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post 1508271011 06-13-2017, 11:13 AM
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It's not even so much about being intelligent, it's about believing lies that will make you happy

if you can't trick yourself into believing lies then you'll probably be unhappy, seeking the truth is what will kill us all

"God done it, but don't worry he has a plan" will save us all
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post 1508271121 06-13-2017, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By J90
Yeah being stupid is a blessing in disguise. I 100% believe the dumber you are, the happier you are.
This seems somewhat true. Probably related to depressed people being more realistic. Recall my first diagnosed bout of depression and honestly though at the time everything sucks and being sane = depressed.
Originally Posted By Slayermanlet
Every study done on this has found religious people score higher than non believers on 'life satisfaction', 'subjective well being' etc. They also have lower stress and anxiety levels on average. So you're right
Probably because it is comforting to believe there is something other than cold chaos. Interesting take on that near the end of this video:

Originally Posted By NotANun21
Especially the "God has a plan for all of us"

Imagine how powerful you would feel believing that chit... that no matter how bad things are going what is happening was supposed to happen to you because it paves the way for you to reach your destiny in the end.

I wish I could believe... *snip*... I try to and I want to but I can't internalise it
Same. Was raised in it but stuff like the below wrecked it for me.
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Brb god lets millions of children die of diseases annually but he's just waiting on call to answer your prayers.
I believe in love; even though that sounds corny as hell.

I like to believe that our lives are a learning experience; that we experience difficulties but that if we can learn from them we can at least stop repeating the same stupid mistakes. And instead start dealing with other stupid mistakes.

One idea I was exposed to was that our lives are a mess because humans are flawed and miss the mark (sin), but that god can take the mess that is your life and make something beautiful of it if you are open to it.

I think I have a bigger problem with religion than with god...only people that believe the same as I believe and live the same as I live are worthy of an eternal paradise and anyone who is different than me is going to burn. Sounds like petty tribalism to me.
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Originally Posted By katya422
I like to believe that our lives are a learning experience; that we experience difficulties but that if we can learn from them we can at least stop repeating the same stupid mistakes. And instead start dealing with other stupid mistakes.

One idea I was exposed to was that our lives are a mess because humans are flawed and miss the mark (sin), but that god can take the mess that is your life and make something beautiful of it if you are open to it.

I think I have a bigger problem with religion than with god...only people that believe the same as I believe and live the same as I live are worthy of an eternal paradise and anyone who is different than me is going to burn. Sounds like petty tribalism to me.
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post 1508272201 06-13-2017, 11:23 AM
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The old and new Testaments are a collection of stories that describe how to create a civilization. Without them you would not be where you are now.

The phrase "western society" is synonymous with society that comes from the old then new testament. There is no God outside of the society that follows this book, and when you follow this book and live in a society that does, God does have a plan. It's a plan that creates an unending society designed around love and happiness for all who contribute what is needed. It's a metaphorical God representing reality, which is why he never directly blesses you but seems to directly punish. Reality hits you hard and if you do certain things it's going to cause suffering.

Human nature doesn't change. The environment we are in just changes. The archetypes in the bible are just as true today as they ever were. You don't have to be dumb to believe in the Bible, you have to be ignorant to not see it's importance.
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post 1508272611 06-13-2017, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Griffco
The old and new Testaments are a collection of stories that describe how to create a civilization. Without them you would not be where you are now.

The phrase "western society" is synonymous with society that comes from the old then new testament. There is no God outside of the society that follows this book, and when you follow this book and live in a society that does, God does have a plan. It's a plan that creates an unending society designed around love and happiness for all who contribute what is needed. It's a metaphorical God representing reality, which is why he never directly blesses you but seems to directly punish. Reality hits you hard and if you do certain things it's going to cause suffering.

Human nature doesn't change. The environment we are in just changes. The archetypes in the bible are just as true today as they ever were. You don't have to be dumb to believe in the Bible, you have to be ignorant to not see it's importance.
What about the great civilizations of Asia that weren't exposed to Christianity?

Y'all just got cucked into worshiping a magic Jew
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Transference of fear and self-loathing to an authoritarian vessel. It's catharsis. He absorbs their dread with his narrative. Because of this, he's effective at proportion to the amount of certainty he can project. Certain linguistic anthropologists think that religion is a language virus that rewrites pathways in the brain. Dulls critical thinking. -RC
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Yes mainly because I would love to believe that everything was not over when I die. At this point I believe nothing happens after death. This is it and I am wasting it
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Just lol @ everybody yes people who are religious are generally ignorant and follow whatever they were raised with but to think you know 100% there is no god u are equally as dumb
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Originally Posted By Griffco
The old and new Testaments are a collection of stories that describe how to create a civilization. Without them you would not be where you are now.

The phrase "western society" is synonymous with society that comes from the old then new testament. There is no God outside of the society that follows this book, and when you follow this book and live in a society that does, God does have a plan. It's a plan that creates an unending society designed around love and happiness for all who contribute what is needed. It's a metaphorical God representing reality, which is why he never directly blesses you but seems to directly punish. Reality hits you hard and if you do certain things it's going to cause suffering.

