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post 1505114261 05-17-2017, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
First, I have no aliases. Is it so hard to believe that multiple people on this board point out how ****ed up you are when you constantly tell everyone how ****ed up you are?
I find it hard to believe that people even bother to point it out anymore.
Might as well go out to the dessert and say "look, sand!"
post 1505114671 05-17-2017, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By deadliftbrah19
Oh so Pondus now has 3 accounts: elterrible and HangerBaby. Just lol.

My trainer measured me at 19% body fat and then I relapsed. Anyone who attacks someone with a serious eating disorder about her size is just plain mean and that is what the Evil One wants so you're playing right into his hands. Good job.

I pray for you to learn compassion and empathy.

I've challenged Pondus to give up all dating apps and to go 6 months no texting, no talking to all women as many marriage and family counselors recommend this after a divorce so that the guy doesn't bring all of his baggage and issues into a 2nd or 3rd marriage.

After a divorce, it is recommended to heal, be alone, self reflect and find out who you really are and what went wrong with your last marriage.

He can't give up the women for a day, much less 6 months. I made it 5 months (2 times so 10 months in total! Once 3 years ago and just recently) no texting, no men, no sex, no nothing. It sucks but you learn to grow as a person and learn who you really are without the distraction of the Tinder messages, texting and constant noise.
Why don't you post about all of the different types of therapy you have to go through some more? Got any more disorders you want to let me know about so I can drop some trigger warnings?

I comment on your weight because you keep mentioning how you can pull very attractive dudes but you are in your 30s getting in internet fights with thots over your minimum wage chef ex boyfriend. You aren't attractive. You can't pull good looking dude. You have the dating acumen (and personality) of an obese cripple with down's syndrome.

You try to chit on other members but every time you post a new thread there end up being like 100+ replies telling you absolutely how deranged and pitiful you are... and you never seem to get it..

Then you go and take a dump on Pondus who is one of the few on this forum that post about stuff other than rotting and giving up or being sad about their height or hairline or something

Why don't you go without dating... forever? You are a mother. You are past your twenties. You get in ******** arguments with your exes new sloot.. lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo
post 1505115651 05-17-2017, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By HangerBaby
Why don't you post about all of the different types of therapy you have to go through some more? Got any more disorders you want to let me know about so I can drop some trigger warnings?

I comment on your weight because you keep mentioning how you can pull very attractive dudes but you are in your 30s getting in internet fights with thots over your minimum wage chef ex boyfriend. You aren't attractive. You can't pull good looking dude. You have the dating acumen (and personality) of an obese cripple with down's syndrome.

You try to chit on other members but every time you post a new thread there end up being like 100+ replies telling you absolutely how deranged and pitiful you are... and you never seem to get it..

Then you go and take a dump on Pondus who is one of the few on this forum that post about stuff other than rotting and giving up or being sad about their height or hairline or something

Why don't you go without dating... forever? You are a mother. You are past your twenties. You get in ******** arguments with your exes new sloot.. lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo
Please put me on ignore. You sound like an angry, bitter, jealous FA and I need positive people in my life.

I have posted proof and Miscer have seen photos of very good looking men 20 years my junior I pulled. But that became an addiction to get with guys who were that good looking.

One looks like Andy Roddick and he was my FWB for 3 years. Another looks like Ronaldo with huge muscles, and also had a high profile job at Google. He and I went on trips together to Carmel and at least 4 nice restaurants. We also trained together so I have no clue what you're talking about.

That attention was negative though as I really got attached spending that type of time with a very attractive and intelligent man.

Funny how the Misc is the only place where men slams me on my looks. The rest of the world is White Knights to the nth degree. Maybe I keep returning to this place because the White Knights give me an inflated ego.
post 1505116261 05-17-2017, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
have you even slept with her?
I'm counting like 4 dates from before and now at least 4 dates.

if you aren't sleeping with her.
WHY?
You are just as bad. I demand an apology for comparing me to drunken, partying women my age. I PURPOSELY made the choice to not follow the path. I see many divorced women living in the house, on alimony and spending their ex husband's money while riding the cawk carousel. I do not believe in alimony and have been working towards make myself self-sufficient by obtaining a permanent job with benefits.

