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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
Always peppered brah...

Uploaded on poverty TinyPic since Imgur doesn't seem to be working for some.

good luck - I am in need of a serious cut and been screwing around the last month with little to show for it. time to get serious and reading this thread helped.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
good luck - I am in need of a serious cut and been screwing around the last month with little to show for it. time to get serious and reading this thread helped.
It's been a grind man. The best choice I made was using MyFitnessPal to keep track of what I'm eating. I was WAY over eating before without even realizing it. I also gradually decreased my calories from 3000-2700-2500 to roughly 2300 ATM so I didn't have a mental breakdown from being starving. I still get hungry, but not to the point of wanting to eat my own arm off at least.

Goodluck and I'm glad this helped a little!
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
It's been a grind man. The best choice I made was using MyFitnessPal to keep track of what I'm eating. I was WAY over eating before without even realizing it. I also gradually decreased my calories from 3000-2700-2500 to roughly 2300 ATM.

Goodluck and I'm glad this helped a little!
that feel when middle aged manlet and need to cut on <2000 calories
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
that feel when middle aged manlet and need to cut on <2000 calories
That's harsh man. I find 2300 very tough now, really hoping I don't need to get to 2000. Added in the extra day of lifting and HIT to keep my food intake higher.

Figure I'd start posting some of my workouts so everyone can see what I usually do in the gym. Today was delt day.

1.) Smith Machine military press/medium grip upright rows/45lb plate raise - Triset. Banged out 5 rounds of 12-15 reps. Hit 225 for 12 on the last set of presses. Smith machine allows me to isolate my delts more I Feel as opposed to regular barbell or standing.
2.) Standing heavy laterals superset with seated straight arm laterals: 4 sets of 10-15 reps
3.) one arm cable side lateral: 3 x 10
4.) seated side lateral superset with machine overhead press (sitting reverse to mimic a BTN press more) 3 x 10-12 reps
5.) Bent over Cable rear delt raises: 4 x 15
6.) Reverse pec dec: 4 x 12-15
7.) Reverse DB delt raises on incline bench (layin on stomach)

Got this done in 50 minutes, then hit 17 minute intervals on elliptical. No stairmaster today because legs are beat up from leg day yesterday.
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Looking lean bro. Keep at it
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Originally Posted By stoverbruce
Looking lean bro. Keep at it
Thanks man! This is the part of the journey that will really test me. I haven't been this lean before and I know the weightloss is going to be 2x as hard now.

Tonight may be a reefed night. Was very drained lifting today. The extreme volume/frequency is definitely a lot to handle. I'm trying to strategically use my reefed during the week. I train Monday - Saturday So I'm thinking Wednesday or Thursday nights to replenish. Friday AM is my volume chest/heavy row day so Thursday would be the best bet I think. Gonna be a lot of experimenting the next 2-3 weeks due to this being new territory for me and not knowing how my body is going to respond to the 6 day split + low calorie.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
thanks big man!

I took your advice and kept my sodium up a little more, and added a day of lifting in. I'm at 6 days a week now with only Sundays off. Just making sure to control the volume with chest and back. Hitting Heavy chest Monday, volume back Tuesday..........then on Friday I have volume chest and heavy rowing/rackpulls.
Lifting more is just going to make the process easier plus lifting is fun AF

You made the right choice
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Originally Posted By arn710
Lifting more is just going to make the process easier plus lifting is fun AF

You made the right choice
I will say that my passion is at an all time high lifting these days. I actually look forward to getting up and going. How do you feel about the days I chose for the workouts? In reference to split and trying to keep muscle groups separated enough, high intensity/low intensity days ect.

Monday - Heavy Chest
Tuesday - Volume Back
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Shoulders
Friday - Heavy Back/Volume chest
Saturday - Arms

I couldn't move the days around much better than that, while trying to give some distance between the heavy days.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
I will say that my passion is at an all time high lifting these days. I actually look forward to getting up and going. How do you feel about the days I chose for the workouts? In reference to split and trying to keep muscle groups separated enough, high intensity/low intensity days ect.

Monday - Heavy Chest
Tuesday - Volume Back
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Shoulders
Friday - Heavy Back/Volume chest
Saturday - Arms

I couldn't move the days around much better than that, while trying to give some distance between the heavy days.
That's what makes dieting so easy. Progress comes quickly. Especially when you're lean and you notice changes frequently

I would incorporate shoulders into your chest days and add another leg day. Personal preference on that one though. My shoulders already overpower my physique and I never train them. Androgen receptor concentration knowmsayin

What you have there looks great to me. Very similar to something I have done in the past. I wish I had time to do that again.
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Originally Posted By arn710
That's what makes dieting so easy. Progress comes quickly. Especially when you're lean and you notice changes frequently