Human nature doesn't change. The environment we are in just changes. The archetypes in the bible are just as true today as they ever were. You don't have to be dumb to believe in the Bible, you have to be ignorant to not see it's importance.
Yeah, exactly right

But then we live in an every changing environment/society which has changed into a godless one... and it's impossible to believe now

Civilization ohly works if everyone is on the same page
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Originally Posted By trufflepigg
I think you mean MANKIND lets milliions of children die annually. What did God do? We made this Earth and it's our purpose (imo) to take care of it and ulitimately create heaven on Earth. WTF would be the point if everything was EASY MODE, that's what heaven is for. Actually I believe you just get bored up in Heaven so fuk it let's go fuk around on Earth for a lifetime and see what we can do there. It's all a game, it's the matrix in a sense lol

Also, funny you guys all ragging on religious people (which I a not), but fail to see how Science is thew newest religion and you all believe it on faith, without empirical evidence.

Maybe the amputee's purpose in this life was to learn something about living life with limitations and still seeing the good in things, i dunno...you probably chose this life before you were born. You have a purpose.
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Originally Posted By Dota2Brah
the only thing that i wish for is that persistent 100% positive mood that many religious people have.

they haven't been exposed to vices like alcohol, sex, marijuana, etc etc, so their baseline dopamine levels are so fukin high.
I haven't been exposed to those vices why aren't my baseline dopamine levels fukkin high? I do fap to porn a lot and eat a lot of junk food though.
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Everyone who doesn't believe in god has a very low IQ is probably retarded.
Answer this, Who made you? how did you come into existence ? who made the first human being ?
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Originally Posted By googleccd
Everyone who doesn't believe in god has a very low IQ is probably retarded.
Answer this, Who made you? how did you come into existence ? who made the first human being ?
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OP and all miscers. You do realize that all world creation theories (creation, big bang, etc) are just that. Theories. Nothing can be proven, but there are facts that do help give legitimacy to these theories. Is it just as crazy an idea, that some all powerful being created us and the earth than we are some completely random accident/miracle (odds are near impossible)? It all comes down to faith peeps. Some people choose to believe in a higher power (give their life purpose) and some people decide to believe in nothing. Either way, what someone else believes doesn't hurt you. After all what you believe, is what you believe. I'm agnostic, not sure exactly who or what I believe "god" is. But theres something there, some kind of higher power that we don't understand. This world is way too perfect for it to be a miracle. And by perfect I mean, humans, earths distance from the sun, resources, etc.
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Originally Posted By JtotheIzzo
I haven't been exposed to those vices why aren't my baseline dopamine levels fukkin high? I do fap to porn a lot and eat a lot of junk food though.
Everybody is addicted to something
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lol this guy was one of the most pathetic, miserable human beings I've ever had the displeasure of knowing about


no atheists in a fox hole /thread
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Originally Posted By Sethylis
OP and all miscers. You do realize that all world creation theories (creation, big bang, etc) are just that. Theories. Nothing can be proven, but there are facts that do help give legitimacy to these theories. Is it just as crazy an idea, that some all powerful being created us and the earth than we are some completely random accident/miracle (odds are near impossible)? It all comes down to faith peeps. Some people choose to believe in a higher power (give their life purpose) and some people decide to believe in nothing. Either way, what someone else believes doesn't hurt you. After all what you believe, is what you believe. I'm agnostic, not sure exactly who or what I believe "god" is. But theres something there, some kind of higher power that we don't understand. This world is way too perfect for it to be a miracle. And by perfect I mean, humans, earths distance from the sun, resources, etc.
Big Bang's not just a crazy idea. Take a course in modern physics or even introductory astrophysics and you'll see the amount of scientific evidence for it
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
not sure you.understand how far it can go

as far as those "matrix", "simulation" theories, etc.

you can just replace that with "intelligent being"
no, no you can't

religion is magical thinking- there's a perfect being that's always existed, always will exist, knows everything and can do everything
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Originally Posted By Malik116
Christians have blind faith, Muslims and especially Jews are meant to question or find a error in their respective books.
Is that what they told you?

Let's be honest. Every religion is blind faith
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot
lol this guy was one of the most pathetic, miserable human beings I've ever had the displeasure of knowing about


no atheists in a fox hole /thread
https://ffrf.org/outreach/atheists-in-foxholes

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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
if only the dead could speak, they'd tell you no atheists in fox holes
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I'd rather not be completely ignorant and blind to the world. Can't really blame religious people - 90% of them are brainwashed from birth. What can ya do? Some people break free of the mental shackles but most can't and don't want to. Why would you want to have lived a lie? Better to carry on pretending you believe in that bchit.
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot
if only the dead could speak, they'd tell you no atheists in fox holes
So what about living atheist veterans that have been in combat?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
So what about living atheist veterans that have been in combat?
like they, (or any hard atheist) would admit to praying, too proud for that
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot
like they, (or any hard atheist) would admit to praying, too proud for that
You have firsthand experience I presume?
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If I truly believed in some eternal paradise after death, I don't know how I could ever have a bad day. Brb life is essentially a dress rehearsal. Of course religious people are happier, generally. They are also dumber, too.

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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
You have firsthand experience I presume?
Being in fox hole? No.

But admitting to praying, or hoping God will save you means having to admit that your beliefs are at the very least in conflict. Easier to just keep it to yourself and continue as normal.
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