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post 1483719821 02-15-2017, 07:26 PM
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Can the fitness community STOP encouraging deadlifts/compounds?

How many more people need to get injured until the fitness community stops encouraging people to do deadlifts, OHP, squats, or any other compounds?

Srs. I have not seen a SINGLE person in my gym deadlifting right. Every single one of them has an arched back of peace even when they don't even realize it.

Look, the deadlift is a great exercise when done CORRECTLY. If you have a legit personal trainer, or learn how to deadlift at an olympic or powerlifting gym then it's probably awesome to you because you're doing it correctly. But chances are you don't watch furcking YouTube fitness videos or whatever. Reality is that 99% of lifters who do compounds do them really furcking wrong, and only set themselves up for injuries.

Same applies to OHP and other compounds... Your goal at the gym shouldn't be to get a herniated disc, it should be to get stronger or build muscles.

Broscience and fitness culture tells people to do "alpha" compounds, but seriously phuck that. Your health is more important than everything else. Don't worry, you can still get big legs from leg press.

Discuss.
post 1483719901 02-15-2017, 07:27 PM
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post 1483719981 02-15-2017, 07:27 PM
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You are a complete idiot
post 1483719991 02-15-2017, 07:27 PM
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Stopped deadlifting and now I only front squat. Compounds might be great for overall strength, but **** it I just want aesthetics.

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post 1483720071 02-15-2017, 07:28 PM
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post 1483720111 02-15-2017, 07:28 PM
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what's wrong with OHP? I know deads done wrong can be a ticket to snapcity
More like HIV positive crew
post 1483720121 02-15-2017, 07:28 PM
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sigh.

compound exercises should be the core of any persons routine bro. If you see someone about to hurt themselves, intervene. IF they take the advice, great, if not, well its their loss.

It's not the exercise that needs to go, it's idiots who don't know how to lift, or are too hard headed to seek help that need to go.

You're probably a liberal too, huh?
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post 1483720131 02-15-2017, 07:28 PM
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it's the responsibility of the gym goer to learn the moves he's performing. it's not the fitness community's problem or responsibility when someone doesn't bother to learn the move properly before maxing out. you say it yourself; these lifts done correctly are terrific. so take the time to learn them.
post 1483720171 02-15-2017, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted By StandUpAndSlay
You are a complete idiot
I'm gonna put you in the red in 5 minutes if you don't explain yourself.
post 1483720301 02-15-2017, 07:29 PM
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This must be fake bait
post 1483720381 02-15-2017, 07:30 PM
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No, compounds should be done. It is ego lifting that is causing everyone to go snap city.
post 1483720631 02-15-2017, 07:32 PM
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lol @ compound movements in 2017.
post 1483720661 02-15-2017, 07:32 PM
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230lbs 6x5 on dat dare deadlift OP. And plan to continue adding weight until I decide to reset.

Stay weak ****git.
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Originally Posted By SkinnyKappa
I'm gonna put you in the red in 5 minutes if you don't explain yourself.
All of those compound lifts are fantastic for both building strength and size. Just because some people do them wrong doesn't mean that they shouldn't be encouraged. They should just be encouraged to be done correctly, rather than not done at all. It's really not a hard concept to grasp. Good luck building up a comparable posterior chain without squat/deadlift variations. Neglecting the compound lifts will only hinder the speed at which you progress in almost all cases.
post 1483720781 02-15-2017, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Power_Strike92
Stopped deadlifting and now I only front squat. Compounds might be great for overall strength, but **** it I just want aesthetics.
Compounds are very good for aesthetics. I don't agree with you.
419/320/550 @ 165.
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post 1483720801 02-15-2017, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted By IronKrazy
230lbs 6x5 on dat dare deadlift OP. And plan to continue adding weight until I decide to reset.

Stay weak ****git.
Lol weak as ****.