Sheesh here I am seeking professional help like many of you said, and I get thrown under the bus.

If Jesus does not judge me, then who gives you the right to?

2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women.Now what do you say?” 6They were using this question as a trap,in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
First, I have no aliases. Is it so hard to believe that multiple people on this board point out how ****ed up you are when you constantly tell everyone how ****ed up you are?

Second, I have a ton of compassion and empathy, even for you, but what you need is tough love. Not compassion that enables you. Your filter is majorly broken.

Third, I took a year off of dating and I've spent an hour every week with a psychologist for the past two years to get over the damage my ex-wife did to me. I don't have any mental or emotional baggage. I have dealt with it all. Now that I am healthy I'm having a really hard time finding a woman that is equally healthy.

Fourth, stop comparing me to yourself. You are severely damaged. I am not.
You have a classic case of Narcisstic Personality Disorder, and they are attracted to Borderlines. You did not take off a year of dating as you were living with your wife up until about 6 months ago. You were dating chicks with tats and thongs with their butt hanging out on the beach in Santa Cruz while living with your wife at least a year ago. Plus you were married to someone with Borderline Personality Disorder, which means you were in a dysfunctional marriage and thus that trauma affects you.

The fact that you constantly post and brag about Tinder dates shows that you are not ready for dating. Plus why go on Tinder, a hookup app, when you have custody of impressionable children?

You are the one with the broken filter. I actually see a DBT therapist for personality disorders. Do you? No. End of discussion.
post 1505120451 05-17-2017, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By deadliftbrah19
You are just as bad. I demand an apology for comparing me to drunken, partying women my age. I PURPOSELY made the choice to not follow the path. I see many divorced women living in the house, on alimony and spending their ex husband's money while riding the cawk carousel. I do not believe in alimony and have been working towards make myself self-sufficient by obtaining a permanent job with benefits.

Sheesh here I am seeking professional help like many of you said, and I get thrown under the bus.

If Jesus does not judge me, then who gives you the right to?

2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women.Now what do you say?” 6They were using this question as a trap,in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

John 8:2-8
post 1505130291 05-17-2017, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
Read what Jesus says. He does not judge me based on my past sins, he forgives them.
post 1505134261 05-17-2017, 02:43 PM
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Oh well since Jesus says it's ok everyone can just continue to act like cnts!
post 1505142461 05-17-2017, 03:59 PM
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Always mind blowing when people use religion as a way to some how mental gymnastics there way of mental cleansing themselves of any chitty things they've done in their past/present/future, what about the other people you fuked over.....I will remain a "pessimist" as it makes life a lot easier when you know the inevitable in life is coming regardless of what you do or practice, you will have your ups and downs, makes life simpler and helps you maintain focus on the important things.
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post 1505142731 05-17-2017, 04:03 PM
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Hi y'all!

I have been lurking this forum and thread for weeks. Finally got around to making an account and participating. Gotta say, reading this thread is.. a little scary. Not sure if you guys are WAY over thinking how women operate or I and the women I know do all the above and never even realize it.

Anyways, asking for a friend: my friend went out with this guy she found on Bumble twice in the last two weeks. Second date, they had sex. That was last Friday, she texted him Saturday to ask how his day was going, he said "not much". And never started the conversation back up. What does this even mean? She was going to just drop him because he clearly just wants to pump and dump, but the more I read this thread the more I think maybe he's trying to gauge her interest.
They said she's gone too far this time

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post 1505145361 05-17-2017, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu
Not sure if you guys are WAY over thinking how women operate or I and the women I know do all the above and never even realize it.
Both, probably.
That was last Friday, she texted him Saturday to ask how his day was going, he said "not much". And never started the conversation back up. What does this even mean? She was going to just drop him because he clearly just wants to pump and dump, but the more I read this thread the more I think maybe he's trying to gauge her interest.
If he's a miscer, it means he's playing like a hard-to-get 'alpha'. If he's normal, or basically worth continuing with, it means he isn't that interested.

