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ยป lol @ all these geeks who look like they barely lift deadlifting 500+ whats the point
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post 1510534121 07-03-2017, 08:23 AM
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I never really felt a reason to go over 405. Even when I was 230 (I'm 200 in my avi, that's my current size). Could I do more weight, sure, but I really don't see a reason to.

I prefer to do more reps of 315 to be honest. Stiff legged I find that less weight has actually produced more results. I stick to 185 for that.
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Lifting for strength =/= lifting for size.



ITT insecure guys who lift purely so other people know they lift. LOL you all are the type to wear the tightest shirt possible and every clothing choice you make before leaving the house is geared towards letting others know you lift.


LMAO
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as an extreme ectomorph i need to hit heavy compounds or id still weigh 110lbs. That being said I have no desire to go over a 3 plate dead and 2 plate squat which are already close to 3x and 2x bw. Still run a 6min mile too.. haters gonna hate.
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Originally Posted By bigmane123
in lifting that heavy ass weight and possibly ****ing up your back if you look like you dont even lift lol nobody knows you lift when you wear a t-shirt

you aint layne norton
Alright well what should I do then? Tell me, enlightenmen me. If there's a way to look good without lifting heavy then recommend a program so us skinny guys can prevent further wasted time and injuries. It's always have been big guys such as yourselves who always preached deadlifts, now it's backwards?
Now I am in no way disagreeing with you. In fact, yours and several other guys who've agreed with you have much better physiques so I am open to any thing you can give to make lifting less harmful.
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Originally Posted By Iwillsavetheday
Alright well what should I do then? Tell me, enlightenmen me. If there's a way to look good without lifting heavy then recommend a program so us skinny guys can prevent further wasted time and injuries. It's always have been big guys such as yourselves who always preached deadlifts, now it's backwards?
Now I am in no way disagreeing with you. In fact, yours and several other guys who've agreed with you have much better physiques so I am open to any thing you can give to make lifting less harmful.
do rack pulls dont go more than 405-515lbs
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Originally Posted By bigmane123
do rack pulls dont go more than 405-515lbs
Any programs you'd recommend?
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DYEL and weak deadlift crew. I'd settle for one or the other.
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post 1510537241 07-03-2017, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Iwillsavetheday
Any programs you'd recommend?
no

do what works for you stop following cookiecutter programs from ppl who dont even use the program they try to pimp you
post 1510537801 07-03-2017, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By bigmane123
no

do what works for you stop following cookiecutter programs from ppl who dont even use the program they try to pimp you
Is that actually true?
post 1510538321 07-03-2017, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Iwillsavetheday
Is that actually true?
yes and you dyel geeks eat it up following bs programs n complicating chit

go into the gym lift to failure 8-12 sets per compound excercise also lift 8-12 sets on access lifts could be 4 sets of each excercise
post 1510538681 07-03-2017, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By bigmane123
yes and you dyel geeks eat it up following bs programs n complicating chit

go into the gym lift to failure 8-12 sets per compound excercise also lift 8-12 sets on access lifts could be 4 sets of each excercise
Wow...I wonder how the guys in nutrition forum would take that information. I am in total favor of flexible self optimized programs, but the nods are considerably less than disapprovals within the realm of "fitness experts". I've always wondered what the point of following strict programs were if progressive overload is all that matters.
post 1510538911 07-03-2017, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted By bigmane123
no

do what works for you stop following cookiecutter programs from ppl who dont even use the program they try to pimp you
I definitely agree with this. Never followed an actual program.
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post 1510539321 07-03-2017, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Iwillsavetheday
Wow...I wonder how the guys in nutrition forum would take that information. I am in total favor of flexible self optimized programs, but the nods are considerably less than disapprovals within the realm of "fitness experts". I've always wondered what the point of following strict programs were if progressive overload is all that matters.
most of those beta geeks barely even lift or have girly abs and no real size would not take advice from them
Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
I definitely agree with this. Never followed an actual program.
dont be a follower lead the pack
post 1510541131 07-03-2017, 09:39 AM
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Where do you guys train where you see all these small people lifting big weights?
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Originally Posted By bigmane123
you aint layne norton
Yeah definitely not since I'm not a lying *******
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post 1510541841 07-03-2017, 09:46 AM
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I do trap bar deadlifts every once in a while, they're alright.
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts
Lifting for strength =/= lifting for size.



