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post 1491916231 04-21-2017, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz
Eh, maybe...I should probably drink my coffee before getting annoyed at the internet. Will rep OP for at least taking my Greek god jab in stride.
Appreciated because that mod is gonna destroy me for chatting **** to him
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Originally Posted By Shawn346
And you were absolutely right too, but the Greek God comment just screams douchebag. Try not to be such a dick.
It's humor. im cocky that's just the way i am
post 1491916421 04-21-2017, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz
Eh, maybe...I should probably drink my coffee before getting annoyed at the internet. Will rep OP for at least taking my Greek god jab in stride.
but...I'm not ready to stop being angry at the internet...
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Originally Posted By Earl-hickey
It IS though

Reccomended maybe not by ripple toes himself but by people on the forum, ALL THE TIME

that's the point of this thread

Noobs wash up on here all the time and say "i want to look like chris hemsworth" or some ****

The advice they get 99% of the time?

Stronglifts or Starting strength for 6 months

I MYSELF got that advice years ago
I got that advice too, bro.

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post 1491916751 04-21-2017, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Earl-hickey
No i posted saying dirty bulking was ****.
I agree, dirty bulking is stupid. I believe I said so in that thread. I just thought you'd spoken from experience in that thread and here.

Of course, if you are not speaking from experience of trying these things on yourself or others, then there's no need to continue this conversation.

Perhaps you could post a thread talking about what you did right, rather than all the things someone could do wrong? This would be more helpful to newbies and experienced people alike.
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Originally Posted By KyleAaron
Weren't you the one posting about your dreamer bulk which no-one had told you to do? Is this connected?

I see a lot of males do this: "I never asked for advice, I just made up some sht myself, and look, it didn't work - hey that advice I got was terrible!"

Rightyo.
The Starting Strength Program as it is written recommends the supreme Dreamer bulk: GOMAD.
People go mental when you recommend adding accessory lifts to SS or changing it in any way. Following it as it is written will put you in supreme T Rex mode with huge fat legs, skinny arms and a pot belly.
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post 1491917071 04-21-2017, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Mrbugly
Just lol @ all of you who think that you have to 'learn' lifting a weight up and down - theres nothing you need to learn apart from dont have terrible form, which you can learn in a few minutes off youtube.

Lmao @ spending a year 'learning' the basic lifts. Pathetic
I haven't seen something this dumb posted in ages. I guess it should be expected from a red noob
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Originally Posted By KyleAaron
I agree, dirty bulking is stupid. I believe I said so in that thread. I just thought you'd spoken from experience in that thread and here.

Of course, if you are not speaking from experience of trying these things on yourself or others, then there's no need to continue this conversation.

Perhaps you could post a thread talking about what you did right, rather than all the things someone could do wrong? This would be more helpful to newbies and experienced people alike.
Alright i'll do that
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Originally Posted By arn710
I haven't seen something this dumb posted in ages. I guess it should be expected from a red noob
I agree, there is a lot more to lifting weights than just picking them up and putting them down. As I've heard someone say before, its like handing someone a knife. A chef and a serial killer are going to use them in completely different ways...same knife though. The best thing I ever did was learn HOW to lift the weights. I think some people are lean and can see their muscles and they never really grow, and just attribute it to "well, I must be at my genetic potential" rather than seeing that they have maxed out the benefits of the way most people lift.
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The low volume army is incredibly annoying.

BRB, 1 set of deadlifts, 3 sets of 5 squats, and 2 sets of Lat Pulldowns is plenty of volume BRAH!
BRB, expecting to make serious gains training 3 times a week, BRAH!
BRB, deadlifts develop your biceps BRAH!

Ridiculous.

PHAT ftw
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry
The Starting Strength Program as it is written recommends the supreme Dreamer bulk: GOMAD.
It seems like you've not readStarting Strength3rd edition.

That's alright, you don't actually have to read books and articles or watch movies or listen to albums to comment on them: this is the internet. But if anyone would like aninformedopinion about it, the course is clear.

But really: Rip's not a nutrition guy, and has said so. His nutrition advice, such as it is, is about as useful as saying, "squat? just put the bar on your back and go up and down" - it's true, but it's far from the whole truth, and will leave most people a bit lost. Being lost but offering directions anyway is, as I said, what the internet is all about. Thus Stevie P's rant.

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Originally Posted By calvilloIsGod
The low volume army is incredibly annoying.

BRB, 1 set of deadlifts, 3 sets of 5 squats, and 2 sets of Lat Pulldowns is plenty of volume BRAH!
BRB, expecting to make serious gains training 3 times a week, BRAH!
BRB, deadlifts develop your biceps BRAH!