How good looking is he, and are they equal on looks?
On Bumble I imagine there's only a small percentage of top-tier guys even getting messaged.
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post 1505146501 05-17-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
have you even slept with her?
I'm counting like 4 dates from before and now at least 4 dates.

if you aren't sleeping with her.
WHY?
Not sure what to expect from her at this point that is why
post 1505148061 05-17-2017, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Bj1108
Yeah I'd say for sure pull back, let her initiate. Going through a similar situation with a girl I've known for a while now, recently single and expressed interest in me, always had in the past, etc. She's been a total flake since her first meet up which she set up (she had to work) fair enough, happens. I asked her out about a month or so later, was gonna be out with a buddy anyway, said she could join. She said sure, she'd meet me...nothing, not even a "hey I can't make it". Haven't heard from her since. Wasn't too surprised nor did I get upset about it because she's a huge flake, but at the same time not gonna take a thing she says seriously anymore. Actions speak louder than words, especially with women.
So i haven't mentioned anything to her, but we talk constantly (although texts/snapchat) and I def hit on her and she accepts it properly (no friendzone ****) but she hasn't reciprocated in regards to going out for drinks or whatever. Def get along with her but if you were clicking with someone, wouldn't you want to go actually talk to them face to face? I def don't want to drop the girl yet.
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Originally Posted By deadliftbrah19
Please put me on ignore. You sound like an angry, bitter, jealous FA and I need positive people in my life.

I have posted proof and Miscer have seen photos of very good looking men 20 years my junior I pulled. But that became an addiction to get with guys who were that good looking.

One looks like Andy Roddick and he was my FWB for 3 years. Another looks like Ronaldo with huge muscles, and also had a high profile job at Google. He and I went on trips together to Carmel and at least 4 nice restaurants. We also trained together so I have no clue what you're talking about.

That attention was negative though as I really got attached spending that type of time with a very attractive and intelligent man.

Funny how the Misc is the only place where men slams me on my looks. The rest of the world is White Knights to the nth degree. Maybe I keep returning to this place because the White Knights give me an inflated ego.
I am just about one of the only individuals on this forum who don't post bitter FA nonsense, but nice attempt at a deflection.

You are a mentally ill individual who needs to seek inpatient psychiatric care. That much is clear based on your extremely deluded posts.

You also have the same body type as Shrek so I'm not sure why you are still defending your looks. You are on a bodybuilding forum, prepare to be looked at if you post pics.
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Originally Posted By HangerBaby
I am just about one of the only individuals on this forum who don't post bitter FA nonsense, but nice attempt at a deflection.

You are a mentally ill individual who needs to seek inpatient psychiatric care. That much is clear based on your extremely deluded posts.

You also have the same body type as Shrek so I'm not sure why you are still defending your looks. You are on a bodybuilding forum, prepare to be looked at if you post pics.
I like how me and several guys have said to post proof that she is this good looking holy grail woman that gets 8s and 9s but she never does it. Not even through PM. I think it's all bs and even if it's true, her looks won't hold up forever, the woman is damn near 50.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Both, probably.



If he's a miscer, it means he's playing like a hard-to-get 'alpha'. If he's normal, or basically worth continuing with, it means he isn't that interested.

How good looking is he, and are they equal on looks?
On Bumble I imagine there's only a small percentage of top-tier guys even getting messaged.
So.. either way not worth losing sleep over then? I don't actually know what he looks like. She said he's tall and has a very nice body (so I'm reading in between the lines as his face is ok, but nothing to write home about). She's a decent looking girl, tall 5'7 ish and brunette, not fat either. She's only 24 and I think he's in his early 30s though.
They said she's gone too far this time

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And DeadLiftBrah, girl, unsolicited advice from a complete stranger, but you need to just stay out of this thread. It's not good for you and not good for most of the guys you're ****ting on either. I lurked here for 2-3 weeks now, and have not ONCE seen anyone said anything mean to you unprovoked. I'm not saying this as an insult to hurt your feelings (like apparently all the other 20something women do to you), but therapy helps, it's a good way to talk out your frustrations instead of going on some forums and talk **** to everyone in sight.
They said she's gone too far this time

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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu
So.. either way not worth losing sleep over then? I don't actually know what he looks like. She said he's tall and has a very nice body (so I'm reading in between the lines as his face is ok, but nothing to write home about). She's a decent looking girl, tall 5'7 ish and brunette, not fat either. She's only 24 and I think he's in his early 30s though.
I guarantee she's thinking about him. That's the point a lot of the posters ITT have made in the past about the female mentality. He is behaving in a manner (legitimately or not), that he is higher value than her, which in turn will make her wonder and be more attracted.
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Originally Posted By revolution2199
Not sure what to expect from her at this point that is why
so no.
no wonder she is acting the way she is.
She friendzoned you.
gave you a second chance and you still disappointed.

