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Thread: Lmao @ the BS Whey Protein industry

post 1475800741 12-20-2016, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Right or wrong, everyone sounds like a complete idiot whenever this topic comes up.

I especially like the posters who toss in sciency words and numbers they found somewhere to make it sound like they are fukkin' doctor protein.
I mean trying to argue the value of specific sources in terms of digestible content has it's merits. But that is not what the OP is talking about in the slightest. I'd have to agree with you though. The fact that people can't use google to figure out where whey protein comes from blows my mind.
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post 1475801231 12-20-2016, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Zwicker⏩
I can understand the distrust of the fitness/supplement industry, but I never understood why people choose whey protein to attack (unless it's a brand that amino acid spikes, or uses cheaper milk concentrates/whey concentrates).

Surely whey is the one legitimate "supplement." It's just protein with a complete amino acid profile. Sure it doesn't benefit you anymore than egg whites/chicken breast, but it's convenient and relatively cheap. I don't really even consider it a "supplement," but rather just a grocery item...

With all the BS crap out there produced by supplement companies, complete with flimsy/falsified "studies," people choose whey... Lmao.


Edit: Lol'd at "chemical substitute" for protein.
Repped. Whey is food. If you've ever made home made greek yogurt, you'd know that you end up with a ton of whey that separates from the milk. Calling whey a supplement is kind of disingenuous.

If you want to bitch about the supplement industry, why not PWO's, BCAA's, or any of the other retarded crap supplement companies sell?

I'm also confused why so many people say it's "easy" to get all the protein you need. I guess with unlimited time and budget, but for most people with jobs, taking whey is a quick way to make sure you can hit your macro targets.
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Originally Posted By fj123⏩
you need protein powder if you can't get enough protein from other sources for whatever reason
Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
I'm also confused why so many people say it's "easy" to get all the protein you need. I guess with unlimited time and budget, but for most people with jobs, taking whey is a quick way to make sure you can hit your macro targets.
These right here. Anything beyond the scope of these statements and you're asking a product like whey protein powder to do more for you than it is intended to.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
Repped. Whey is food. If you've ever made home made greek yogurt, you'd know that you end up with a ton of whey that separates from the milk. Calling whey a supplement is kind of disingenuous.

If you want to bitch about the supplement industry, why not PWO's, BCAA's, or any of the other retarded crap supplement companies sell?

I'm also confused why so many people say it's "easy" to get all the protein you need. I guess with unlimited time and budget, but for most people with jobs, taking whey is a quick way to make sure you can hit your macro targets.
but but but bro it's processed!!!
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
also I was telling him how you only need about .8g protein/1 lb of bodyweight but so many people think you need to take 1.5g+/1lb of bodyweight...
STRONG THIS.


People don't seem to be able to comprehend this. It is 1-1.5g of proteinPER KILOGRAM, not per pound of weight. Studies have been done on 0.6g-0.8g/per pound, 0.9/lb+ showed 0 benefit in any study on performance or muscle building. And actually, all of that extra protein that your body doesn't need, is converted to fat....


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It is no wonder some people make 0 progress with this stuff.
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post 1475803601 12-20-2016, 08:51 AM
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I agree at 160 I shoot for 100-120 grams. Super high protein diets aren't particularly good for you. If I was dat dering it up I would probably shoot for 160 or more though because I would assume I would be rebuilding a lot more but that would be pure speculation on my part.
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Originally Posted By MyGhettoFantasy⏩
I eat a plethora of whole foods and the number one compliment I get from non-lifters is that I look very healthy. Health is very attractive.
Repped. Health > all.

Just lol if your physique goals come at the expense of your overall health and well-being.
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Originally Posted By HeBrewHammah⏩
And actually, all of that extra protein that your body doesn't need, is converted to fat....
So if I eat nothing but 1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight, which is around 1500 calories @250lbs, I will magically convert that extra protein to fat?

Stunningly stupid
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Originally Posted By ectobruh⏩
Itt op tries to argue that protein shakes are "useless " when he needs one himself.


Edit: protein a chemical? Negged u fkn moron
lol yes protein is a chemical, so is water and everything else on the planet

but who was basic chemistry/biology
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
So if I eat nothing but 1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight, which is around 1500 calories @250lbs, I will magically convert that extra protein to fat?