Ridiculous.

PHAT ftw
mmmmhm

i did 140 squats today as part of leg day

may have overdone it a bit but 3x5 is a ****ing joke
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Originally Posted By Shawn346
Your 800 deadlift looked easy as ****, nice.
Thanks brother
Originally Posted By Mrbugly
Just lol @ all of you who think that you have to 'learn' lifting a weight up and down - theres nothing you need to learn apart from dont have terrible form, which you can learn in a few minutes off youtube.

Lmao @ spending a year 'learning' the basic lifts. Pathetic
Anyone that reads this post just disregard it completely. Gotta assume it's trolling due to the stupidity levels but if not please don't take this advice regardless of what your training is
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the trick to making it work is icing your ballz at night when you sleep


is this ripped toes ? cuz to me it looks like it works
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Thanks brother



Anyone that reads this post just disregard it completely. Gotta assume it's trolling due to the stupidity levels but if not please don't take this advice regardless of what your training is
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Originally Posted By IntelExchange
the trick to making it work is icing your ballz at night when you sleep


is this ripped toes ? cuz to me it looks like it works
thats called loadsa gear. plus i don't think he did starting strength himself
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Originally Posted By NatureBoyRF
Ripple Toes, starting strength, all of that chit is bullchit.

Start with brosplits or PPL then move to PHAT after 1-2 years.
Oh yea bro, start with brosplits because hitting a muscle group 1x a week is the best way for a newb to gain muscle.

Sciencie totally hasn't proved that full body 3x a week is by far the most efficient workout for a new guy.
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OP, I fell for the stupid "squats will give you mad gainz because dat dere testosterone release" meme and delayed my progress. You mind posting yours or a good bro split? I always lol at the full boy/Upper-Lower thing because all the dudes that I've seen IRL who are aesthetic are on 1x a week splits with lots of volume and 1-2 strength-based exercises.
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Not gonna lie, I ran SS for a year when I first started lifting. Got way stronger but still looked like ****. Decided to hop on an U/L & PPL and look a million times better.

Honestly I believe peoples bodies respond differently to certain routines because my buddy who recommended SS to me only ran that and 5/3/1 and he looked great.

Basically its trial and error until you find out what works best for you.
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Originally Posted By Podunks
I think the Op was just making the thread to point out how retarded it is, that people often push noobs to certain programs, that aren't designed for the noobs goals. At least, that is how I read it.


Still a better love story than twilight.
He's right. Yes SS isn't good for hypertrophy but 90% of the people come here looking to building muscle not to gain strength as their priority.

There's far better program than SS for a noobie to start with that will provide far better gains & they are backed up by science.
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Originally Posted By KyleAaron
I agree, dirty bulking is stupid. I believe I said so in that thread. I just thought you'd spoken from experience in that thread and here.

Of course, if you are not speaking from experience of trying these things on yourself or others, then there's no need to continue this conversation.

Perhaps you could post a thread talking about what you did right, rather than all the things someone could do wrong? This would be more helpful to newbies and experienced people alike.
Meh.

I've bulked ~20-30lbs while on a dirty bulk so far and loving it.

Sure I've gained fat, obviously, but at the same time I don't have to worry about macros & for most skinny people we don't have problems with cutting down, gaining some extra fat is fine. For me at least.

I prefer to dirty bulk & make sure I'm eating enough to "maximize" my gains & not have to worry about what I eat.

It's not for everyone though, a lot of people don't have an easy time like me cutting down
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Originally Posted By lloyd_blankfein
OP, I fell for the stupid "squats will give you mad gainz because dat dere testosterone release" meme and delayed my progress. You mind posting yours or a good bro split? I always lol at the full boy/Upper-Lower thing because all the dudes that I've seen IRL who are aesthetic are on 1x a week splits with lots of volume and 1-2 strength-based exercises.
My current routine is actually pretty poverty tbh (bringing up a few lagging parts so its a bit weird) but here it is

I do 4 pyramid sets for everything

Day 1 Chest + Tris

Flat bench
Incline bench
Flys
Close grip bench
weighted dips
rope push downs
reverse grip pulldowns on flat bar

day 2 back and bis

Deads
Weighted pullups
Lat pulldown
Bent over row
Barbell curl
Rear delt fly
preacher curl
hammer curl
reverse curl

Day 3 shoulders + squats

Seated dumbell press
side lat raise
front raise
upright row

8 sets of various squats

Day 4 Arms
(all the arm stuff i do on bi and tri days again)

Day 5 legs

Front squats
Squats
stiff D/L
leg press
hamstring push machine thing
calf raises

Yeah that's basically it. then i just repeat with no off days, a lot of people will rage at that routine but i've got brilliant results from doing basically that with slight tweaks to bring up any lagging areas
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Originally Posted By sumusikoo
Meh.

