasing dramatically since its description by Leo Kanner in 1943. First estimated to occur in 4 to 5 per 10,000 children, the incidence of autism is now 1 per 110 in the United States, and 1 per 64 in the United Kingdom, with similar incidences throughout the world. Searching information from 1943 to the present in PubMed and Ovid Medline databases, this review summarizes results that correlate the timing of changes in incidence with environmental changes. Autism could result from more than one cause, with different manifestations in different individuals that share common symptoms. Documented causes of autism include genetic mutations and/or deletions, viral infections, and encephalitis following vaccination. Therefore, autism is the result of genetic defects and/or inflammation of the brain. The inflammation could be caused by a defective placenta, immature blood-brain barrier, the immune response of the mother to infection while pregnant, a premature birth, encephalitis in the child after birth, or a toxic environment.
That study doesn't even mention vaccines or "toxins" from the vaccines. The small amount of aluminum found in vaccines is negligible. The mercury found in vaccines is ethylmercury, not methylmercury (http://www.decodedscience.org/ethyl-...erence/25234);ethylmercury is not dangerous, as it does not bioaccumulate, so the tiny amount found in vaccines is 100% harmless (http://www.decodedscience.org/ethyl-...erence/25234/2)
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
Sorry, I"m not going to take seriously astroturfers. Those Websites are supported by drug companies, indirectly. Autism Speaks is one of them for sure.
Check the first link, it's a forum. It's not "big pharma".

So if you are a real researcher (which I highly doubt), do a study and prove us pro-vaxers wrong.
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
There's some vaccines you should have, but the MMR can't be taken all in one or you risk ****ing your child's immune system up for life/giving them autism. This is a real thing by the way before any know it all's chime in.
have you ever even considered the thought that maybe the autism caused the vaccine? idiot
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Originally Posted By TradeKing⏩
Go ahead and take your vax, just don't force me too
ITT - retards like this

Do *******s like you even know how vaccines work? Let alone, basic immunology?
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
The fact that you negged me just because I explained why some parents question vaccinations means you are not open to learning anything. You are only open to spouting off propaganda you have read in newspapers and online.

I don't have time or inclination to teach you how the immune system works, but if you believe ALL vaccines are safe for EVERYONE, by all means, get them all. Don't even read the inserts that TELL you the risks and side effects. (And who the **** do you think you are to tell people to take risks with their health that they are uncomfortable taking?? Didn't Hitler do that? Force medical treatment on unwilling participants??)

I think the Australian government requires them anyway, or else you don't get your government check.

For anyone else reading this who actually DO want to learn something and expand their body of knowledge, this guy has a channel who explains things in the simplest terms, citing sources.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwc...sTXXwS2E8UchmA

Once again, MOST people are not anti vax -- they are for SAFE vaccines.
So many fallacies in your posts. Current Vaccines are safe. 100% of the time, the dose makes the poison(or toxin). Formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum, etc are all naturally occurring in the food we eat, and are present in even much smaller doses in vaccines.
Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
And just because you survived however many shots you have gotten up until now, it doesn't mean you are out of the woods. They have never studied the effects of so many vaccines long term.(by the age of 18, the CDC recommends that children should have gotten 69 doses of 16 vaccines).

So good luck with your vaccines and I don't want to read about you coming on here crying that you have cancer at 40 and not understanding why.

Google SV40 .

If I can make just one person at least research and learn something about this for (huuuuuuge) profit racket, all the negs will be worth it.
Vaccines are not really that profitable. For most companies, vaccines make up 2-3% of their total profit. They could make much more money by selling their over the counter and prescription based drugs.

Your post is automatically invalid based on the SV40 bullchit that you posted. SV40 was only ever present in the oral vaccine created by Albert Sabin. They stopped using this in 1963, and all polio vaccines have been SV40 free since then. There is zero plausible evidence that SV40 causes cancer in humans. Maybe you should research SV40 instead.
Originally Posted By _zman⏩
Again, I have no bias in this argument at all, but I've seen interviews with people that claim otherwise. They claim they saw a distinct change in their child after the vaccine, but are these claims just dismissed? If so, why?