every woman "friend" i have, if i've hung out with them alone, i've banged them.
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu
So.. either way not worth losing sleep over then? I don't actually know what he looks like. She said he's tall and has a very nice body (so I'm reading in between the lines as his face is ok, but nothing to write home about). She's a decent looking girl, tall 5'7 ish and brunette, not fat either. She's only 24 and I think he's in his early 30s though.
Then he doesn't chase.
My best guess.

If she's interested she needs to step up her game or he's onto the next.
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu
Hi y'all!

I have been lurking this forum and thread for weeks. Finally got around to making an account and participating. Gotta say, reading this thread is.. a little scary. Not sure if you guys are WAY over thinking how women operate or I and the women I know doall the above and never even realize it.

Anyways, asking for a friend: my friend went out with this guy she found on Bumble twice in the last two weeks. Second date, they had sex. That was last Friday, she texted him Saturday to ask how his day was going, he said "not much". And never started the conversation back up. What does this even mean? She was going to just drop him because he clearly just wants to pump and dump, but the more I read this thread the more I think maybe he's trying to gauge her interest.
Bold = ding ding ding!

So your friend initiated and you think he's gauging HER interest? No, he's not interested.
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu
And DeadLiftBrah, girl, unsolicited advice from a complete stranger, but you need to just stay out of this thread. It's not good for you and not good for most of the guys you're ****ting on either. I lurked here for 2-3 weeks now, and have not ONCE seen anyone said anything mean to you unprovoked. I'm not saying this as an insult to hurt your feelings (like apparently all the other 20something women do to you), but therapy helps, it's a good way to talk out your frustrations instead of going on some forums and talk **** to everyone in sight.
Thank you for your feedback. However there is a long history with Hayes especially with Pondus that you are unaware of.

I will never tell someone on this forum to suicide, go be institutionalized in a mental hospital or anything that mean or cruel. Hayzeus has told me to kill myself multiple times. Pondus told me to go into a mental hospital which is ridiculous. Even people with schizophrenia aren't hospitalized in today's society.

You will never see me calling someone fat, telling them they should kill themselves, etc. I try to be compassionate and kind. Sometimes I get angry when I'm attacked and I should turn the other check as Jesus says, but I attack back. That's me as a sinner.

Sometimes I miss human touch and engage in sexual sin which I pray daily to take away my desires for sex and touch. I am a sinful person and thankfully our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the only one kind to someone like me when the rest of the world is unkind and not compassionate. He is all I have now, and thankfully daughter is slowly coming around thanks to therapy.

I may become a Missionary, who knows. I pray daily to take me away from this sinful life like Vanity, Prince's protege. After she passed away a year ago, she described looking at herself in the mirror after having sex and drugs with Billy Idol and Motley Crue guys, and said she looked and felt ugly and hated herself. Then she almost died after a ******* overdose, and became a minister. She was much happier the last 10 years of her life and lived close to me, so I've attended her church. She inspired me to leave behind a selfish, hedonistic life.

Satan still pulls at me to return by tempting me with sexual sin, but I am growing more powerful to resist the Evil One.


Unlike most of my friends who in and out of eating disorder hospitals, I have a high-level job and am functioning. They are on permanent disability or have spouses who support them.

Yes therapy is great but it's only once a week and ends next week, then I just do group once a week and no individual therapy.

I disagree with you about the provoking, though. FU3L said "Cringe" about BlackScorpio's texts, I said the exact same and I get thrown under the bus. So it's OK for a guy to be honest on here but not for a female?

There are people quite helpful in this thread who PM me so I come on here to see their PMs.

In real life I am a shy, quiet person. As a former writer, I can express myself better while typing than I can in real life.

All I want deep down is to love and be loved after being in no relationship for 11 years other than sitting alone in my room typing,

but feel lost and scared in a world where I rely on other people to make decisions for me.
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Vick really needs to come back and save this thread. This is becoming pathetic.
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Originally Posted By deadliftbrah19
Thank you for your feedback. However there is a long history with Hayes especially with Pondus that you are unaware of.