I've bulked ~20-30lbs while on a dirty bulk so far and loving it.

Sure I've gained fat, obviously, but at the same time I don't have to worry about macros & for most skinny people we don't have problems with cutting down, gaining some extra fat is fine. For me at least.

I prefer to dirty bulk & make sure I'm eating enough to "maximize" my gains & not have to worry about what I eat.

It's not for everyone though, a lot of people don't have an easy time like me cutting down
Someone like you can get away with dirty bulking.

99% of pps are not as naturally lean as you and should never even consider a dirty bulk.
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You guys are such retards...there is nothing wrong with the program at all.

It teaches you the fundamentals and builds the entire body as a unit rather than morons showing off an 700lbs leg press to only squat 200lbs lulz.

Do the program as it tells you and once you have a 250lbs bench, 350lbs squat and deadlift THEN you can start looking at other things.
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Originally Posted By backinbusiness
You guys are such retards...there is nothing wrong with the program at all.

It teaches you the fundamentals and builds the entire body as a unit rather than morons showing off an 700lbs leg press to only squat 200lbs lulz.

Do the program as it tells you and once you have a 250lbs bench, 350lbs squat and deadlift THEN you can start looking at other things.
But the thing is on that program by the time you can squat 350lbs you can only bench 150 and you look like you have that elephant disease in your legs.

Rip asthetics
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Originally Posted By Earl-hickey
No i posted saying dirty bulking was ****.

judging by my avi in which i look 10 times better than you i think it's obvious i didn't dirty bulk.

Some people talk about it

some people BE about it.

i think we both know each others categories, right.
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Originally Posted By Earl-hickey
But the thing is on that program by the time you can squat 350lbs you can only bench 150 and you look like you have that elephant disease in your legs.

Rip asthetics
lol wot?

I did ss when I started before going to an upper lower then to ppl.

You won't get to 350 squat with ss unless you're the most gifted lifter in the world...

Starting strength, imo, is good because it forces noobs to adapt to high intensity workouts and aggressive progressive overload. And they can properly learn how to perform the 3 lifts, which are usually the most technical and 'dangerous' staple lifts in most routines.

If you do it right, noobs won't be on ss for long. Youll start stalling on lifts.


The only two routines I'd recommend a noob is a variation of SS and lyle mcdonalds upper lower. Nothing else is optimal imo.
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Originally Posted By Earl-hickey
But the thing is on that program by the time you can squat 350lbs you can only bench 150 and you look like you have that elephant disease in your legs.

Rip asthetics
I find it extremely unlikely you will have that much disparity in lifts. Unless you have the worst chest genetics on the planet, it's never going to be like that. The body won't develop like that.

The only way that will happen is if you don't follow the fkn program.

There is zero chance that you doing overhead press and bench twice a week and squat 3x a week will have you squat 350 and bench 150. There's no fkn way.

You're hitting chest and arms twice a week. Plus if you are doing Chins as the program says in phase 2 that is 3x workouts that is hitting the arms
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Originally Posted By lloyd_blankfein
OP, I fell for the stupid "squats will give you mad gainz because dat dere testosterone release" meme and delayed my progress. You mind posting yours or a good bro split? I always lol at the full boy/Upper-Lower thing because all the dudes that I've seen IRL who are aesthetic are on 1x a week splits with lots of volume and 1-2 strength-based exercises.
yea...

Probably because when you reach the point where you're anywhere near what OP or any other shredded guy looks like you won't be enduring a full body session.

Good luck Deadlifting, squatting, benching + a few other exercises all while lifting heavy in a single session.

Generally full body workouts are best for a few months, a year tops, generally half a year, afterwards lower frequency, higher volume like bro splits are recommended
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Originally Posted By backinbusiness
I find it extremely unlikely you will have that much disparity in lifts.Unless you have the worst chest genetics on the planet, it's never going to be like that. The body won't develop like that.

The only way that will happen is if you don't follow the fkn program.

There is zero chance that you doing overhead press and bench twice a week and squat 3x a week will have you squat 350 and bench 150. There's no fkn way.

You're hitting chest and arms twice a week. Plus if you are doing Chins as the program says in phase 2 that is 3x workouts that is hitting the arms
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