the claims aren't dismissed. The vaccine-autism link was studies heavily. Exactly zero of these credible studies has shown any link between autism and vaccines. Also, every single documentary ever made has had an agenda...especially this one. All information in a documentary should be taken with a grain of salt. Robert Di nero is not a Dr or researcher. The information is no more valid just because he is the one offering it.
Originally Posted By VabaX⏩
Package inserts, really?
To steal a leaf from bigger stronger faster, how does this list of side effects from an insert sound;
Depression, convulsions, anxiety, jaundice, myocardial infarction--which is heart attack--eczema, abscess, vaginal pain, vaginal discharge. Oooooh, sounds serious? What kind of dodgy ass drug could that insert be for? Vitamin fuking C. Package inserts dont mean chit, dumnbass, they're legal documents, not medical advice.
This. Consult your dr about any real concerns over vaccine safety. Anything you put into your body theoretically has a list of side effects the length of your arm...including food/beverages.
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Originally Posted By RougeProdigy⏩
Anti-vaccine people are the reason polio wasn't completely wiped out. Thankfully small pox was.
Bill Gates brought Polio back to India with his OPV (oral polio virus), banned here because it gave people polio. Now India is suing the BM Gates Foundation. Good luck with that.
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Originally Posted By Gt3x24x7⏩
If people want to get vaccines and such for themselves, good for them srs

If one's will is strong and mental health is in good standing, then you will rarely get sick srs
It doesn't matter how healthy your immune system is. If you are exposed to the Polio virus, and you are not vaccinated, then you don't have any antibodies to said virus.

I'm against the government forcing people to do anything...but I'm 100% for mandatory vaccines.
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In 2011, Andrew Wakefield, a leading proponent of one of the main controversies regarding a purported link between autism and vaccines, was found to have been financially motivated to falsify research data and was subsequently stripped of his medical license. In the United States people who refuse vaccines for non medical reasons have made up a large percentage of the cases of measles, and subsequent cases of permanent hearing loss and death caused by the disease.
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The misc has reached an all time low with this thread. Seriously. Being a medical student I've developed an intellectual disability reading some of the garbage BS being posted with no sources. Most of you have no idea how a vaccine is developed, the molecular theory behind understanding the morphology of pathogens (Fungi, Bacteria, Parasites, Viruses) and how these pathogens interact with the extreme complexity of the immune system. There is no doubt that without vaccination, the global burden of disease would be extremely massive and it is because of vaccines that we have largely eradicated diseases that would otherwise be prevalent and incident. Just read some excerpts from this article to begin your research:

http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/2/07-040089/en/

It's from the World Health Organization.

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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
There's some vaccines you should have, but the MMR can't be taken all in one or you risk ****ing your child's immune system up for life/giving them autism. This is a real thing by the way before any know it all's chime in.
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
The first measles shot was a single dose measles. Then the MMR in 1971 sounds about right but there were a whole lot more vaccines introduced into the schedule. It might not be the MMR in and of itself that is causing the brain damage (which is basically what is happening, heavy metal poisoning). It could be the one that puts susceptible kids over the edge.
So why was autism around before either of those vaccines?
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Originally Posted By cmc0108⏩
So many fallacies in your posts. Current Vaccines are safe. 100% of the time, the dose makes the poison(or toxin). Formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum, etc are all naturally occurring in the food we eat, and are present in even much smaller doses in vaccines.




Vaccines are not really that profitable. For most companies, vaccines make up 2-3% of their total profit. They could make much more money by selling their over the counter and prescription based drugs.

Your post is automatically invalid based on the SV40 bullchit that you posted. SV40 was only ever present in the oral vaccine created by Albert Sabin. They stopped using this in 1963, and all polio vaccines have been SV40 free since then. There is zero plausible evidence that SV40 causes cancer in humans. Maybe you should research SV40 instead.



the claims aren't dismissed. The vaccine-autism link was studies heavily. Exactly zero of these credible studies has shown any link between autism and vaccines. Also, every single documentary ever made has had an agenda...especially this one. All information in a documentary should be taken with a grain of salt. Robert Di nero is not a Dr or researcher. The information is no more valid just because he is the one offering it.



This. Consult your dr about any real concerns over vaccine safety. Anything you put into your body theoretically has a list of side effects the length of your arm...including food/beverages.
100% of the time? Really? Why has the vaccine court paid out 3.4 billion to date for vaccine injuries?

SV40 was an EXAMPLE of the **** that vaccines can contain. We are now getting most of them from China, with even lower standards for manufacturing. But hey, shoot em up buddy. Let's see what happens.

And they absolutely make a lot of money from vaccines - 23 billion to be exact and growing once they can make up more for you to take. And you take em all, don't you? If not you are a hippocrite so I hope you take every single ****ing one the CDC wants you to take.

