I sometimes wonder if it will last, I really don't know. I sound indifferent but at the same time I would die for her in an instant.

Sorry for the long posts. Marriage has certainly completely ruined some men. I would never, ever marry a woman less educated than me and earning significantly less money. I spent a fair amount of time in Asia and saw many Western guys in finance pulling in a couple hundred thou easily who basically married peasant girls. Every single such marriage has been a disaster. The women have zero respect for the guys and are driven purely by money. Plus in the country I was in the sloots would get knocked up ASAP then threaten the guy with never seeing their child again unless they agreed to pay exorbitant 'child support' payments.

Generally these guys were marrying younger women though. Younger but not attractive in my eyes.

My wife is literally my best m8. There's not another person on this planet, that I have met, that I can tolerate and enjoy hanging out with every day. Doesn't matter the situation, we can have a good time and enjoy loads of shenanigans. We were both very much grown, mature, and our own persons when we started dating. But completely comfortable with single life beforehand. She is financially independent, and more educated than I.

Don't know when or if kids will enter the picture, but I wouldnt mind.

women and their stupid marriage dreams...

the more girls i date the more i feel il never find one worth marrying. my current girlfriend seems to think she can/will marry me

haha lol...

you see, this is what i was brought up believing a relationship would be. but damn near every girl i date is nuts

The relationship was going great but I can't stand listening to women talk for more than ~15 minutes so I just broke up with her.Srs women talk about the most meaningless **** sometimes and I was just like, is getting laid really worth all this effort?I said fuark that, did a 360 and never looked back

Agreed - complaining, mindless drama, gossip. Rarely anything intellectually stimulating...

Thanks bro. I would advise brahs not to get married. There's no real upside. There wasn't really one for me but she is traditional Catholic so that was the main reason. But no massive downside for me either, financially at least.

My wife is just a year or two younger than me. I don't find many women in lateish thirties as attractive as really young (not too young) sloots. But I wouldn't be banging those sloots anyway.

Wife is super loyal and has supported me through a lot.

I generally enjoy spending time with her but wish I had more guy friends to hang out with (no homo).

Couldn't find a more decent girl with strong values but I have to admit I am somewhat intrigued by the free spirit, hippyish types. Not sure they're good marriage material though.

I could probably see myself being totally sick of marriage at some point down the line. Still not convinced two human beings were supposed to spend like 40 years together and never have sex with other people.

So I'm pretty happy but it's a stable happiness not a whirlwind passion sort of happiness. Which is ok with me at this stage in my life.

I've been lucky. As I say I see what a lot of friends have to put up with in their marriages and it's absolutely fukking astounding. Blows my mind that the guys haven't either topped themselves or killed their wives. It's gruesome in many cases.

I still don't really believe in marriage or monogamy as principles but am happy enough to go along with it at this point.

I guess I wish we both had our own independent social circles, that would be much better. And maybe some hobbies in common. We used to run together but we're both average for our genders so naturally I'm a lot faster than her. She really likes outdoorsy stuff (hiking, etc - and is genuinely into it, not just the claim all sloots make) and I guess I'm more into film, books, music. We try to strike a balance. She went to Sonar with me recently and in return I'll go on some hiking holiday with her.

Hope I've given an honest answer. As I say during the worst arguments I've had the desire to smack her but am sure she's probably wanted to smack me too.

There's really little upside for me though. Nothing much changed after marriage compared to before. I did it cos as I said she's traditional and it made her happy. We had a very cheap but fun wedding but I did spend a decent amount on the ring. That pissed me off. I wanted her to be one of those girls that think diamond engagement rings are stupid. But she isn't and doesn't.

I sometimes wonder if it will last, I really don't know. I sound indifferent but at the same time I would die for her in an instant.

Sorry for the long posts. Marriage has certainly completely ruined some men. I would never, ever marry a woman less educated than me and earning significantly less money. I spent a fair amount of time in Asia and saw many Western guys in finance pulling in a couple hundred thou easily who basically married peasant girls. Every single such marriage has been a disaster. The women have zero respect for the guys and are driven purely by money. Plus in the country I was in the sloots would get knocked up ASAP then threaten the guy with never seeing their child again unless they agreed to pay exorbitant 'child support' payments.

Generally these guys were marrying younger women though. Younger but not attractive in my eyes.

I still don't understand any significant difference between being married vs. being in a relationship.

There doesn't have to be a difference, but in reality there is - statistics for outcomes of children raised by married vs single parents bear this out.

Again though, nobody has to be a statistic and people can obviously be committed without marriage.

GF wants to get married. I don't.

She said she'll break up with me in a year or so if I don't want to and I'm fine with that.

She lied because going into it we said we don't want to get married and she was divorced once before.

We've been dating 2 years. She's older by 6 years, but we get a long great. However the sex fukkn blows most of the time.

Wait until millennials start getting divorced in large numbers. The next couple of decades are going to be brutal for American men compared to the previous couple.

Picture your average millennial working a median income job with student loan payments, mortgage, car payments, expensive health insurance, $0 in savings, etc. then he gets hit with child support and alimony on top of it.