I would incorporate shoulders into your chest days and add another leg day. Personal preference on that one though. My shoulders already overpower my physique and I never train them. Androgen receptor concentration knowmsayin

What you have there looks great to me. Very similar to something I have done in the past. I wish I had time to do that again.
So maybe throw some delts at the end of Monday? Something like: Military Press and dumbbell presses............then on Thursday focus more on isolation? I'd love to do 2 leg days, but like you said time is hard. Sunday is my day with the family and I can't justify taking time to train that day.
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I seriously never train shoulders aside from rear delts so totally your call. I haven't done an OHP in years

I was suggesting you replace that shoulder day with a leg day
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Originally Posted By arn710
I seriously never train shoulders aside from rear delts so totally your call. I haven't done an OHP in years

I was suggesting you replace that shoulder day with a leg day
Gotcha, I'd love to be able to minimize my shoulder work but they lag compared to my chest/back. I wish I was fortunate enough to just hit them with some laterals and bench and they'll grow but the only way I've gotten growth is through insane volume and angles

Thanks as always for the pointers!
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
Gotcha, I'd love to be able to minimize my shoulder work but they lag compared to my chest/back. I wish I was fortunate enough to just hit them with some laterals and bench and they'll grow but the only way I've gotten growth is through insane volume and angles

Thanks as always for the pointers!
I agree with arn and would try to get a 2nd leg day in. Sounds like your chest and back are pretty strong compared to your toher parts so why not take 1 of the 3 days you dedicate to chest and back and gear it towards legs? Just a thought. I'm currently hitting legs twice a week and can see the tear drops coming out more and more each week
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Originally Posted By stoverbruce
I agree with arn and would try to get a 2nd leg day in. Sounds like your chest and back are pretty strong compared to your toher parts so why not take 1 of the 3 days you dedicate to chest and back and gear it towards legs? Just a thought. I'm currently hitting legs twice a week and can see the tear drops coming out more and more each week
Actually not a bad idea......The Friday workout was designed just for extra calorie burning, but I could just do 1 day for chest, 1 for back and 2x legs then. Tuesday and Friday Leg days...
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
Actually not a bad idea......The Friday workout was designed just for extra calorie burning, but I could just do 1 day for chest, 1 for back and 2x legs then. Tuesday and Friday Leg days...
Those are my leg days
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Ok potential new strategy: Granted I can't have my cake and eat it too. I only have 6 days to train, and my time is limited because I only have from 5AM - 615AM in the morning to lift + get in my 15 min of HIT. If I could have longer workouts it wouldn't be so hard, but such is the life of a husband and daddy.

Monday - Chest
Tuesday - Legs (squat focus + quads)
Wednesday - Back
Thursday - Delts
Friday - Legs (Deadlift focus + Hamstrings)
Saturday - Arms

This will give some break to the upper body during the week + I can still get my deadlifts in and space them out from squats enough. Thoughts?
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224.6lbs yesterday morning. 4 more pounds and it will be the lightest I've been since I was 21.

Still at 2300 calories with 4 days of HIT, 6 days of training. Feeling pretty beat up so I'm hesitant to drop my calories more as my progress is definitely slowing.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
224.6lbs yesterday morning. 4 more pounds and it will be the lightest I've been since I was 21.

Still at 2300 calories with 4 days of HIT, 6 days of training. Feeling pretty beat up so I'm hesitant to drop my calories more as my progress is definitely slowing.
Nice dude! Looks like you're cutting the right way and not losing too much muscle by the rate at which your weight is dropping. How are you feeling and how are your strength numbers looking?
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Originally Posted By stoverbruce
Nice dude! Looks like you're cutting the right way and not losing too much muscle by the rate at which your weight is dropping. How are you feeling and how are your strength numbers looking?
My strength on most things is still decent. I repped 315 x 8 on flat bench Monday..... down a lot from when I was 260, but definitely my best at this body weight. Squat has absolutely tanked. Was able to rep 225 on smith machine military press for 12 today, so that has gone up actually.

Overall I'd say a 15% loss in strength, which I'm ok with considering I'm 40lbs lighter. I'm gonna deadlift tomorrow for some heavy sets, haven't done that since I was fat. My last deadlift was 605. Not expecting anywhere near that, but I'd be happy repping 500 for a couple reps.
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Yeah 15% is not bad at all. Those are still pretty impressive numbers
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
I'd be happy repping 500 for a couple reps.
FUKING L-O-L at this ^^^

I got 405 x 8 and that was it. Lower body compound strength is in the gutter. This is the first time I've done over 3 reps of deads in a working set in like 3 years though. Did some low 12" box squats after that to work on hip mobility and strength(LOL at this too, won't even post the weight), and some hammy/lower back work.