I am not even going to engage you any longer. You are completely brain dead. Go get some more vaccines.
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Originally Posted By fahass2⏩
The misc has reached an all time low with this thread. Seriously. Being a medical student I've developed an intellectual disability reading some of the garbage BS being posted with no sources. Most of you have no idea how a vaccine is developed, the molecular theory behind understanding the morphology of pathogens (Fungi, Bacteria, Parasites, Viruses) and how these pathogens interact with the extreme complexity of the immune system. There is no doubt that without vaccination, the global burden of disease would be extremely massive and it is because of vaccines that we have largely eradicated diseases that would otherwise be prevalent and incident. Just read some excerpts from this article to begin your research:

http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/2/07-040089/en/

It's from the World Health Organization.

This x 1000

Fkn lol @ idiots ITT saying they wouldn't want their kids to have vaccines etc.... "it's my choice".

You do realise that THANKS TO VACCINES, diseases such as polio and smallpox have been eradicated?


Child with smallpox -

Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
So why was autism around before either of those vaccines?
Would love to hear this "redmelly" retard explain this. With actual science of course, not broscience. With credible sources too, not fear-mongering pseudoscientific websites that over-extrapolate data from studies that were not empirically robust in the first place.
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
I have never read such bull**** in my entire life as what is in this post. Treating measles costs $0. What the hell do you think they do? Measles comes with a rash, slight fever, cough - a lot like the cold. There was NEVER a measles epidemic where people were dropping like flies like you gullible pussies believe. Know how I know? Because I look at actual ****ing statistics. Never was there even a fraction of the population dying. There is NO TREATING the measles or chicken pox, for that matter. You wait for the fever to go down because guess what fever means? It means the body temp is heating up to kill the virus.

I have no idea what they spent 10k + per case, but I do know that the majority of those cases were.. wait for it ... people WHO WERE VACCINATED! You won't read that in the Sacbee but when they don't mention that the majority were unvacinated that always means they WERE vaccinated. They wouldn't miss an opportunity to place blame on the unvaccinated.

Back in the late 60's The Brady Bunch sitcom aired an episode where all 6 kids got the measles and they were laughing about it and having a great time. That's how it was until they invented a vaccine for it - just a mild illness, a nuisance. I even have family members who had it *gasp* and they are alive. They even attest to never was it a big deal - just a right of passage to get this illness and receive life long immunity. The vaccine was never necessary.

Since some people never read BOOKS or studies and only get their information from headlines, they will never accept the truth. Keep buying the bull**** and take the vaccines that now come from China.

Here is how serious Measles were before Pharma came out with a vaccine. I think this was the mid 60's when everyone was supposedly dropping dead from measles:

What? Measles was causing over 2.5 million deaths/year prior to the vaccination. A fever means that you're body istryingto fight an infection, not that it is doing so successfully.

Vaccines are not perfect, but I'd be willing to bet that greater than 99% of the people getting treated for measles are those that are unvaccinated. Since you made the claim, you find the citation to back it up. If you can find a legitimate citation to back up your claim, I'll mail you $1000(srs).

Do you get all of your medical advice from the brady bunch?! The measles is still one of the leading causes of death amongst unvaccinated children throughout the world. It is much less severe for children over the age of 5, but still a big deal. Also, just because you have it once, does not grant you a life long immunity.

There is not a single vaccine used in the united states that is made in China. literally zero...not one.

You talk about doing your research and reading books, yet all of your medical advice has come from The Brady Bunch and a youtube video.
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Originally Posted By cmc0108⏩
You talk about doing your research and reading books, yet all of your medical advice has come from The Brady Bunch and a youtube video.


LMFAO @ RedMelly using the Brady Bunch as a "credible source" to discuss measles

Jesus titty-fukking Christ.... I didn't think misc'ers could get any more retarded. Not a SINGLE aspect of his/her post included a discussion about the basic immunological aspects of how vaccines work, antigens etc.

Is this the best you anti-vaxxers have got?
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
Well, you would be able to see one (a study) if they (CDC researchers William Thompson and his team) had not falsified and outright destroyed data. William Thompson is a CDC whistleblower who was a senior scientist at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) who got a sudden pang of guilt and decided to confess to
the link his team found between thimerosal-containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders (including autism) as well as the links between the MMR vaccine and autism in African American males and the MMR vaccine and isolated autism.