Was worried about opening this thread because of the general attitude towards marriage here. Loved reading the first page.


I legitimately got really, really really really really lucky in my current relationship. VERY smart, hard working, frugal/doesn't like to spend money but makes pretty good money (75k+), gorgeous, tall about 5'10.5 lol, cool family, PERFECT sense of humor. As in... when we hang out, we basically just laugh for the entire day/night. We can't even have a normal phone call without laughing about whatever dumb sh!t we say. Really good body, very skinny lol, naturally really tan. Exact same style/taste in things as I have/in houses/etc. Similar political views, she realizes all the sjw bullsh!t going on and sees some of the things really going on in this country that people don't talk about publicly. Shares a lot of the same opinions. Likes to cook, cleans. Would make an amazing parent and wants to have 3+ kids. Hasn't been around a ton before me (1 super long relationship and kill count of 4), isn't that type. Isn't jealous one bit and is really open, etc.

IDK if that would ever happen for me though since I dislike the vast majority of women, and typical female traits.

Thanks bro. I would advise brahs not to get married. There's no real upside. There wasn't really one for me but she is traditional Catholic so that was the main reason. But no massive downside for me either, financially at least.

My wife is just a year or two younger than me. I don't find many women in lateish thirties as attractive as really young (not too young) sloots. But I wouldn't be banging those sloots anyway.

Wife is super loyal and has supported me through a lot.

I generally enjoy spending time with her but wish I had more guy friends to hang out with (no homo).

Couldn't find a more decent girl with strong values but I have to admit I am somewhat intrigued by the free spirit, hippyish types. Not sure they're good marriage material though.

I could probably see myself being totally sick of marriage at some point down the line. Still not convinced two human beings were supposed to spend like 40 years together and never have sex with other people.

So I'm pretty happy but it's a stable happiness not a whirlwind passion sort of happiness. Which is ok with me at this stage in my life.

I've been lucky. As I say I see what a lot of friends have to put up with in their marriages and it's absolutely fukking astounding. Blows my mind that the guys haven't either topped themselves or killed their wives. It's gruesome in many cases.

I still don't really believe in marriage or monogamy as principles but am happy enough to go along with it at this point.

I guess I wish we both had our own independent social circles, that would be much better. And maybe some hobbies in common. We used to run together but we're both average for our genders so naturally I'm a lot faster than her. She really likes outdoorsy stuff (hiking, etc - and is genuinely into it, not just the claim all sloots make) and I guess I'm more into film, books, music. We try to strike a balance. She went to Sonar with me recently and in return I'll go on some hiking holiday with her.

Hope I've given an honest answer. As I say during the worst arguments I've had the desire to smack her but am sure she's probably wanted to smack me too.

There's really little upside for me though. Nothing much changed after marriage compared to before. I did it cos as I said she's traditional and it made her happy. We had a very cheap but fun wedding but I did spend a decent amount on the ring. That pissed me off. I wanted her to be one of those girls that think diamond engagement rings are stupid. But she isn't and doesn't.

I sometimes wonder if it will last, I really don't know. I sound indifferent but at the same time I would die for her in an instant.

Sorry for the long posts. Marriage has certainly completely ruined some men. I would never, ever marry a woman less educated than me and earning significantly less money. I spent a fair amount of time in Asia and saw many Western guys in finance pulling in a couple hundred thou easily who basically married peasant girls. Every single such marriage has been a disaster. The women have zero respect for the guys and are driven purely by money. Plus in the country I was in the sloots would get knocked up ASAP then threaten the guy with never seeing their child again unless they agreed to pay exorbitant 'child support' payments.

Generally these guys were marrying younger women though. Younger but not attractive in my eyes.

Thanks bro. I would advise brahs not to get married. There's no real upside. There wasn't really one for me but she is traditional Catholic so that was the main reason. But no massive downside for me either, financially at least.

My wife is just a year or two younger than me. I don't find many women in lateish thirties as attractive as really young (not too young) sloots. But I wouldn't be banging those sloots anyway.

Wife is super loyal and has supported me through a lot.

I generally enjoy spending time with her but wish I had more guy friends to hang out with (no homo).

Couldn't find a more decent girl with strong values but I have to admit I am somewhat intrigued by the free spirit, hippyish types. Not sure they're good marriage material though.

I could probably see myself being totally sick of marriage at some point down the line. Still not convinced two human beings were supposed to spend like 40 years together and never have sex with other people.

So I'm pretty happy but it's a stable happiness not a whirlwind passion sort of happiness. Which is ok with me at this stage in my life.

I've been lucky. As I say I see what a lot of friends have to put up with in their marriages and it's absolutely fukking astounding. Blows my mind that the guys haven't either topped themselves or killed their wives. It's gruesome in many cases.

I still don't really believe in marriage or monogamy as principles but am happy enough to go along with it at this point.