I will never tell someone on this forum to suicide, go be institutionalized in a mental hospital or anything that mean or cruel. Hayzeus has told me to kill myself multiple times. Pondus told me to go into a mental hospital which is ridiculous. Even people with schizophrenia aren't hospitalized in today's society.

You will never see me calling someone fat, telling them they should kill themselves, etc. I try to be compassionate and kind. Sometimes I get angry when I'm attacked and I should turn the other check as Jesus says, but I attack back. That's me as a sinner.

Sometimes I miss human touch and engage in sexual sin which I pray daily to take away my desires for sex and touch. I am a sinful person and thankfully our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the only one kind to someone like me when the rest of the world is unkind and not compassionate. He is all I have now, and thankfully daughter is slowly coming around thanks to therapy.

I may become a Missionary, who knows. I pray daily to take me away from this sinful life like Vanity, Prince's protege. After she passed away a year ago, she described looking at herself in the mirror after having sex and drugs with Billy Idol and Motley Crue guys, and said she looked and felt ugly and hated herself. Then she almost died after a ******* overdose, and became a minister. She was much happier the last 10 years of her life and lived close to me, so I've attended her church. She inspired me to leave behind a selfish, hedonistic life.

Satan still pulls at me to return by tempting me with sexual sin, but I am growing more powerful to resist the Evil One.


Unlike most of my friends who in and out of eating disorder hospitals, I have a high-level job and am functioning. They are on permanent disability or have spouses who support them.

Yes therapy is great but it's only once a week and ends next week, then I just do group once a week and no individual therapy.

I disagree with you about the provoking, though.FU3L said "Cringe" about BlackScorpio's texts, I said the exact same and I get thrown under the bus. So it's OK for a guy to be honest on here but not for a female?

There are people quite helpful in this thread who PM me so I come on here to see their PMs.

In real life I am a shy, quiet person. As a former writer, I can express myself better while typing than I can in real life.

All I want deep down is to love and be loved after being in no relationship for 11 years other than sitting alone in my room typing,

but feel lost and scared in a world where I rely on other people to make decisions for me.
People were not attacking you about you agreeing about FU3L about my text, which now I think about it I could have did a better job, it was because you made the outlandish claim you could get 8s and 9s like I have repeatedly said several times already (even though you're probably not a 8 or 9 yourself in terms of looks and personality) and yet you have a faceless picture of yourself and you clearly have mental problems and everyone knows this. Plus you attacked Pondus on his text game and claimed you could do better than he could in terms of dating. Like the other woman said, I think it's time you stop posting on this thread. Didn't Vick tell you to stop posting on here?
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All of the above was when I was drawn to the Dark Side/sinful life. I know I sound like Star Wars but it's truly how it felt, the temptation of sexual sin with attractive men.
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Why is it that when you are prodded about your mental health, you continue on to write essays that could legitimately be used in court during an insanity plea? Lmao
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Once again, it all comes back to getting attention from 20-some bodybuilders.

Damn, I wonder why she posts here....
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Originally Posted By HangerBaby
Why is it that when you are prodded about your mental health, you continue on to write essays that could legitimately be used in court during an insanity plea? Lmao
Strong FA troll. You have no idea about what you are talking about.

You must be mad that my arms are more muscular than yours when I'm 18 years older than you.

See you in the gym.......

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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
so no.
no wonder she is acting the way she is.
She friendzoned you.
gave you a second chance and you still disappointed.

every woman "friend" i have, if i've hung out with them alone, i've banged them.
trying to figure out how to bring it up and how to ask what she wants or feels
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Originally Posted By revolution2199
trying to figure out how to bring it up and how to ask what she wants or feels
you know how i figure it out?
I kiss them.
I take out their teddies and suck on their nipples.
I pull out my cawk and put their hand on it.
I slide my hand down their pants and finger them.

Then i rip their clothes off and take them to pound town.
Unless they decide to give me head first.

you getting it?
You don't ask a woman how she feels or what she wants.
You invite her over for a movie or drinks and try to sleep with her.
You'll find out ASAP what she wants with you.
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