Some of our political officials want him on the stand, testifying but right now nothing is happening and the media won't cover it. Actually, something is happening -- the CDC is getting him to write a paper retracting what was said during a recorded conversation. They are hoping the masses don't get wind of it and it will die out and the public will remain ignorant. The movie VAXXED, the one banned at the Tribeca Film Festival covers this.

You can also read about it here;

https://www.focusforhealth.org/dr-br...liam-thompson/

Contrary to popular belief Andrew Wakefield's research never stated that MMR caused autism. He merely pointed out the gut issues associated with autism and mentioned that all of the patients exhibited symptoms after they received the MMR. That was enough for the drug companies to sic Brian Deer (reporter/shill) on him and destroy his career, just for a slight mention.

This entire topic is exhausting because there is so much propaganda out there and it takes hours and hours of reading and research to really understand the immune system, the history of these diseases, and finally the huge sums of money made by pharm companies and their drug dispensers (doctors). If you aren't inclined to do the research on immunity and true HERD IMMUNITY, which never meant immunity from a needle because vaccines do NOT provide immunity. Protection wears off and they are not 100% effective like the the immunity gained from the actual wild virus. At this time a large population of the US is NOT immune. Most adults do not get boosters --- yet where are the outbreaks? I only read about them from time to time happening in small pockets, usually kids who have just started school (newly immunized, shedding). There are no deaths, either.

It really sucks to find out the truth because it is easier just to go along with the herd.
Actually William Thompson never did any of that. He gave verbal testimony that said study was flawed and was not perfect. From this testimony, bits and pieces were taken out of context to create articles like the one you linked.

Also, a site like focus for health is not a credible news/medical source. It's clearly biased, and they're pushing a blatant agenda.
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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious⏩
This x 1000

Fkn lol @ idiots ITT saying they wouldn't want their kids to have vaccines etc.... "it's my choice".

You do realise that THANKS TO VACCINES, diseases such as polio and smallpox have been eradicated?


Child with smallpox -





Would love to hear this "redmelly" retard explain this. With actual science of course, not broscience. With credible sources too, not fear-mongering pseudoscientific websites that over-extrapolate data from studies that were not empirically robust in the first place.
There are so many other areas of Medicine where one could choose to be a skeptic. In fact, the biggest skeptics are scientists and physicians themselves. The amount of debates and arguments on novel research is astounding. People don't realize how much bull**** someone has to go through to get a drug pushed or a clinical disease characterized. With that being said, pick an area of Medicine that deserves scrutiny. Like IVY league professors pushing low impact research in journals based on their name and connections. Psychiatric treatment regimens that are outdate and based on mediocre research. Antibiotic resistance and PHARMA refusing to dump money into it. Antibioitic resistance is a massive crisis and will likely render the entire career of Medicine to a halt. Any surgery requires antibiotics because oppurtunistic pathogens (normal bugs that live within you, gain access under surgical conditions either through incision sites, immunocomprised states or a combination of the two). These normal bugs are becoming antibiotic resistant meaning you go in for a simply surgery with a 99.99% success rate and you can't perform it because you have no usable antiboitics. Instead people want to pick on vaccines which have done so much for this world based on garbage conspiracy theories. To be honest we don't even understand the neuroscience behind autism. We have just intelligently described it. We don't know all the molecular biology behind Autism. We can't make the fallacy of assuming something is a definitive cause. There may be low statistical correlation but not credible cause. Either way, this shouldn't even be a debate. The worst part of all this is it effects all of us. Retards not getting vaccinated allows the potential for bugs that have been kept under control to mutate and develop in human unvaccinated hosts and then **** the rest of the population causing a massive potential for a pandemic. People are too stupid and delusional to realize that. Then they'll wanna suck all of the scientists and doctors dicks and cry to them to help develop a cure when there is a major pandemic. It's so pathetic. Hate on Medicine but the one time you are in a crisis, you'll turn into a little bitch in front of your doctor. I don't see patients lecturing their surgeon who is between them and the possibility of another few years of life. Or taking bull**** to their oncologists when they are trying to cure them of cancer. Physicians are not out there to eradicate the masses lol. They are there to limit preventable disease. Most of our patients are there due to a preventable cause. Not getting vaccinated just adds to that long list. Preventable disease is shifting our focus away from advancing Trauma surgery, congenital disease treatments etc. So many areas of Medicine to critique, boggles my mind people would choose Vaccines.
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They all contracted Rotavirus because they're dirty people. Has nothing to do with vaccinations. Plus Rotavirus is not even deadly. It's just more media propaganda.
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