I guess I wish we both had our own independent social circles, that would be much better. And maybe some hobbies in common. We used to run together but we're both average for our genders so naturally I'm a lot faster than her. She really likes outdoorsy stuff (hiking, etc - and is genuinely into it, not just the claim all sloots make) and I guess I'm more into film, books, music. We try to strike a balance. She went to Sonar with me recently and in return I'll go on some hiking holiday with her.

Hope I've given an honest answer. As I say during the worst arguments I've had the desire to smack her but am sure she's probably wanted to smack me too.

There's really little upside for me though. Nothing much changed after marriage compared to before. I did it cos as I said she's traditional and it made her happy. We had a very cheap but fun wedding but I did spend a decent amount on the ring. That pissed me off. I wanted her to be one of those girls that think diamond engagement rings are stupid. But she isn't and doesn't.

I sometimes wonder if it will last, I really don't know. I sound indifferent but at the same time I would die for her in an instant.

Sorry for the long posts. Marriage has certainly completely ruined some men. I would never, ever marry a woman less educated than me and earning significantly less money. I spent a fair amount of time in Asia and saw many Western guys in finance pulling in a couple hundred thou easily who basically married peasant girls. Every single such marriage has been a disaster. The women have zero respect for the guys and are driven purely by money. Plus in the country I was in the sloots would get knocked up ASAP then threaten the guy with never seeing their child again unless they agreed to pay exorbitant 'child support' payments.

Generally these guys were marrying younger women though. Younger but not attractive in my eyes.

You make me want to dump mine and find one like yours. IDK if that would ever happen for me though since I dislike the vast majority of women, and typical female traits. What age were you when you met?

I know you're getting applause for this but it sounds like a chit basis for a relationship to me.

A lot of guys, even guys who are active and passionate about what we do don't have a lot in common with women. Very rarely do you meet one where that isn't the case. Dudes, as much as they don't want to admit it, settle a bit for marriage in order to make the woman happy. I know plenty of us give zero fcks if we ever get married but holy hell would it be raining acid upon the earth if the woman thought we didn't ever want to marry them. We do things in order to compromise and make them happy. It sounds like the post we both quoted is a perfect example of that.

Happy relationship with ups and downs. Didn't care about super long term but conceded in order to make wife happy. Welcome to being a man in society.

Agreed - complaining, mindless drama, gossip. Rarely anything intellectually stimulating...

You make me want to dump mine and find one like yours. IDK if that would ever happen for me though since I dislike the vast majority of women, and typical female traits. What age were you when you met?

My wife is literally my best m8. There's not another person on this planet, that I have met, that I can tolerate and enjoy hanging out with every day. Doesn't matter the situation, we can have a good time and enjoy loads of shenanigans. We were both very much grown, mature, and our own persons when we started dating. But completely comfortable with single life beforehand. She is financially independent, and more educated than I.

Don't know when or if kids will enter the picture, but I wouldnt mind.

Getting married was one of the best things that ever happened to me. I can't stress how important it is that you marry the right woman. Before I met my wife i was wandering aimlessly through life. Meeting her and seeing the path she was on inspired me to handle my business. July 7th will be 5 years married and I couldn't imagine my life without her. We both do well financially, no children, probably won't ever have them, we have some common interests and she's always up for trying new things which is super important. At the same time were both individuals as well.
We got married kinda young I was 26 she was 24, but we've been very fortunate that as we continue to become who we are individually were also growing stronger together. My wife is a gem. No doubt the best person I know, wel maybe 2nd best, her mom is a saint.
There's nothing in this world I wouldn't do for my wife, aND I know she feels the same.
All that said, were not perfect. We bicker for sure. To this day however we haven't had a single massive fight. We got married for the right reasons, we see eye to eye on all of life's major issues. Everything else can be handled easily.
I am the man in my relationship aND my wife is the woman. She's a traditionalist . She looks to me to make the decisions and she trusts me. That doesn't mean we don't talk about EVERYTHING. Our communication is on point , we don't keep anything inside if we're not happy about something. We have a ton of fun together and can legit make each other laugh.
Honestly wouldn't wanna do life without her.

I love being married. My wife is fantastic and I wouldn't have it any other way, srs. Got married at 32 though,and we were together for four years before we tied the knot. Having the right woman in life has made a really big difference to my overall sense of wellbeing.

My wife is literally my best m8. There's not another person on this planet, that I have met, that I can tolerate and enjoy hanging out with every day. Doesn't matter the situation, we can have a good time and enjoy loads of shenanigans. We were both very much grown, mature, and our own persons when we started dating.But completely comfortable with single life beforehand. She is financially independent, and more educated than I.

Don't know when or if kids will enter the picture, but I wouldnt mind.

Four pages of happily married miscers and I've never met ONE in real life. I guess everyone really is 6'5" 250 CEO 10k a day Chad on the misc...LOL

I'm over 40 and every married person I know:

1) wouldn't do it again
2) has been divorced
3) is actively thinking about divorce
4) is actively cheating to get their sexual needs met


...and before you say I should get better friends this includes people at my work, people at my church, friends, neighbors etc


Marriage is tuff but there were times and places in history when making it work was easier. Getting it to work in today's climate with this generation of women...fuuuugetttabout it