Going up to 2700 calories next week. With the volume, frequency and intensity I've been using along with supplementation I believe I'm too low. Past 3 weeks after about 6-7 days I'm ready to die. This is when I added in extra lifting + cardio. I don't want to rely on refeeds, so I'm going to up my portion sizes a little, or maybe add another small snack in.
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No homer, wish you lived closer to me. Would be great inspiration for me for my cut I need to get in on.
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No homer, wish you lived closer to me. Would be great inspiration for me for my cut I need to get in on.
On spread, would be great to have a lifting partner.

I've had many failed cuts in the past, but this was easily my most successful for a few reasons.

- stopped the broscience stuff (gotta eat chicken and plain rice, 6 meals a day !!)
- Counting and tracking macros <-----this is easily the biggest reason for my success. I was overeating like crazy without even knowing it.
- got creative with cooking.
- I eat very bland during the day, and save calories to sometimes make a tasty dinner
- Halo Top Ice Cream <----life saver
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
- stopped the broscience stuff (gotta eat chicken and plain rice, 6 meals a day !!)
- Counting and tracking macros <-----this is easily the biggest reason for my success. I was overeating like crazy without even knowing it.
- got creative with cooking.
- I eat very bland during the day, and save calories to sometimes make a tasty dinner
- Halo Top Ice Cream <----life saver
I personally cant stand eating more than 2-3 times a day, so I just convert into intermittent fasting and just eat 1-2 large meals.

These are a lifesaver if you want to try them out:
https://www.birdseye.com/product/protein-blends-8/

I just add a lb of lean meat and done.....


Counting anything just idk, I lose the focus easy. I love the gym and lifting but sometimes much like today I just want to binge. Bought a pack of beef jerky, 2 gatorade's, and a bag of spicy Cheetos lol


Halo ice cream FTW, just wish it was not the same price as Ben and Jerry's because its hard to make the moral judgment of knowing one has half the cal's as the other but they are the same price lol
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cut from 190s until 158(around 9-10% body fat right now). Thought I had half of that fat to lose was wrong. So sad but at least its over and just started a bulk after a 1 month recomp where I even lost more weight
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Originally Posted By JPF82
I personally cant stand eating more than 2-3 times a day, so I just convert into intermittent fasting and just eat 1-2 large meals.

These are a lifesaver if you want to try them out:
https://www.birdseye.com/product/protein-blends-8/

I just add a lb of lean meat and done.....


Counting anything just idk, I lose the focus easy. I love the gym and lifting but sometimes much like today I just want to binge. Bought a pack of beef jerky, 2 gatorade's, and a bag of spicy Cheetos lol


Halo ice cream FTW, just wish it was not the same price as Ben and Jerry's because its hard to make the moral judgment of knowing one has half the cal's as the other but they are the same price lol
LOL nothing compares to B&J. I salivate looking at the Half Baked while I'm grabbing my Halo Top.

What stores have those Birds Eye things? They look really good, I haven't seen them.

I'd love to do IF, but I train at 5AM, and having my feeding window while I'm at work sucks, and I don't want to wait 6 hours after my lift to have my first meal despite many saying its OK. If I trained at night, I would 100% do IF for the convenience factor.
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cut from 190s until 158(around 9-10% body fat right now). Thought I had half of that fat to lose was wrong. So sad but at least its over and just started a bulk after a 1 month recomp where I even lost more weight
Dude, feels. I learned the hard way that you're always fatter than you think. I thought I'd be good at 240ish....here I am closing in on 220 and now done. Struggle is real.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
What stores have those Birds Eye things? They look really good, I haven't seen them.

I'd love to do IF, but I train at 5AM, and having my feeding window while I'm at work sucks, and I don't want to wait 6 hours after my lift to have my first meal despite many saying its OK. If I trained at night, I would 100% do IF for the convenience factor.
Walmart and most other grocery stores, less than 2$ a bag too. Cannot beat it for real. No longer cooking rice crew


I just feel so much better off when I don't eat. I lift heavier when fasted, feel more energetic. I dig it.
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I learned the hard way that you're always fatter than you think. I thought I'd be good at 240ish....here I am closing in on 220 and now done. Struggle is real.
This is what I am scared of.

6'4 280lbs 18-22% bf if im being harsh on myself.

Goal is 260-270 at/around 8-12% bf
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Scale said 221 two days after my last reefed. Mirror is reporting back good things lately. Sliced open my thumb cutting sweet potatoes, and sliced my index finder on opposite hand from a piece of broke glass hiding in the sink drain. Made gripping for chest day very fun. My left shoulder has been killing me too along with waking up with my hands asleep a lot lately. Hoping I don't have a bulging disk or something going on in my neck (read numb hands is possible indicator)

Leg day tomorrow so hopefully these wounds will heal enough by Wednesday to not hinder back day much.
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