Stunningly stupid
it will probably be functional fat though.
post 1475820691 12-20-2016, 11:11 AM
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Notice a huge difference if I cram a couple protein shakes in with my diet especially post-workout. Seem to get a lot less sore.
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Whey is a waste of money. The only people who will tell you to take it are those selling it or those getting paid to pretend they take it

I know a few guys with pro cards and they are sponsored by big companies (BPI, Animal) and they legit don't take any supplements other than pre workouts and they get them for free lol
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I'm going to run a study where I take two identical twins and put them on the same routine, but one twin would be eating nothing but whey for protein and the other twin would be eating whole food for protein, and see what they look like after a year or two.
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Increased protein intake doesn't necessarily translate to building muscle. You could probably get swole on a 0g protein diet
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Originally Posted By HeBrewHammah⏩
STRONG THIS.
People don't seem to be able to comprehend this. It is 1-1.5g of proteinPER KILOGRAM, not per pound of weight. Studies have been done on 0.6g-0.8g/per pound, 0.9/lb+ showed 0 benefit in any study on performance or muscle building. And actually, all of that extra protein that your body doesn't need, is converted to fat....
MISC ADVICE:

BRB - 1-1.5g of protonz per pound.
BRB - avg 200 pound male, eats 300g of protonz daily
BRB - 100G+ daily converted to fat and/or completely wasted

It is no wonder some people make 0 progress with this stuff.
"converted to fat" is technically incorrect. Any protein that is not used in muscle building or repair, loses its nitrogen and is available to be used for fuel (converted to ATP) if the body is low on glucose. If the body has sufficient glucose, the protein is then "stored as fat" however, the energy required to convert this protein to a triglyceride is "equivalent" to the energy the protein supplied the body with.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4258944

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22139560
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people saying its not that hard to get your protein in, obviously have never had to count macros.

That said, whey should only be used as a supplement. Real food should be priority. I get a scoop or two a day when I need it. But that's about it.
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Can't help but lmao @ people who say "whey isn't real food"
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Originally Posted By jesusxchrist⏩
Can't help but lmao @ people who say "whey isn't real food"
lmao its literally dried up milk

"but its processed hurr durr!"
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Originally Posted By Ripper908⏩
Whey is a waste of money. The only people who will tell you to take it are those selling it or those getting paid to pretend they take it

I know a few guys with pro cards and they are sponsored by big companies (BPI, Animal) and they legit don't take any supplements other than pre workouts and they get them for free lol
explain how whey is a "waste of money", when it's the cheapest source available you phuking derpazoid
"The only people who will tell you to take it are those selling it or those getting paid to pretend they take it

I know a few guys with pro cards and they are sponsored by big companies (BPI, Animal) and they legit don't take any supplements other than pre workouts and they get them for free lol
is an absolute dogchit argument by the way
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Originally Posted By mythos34⏩
people saying its not that hard to get your protein in, obviously have never had to count macros.
buy a 10 dollar pack of boneless/skinless chicken breast from walmart

cook it all in one shot

boom more than all the protein you need for a day (300 plus grams)
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Originally Posted By jesusxchrist⏩
Can't help but lmao @ people who say "whey isn't real food"
Considering most companies spike their whey with cheap fillers and sell it off as protein.. There may be something to that argument.
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
explain how whey is a "waste of money", when it's the cheapest source available you phuking derpazoid
it's not needed is why it's a waste of money

and most companies lie about protein content
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Originally Posted By Ripper908⏩
it's not needed is why it's a waste of money

and most companies lie about protein content
food is not needed? The cheapest food you can get? what?

whye protein is simply one of many sources you can choose to use. You can say the same thing about any source of protein

brb "you don't need steak"
brb "you don't need eggs"
brb "you don't need chicken"

no chit

The only difference iswhey is the cheapest one
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Originally Posted By mythos34⏩
And lmao at people that say whey is as good as a juicy steak.
agreed, red meat is worse for you
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Originally Posted By CatabolicBrah⏩
protein is protein but getting adequate amount is not easy and no one wants to eat
eggs and chicken breast all the time.
so supplementing with whey is a smart way to go.

EDIT: and what do you mean by whey is a chemical substitute for protein?

whey is as natural as "real food" lmao
I agree that protein is better than no protein but if you think protein powder is on the same level as chicken/eggs or other nutritious whole foods, then son I got some bad news
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
food is not needed? The cheapest food you can get? what?

whye protein is simply one of many sources you can choose to use. You can say the same thing about any source of protein
food contains micronutrients

whey doesnt
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
"converted to fat" is technically incorrect. Any protein that is not used in muscle building or repair, loses its nitrogen and is available to be used for fuel (converted to ATP) if the body is low on glucose. If the body has sufficient glucose, the protein is then "stored as fat" however, the energy required to convert this protein to a triglyceride is "equivalent" to the energy the protein supplied the body with.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4258944

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22139560
Should I have said, converted to a lipid and stored as body fat for later use then? lol



Either way, in an instance where all things are balances as required, it is not stored. But lettuce be real-tea, I am more than willing to bet 99% of the people on this forum, don't fall into the balanced category.
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
this thread isn't about how much food you need to eat, it's about how the 1.supplement industry brainwashes people into buying their productseven though 2.they are chemical garbage and not good for your bodies , and 3.no amount of convincing from me or actual scientific articles will change their mind because they are sucked into the glorified, over-marketed supplement industry
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Originally Posted By Ripper908⏩
food contains micronutrients

whey doesnt
Whey has immunoglobulins.
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