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post 1483720811 02-15-2017, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted By SkinnyKappa
I'm gonna put you in the red in 5 minutes if you don't explain yourself.
I did 13 sets of heavy deadlifts today, tempted to put you in the red for this thread title jackass
Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby, don't you ever put that on me.
post 1483720901 02-15-2017, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted By N0F4tCh1cks
what's wrong with OHP? I know deads done wrong can be a ticket to snapcity
Here's what I see at my gym:

post 1483720991 02-15-2017, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Power_Strike92
Lol weak as ****.
Just started doing high volume with deadlifts. Do not want to go to snap city bruh.
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Funny thing is I tore my bicep doing preacher curls. Should just ban the gym entirely.
post 1483721191 02-15-2017, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Bando
I did 13 sets of heavy deadlifts today, tempted to put you in the red for this thread title jackass
Nice mang. I did 15 sets today with safety squat bar.
Originally Posted By IronKrazy
230lbs 6x5 on dat dare deadlift OP. And plan to continue adding weight until I decide to reset.

Stay weak ****git.
Unless you're a girl then I don't know why you're bragging. No hate, but those numbers aren't something to brag about.
419/320/550 @ 165.
Be like water my friend.
post 1483721441 02-15-2017, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By StandUpAndSlay
All of those compound lifts are fantastic for both building strength and size. Just because some people do them wrong doesn't mean that they shouldn't be encouraged. They should just beencouraged to be done correctly, rather than not done at all. It's really not a hard concept to grasp. Good luck building up a comparable posterior chain without squat/deadlift variations. Neglecting the compound lifts will only hinder the speed at which you progress in almost all cases.
Are you going to personally fix all of their forms? If not, then encouraging them to be done correctly is encouraging them to do compounds incorrectly which is encouraging them to injure themselves.

Disagreed entirely.
post 1483721801 02-15-2017, 07:41 PM
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You should be able to work this out for yourself by the time you're out of your teens tbh

anyone dumb enough to fall for the old "squats and oats, gotta do dead lifts etc" rhetoric deserves what they get
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Originally Posted By Friendly300
Nice mang. I did 15 sets today with safety squat bar.
Training for a comp and grumpy AF, no one should feel as sore and torn as I feel right now lol

OP just struck a chord at the wrong time
Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby, don't you ever put that on me.
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Originally Posted By Friendly300
Unless you're a girl then I don't know why you're bragging. No hate, but those numbers aren't something to brag about.
Not bragging. Just stating I'm doing high volume with the deadlift. As I replied earlier, just started doing high volume with the deadlift and didn't know my limit for 6x5. I'm thinking my true 1RM is somewhere near 375lbs. Maybe 405lbs if I risk it all lol.
post 1483721991 02-15-2017, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By SkinnyKappa
Are you going to personally fix all of their forms? If not, then encouraging them to be done correctly is encouraging them to do compounds incorrectly which is encouraging them to injure themselves.

Disagreed entirely.
"Then encouraging them to be done correctly is encouraging them to do compounds incorrectly"

Lol horrible bait. $100 Paypal says your physique looks like chit and you're weak as piss.
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Compounds are good

I think compounds in the low rep range with crap form (aka lifting too heavy) is the real problem
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post 1483722251 02-15-2017, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Bando
Training for a comp and grumpy AF,no one should feel as sore and torn as I feel right now lol

OP just struck a chord at the wrong time
lol I know that feel

I got heavy squats with high volume (and high volume assistance work) programmed every day until next saturday
Originally Posted By IronKrazy
Not bragging. Just stating I'm doing high volume with the deadlift. As I replied earlier, just started doing high volume with the deadlift and didn't know my limit for 6x5. I'm thinking my true 1RM is somewhere near 375lbs. Maybe 405lbs if I risk it all lol.
You mad brah?
Originally Posted By Ripper908
Compounds are good

I think compounds in the low rep range with crap form (aka lifting too heavy) is the real problem
4 rm or less with **** form, or high reps and losing form on final rep. Most likely recipes for disaster. Even more so if no proper warm up
419/320/550 @ 165.
Be like water my friend.
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How about you stop encouraging people to be pussies OP.

Because that is exactly what this thread is doing.
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