ITT insecure guys who lift purely so other people know they lift. LOL you all are the type to wear the tightest shirt possible and every clothing choice you make before leaving the house is geared towards letting others know you lift.


LMAO
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post 1510542401 07-03-2017, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Nonsense916
Yeah definitely not since I'm not a lying *******
hes a geek with muscles
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Misc never fails to amaze, bunch of pussies ITT.
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Originally Posted By Mizzoutiger26
Misc never fails to amaze, bunch of pussies ITT.
Location: South Dakota,

pussy capitol
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Originally Posted By bigmane123
Location: South Dakota,

pussy capitol
Come here and I'll beat your ass with a corn stalk you bloated zyzz loving *******.
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I am really curious to see what bull**** people think and use to explain when they are asked if building strength builds size.

For one thing, I realize that they have dumbed themselves down to the idea that powerlifting is the only way to train for strength, then say bull**** like strength isn't size because they see undeveloped powerlifters.

Ask any accomplished bodybuilder and they will tell you that they are STRONG, and no *******s, it doesn't mean they didn't focus on strength and still got strong, it means they focus on strength gains in high rep ranges. brb kai green is not strong because he only lifts heavy in high rep ranges.

logic, not even once.

and when you post my avi, I will remind you that doesn't automatically make any accomplished bodybuilder weak.
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Deadlifting is definitely not mandatory, there are tons of ways to work around it. Especially if your goal is to just look good/build some strength (not talking about people trying to compete as wrestlers or power lifters, etc.), they aren't even worth it IMO.

Doing them fairly light is one thing, but going heavy for low reps will show diminshed results compared to risk and energy spent doing them. I've seen numerous dudes who can deadlift and squat in the 4 plate range but have chitty upper body strength and still hardly look like they lift in a T-shirt. Newsflash - the moment you leave the gym/get off the misc, no one gives two chits about your deadlift and squat maxes, so don't let your ego hang on them so much.

Also, lol when obvious celltecher bicyclists frogteched to the gills preach anything to lifetime natty lifters as if they're even playing the same game.
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The misc has become a stream of twink threads, FA bullchit, and loling @ people who actually lift.

No wonder this place has become garbage.
I'm back, bitches!
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
The misc has become a stream of twink threads, FA bullchit, and loling @ people who actually lift.

No wonder this place has become garbage.
This.

Can't believe how many of these pussies don't deadlift
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
The misc has become a stream of twink threads, FA bullchit, and loling @ people who actually lift.

No wonder this place has become garbage.
I agree with you, but to be fair, the lifting elitism on here always made the place a cesspool in its own right. You can build a great physique and get strong af without ever doing heavy deads, squats or flat benching, but most people on here obsess over those 3 BB lifts and call anyone who doesn't share those exact views twinks. That elitist lifting bs is no different than the FA/height/hair/etc. threads.
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Originally Posted By Mizzoutiger26
Come here and I'll beat your ass with a corn stalk you bloated zyzz loving *******.
run up and get done up
Originally Posted By northernlights7
Deadlifting is definitely not mandatory, there are tons of ways to work around it. Especially if your goal is to just look good/build some strength (not talking about people trying to compete as wrestlers or power lifters, etc.), they aren't even worth it IMO.

Doing them fairly light is one thing, but going heavy for low reps will show diminshed results compared to risk and energy spent doing them. I've seen numerous dudes who can deadlift and squat in the 4 plate range but have chitty upper body strength and still hardly look like they lift in a T-shirt. Newsflash - the moment you leave the gym/get off the misc, no one gives two chits about your deadlift and squat maxes, so don't let your ego hang on them so much.

Also, lol when obvious celltecher bicyclists frogteched to the gills preach anything to lifetime natty lifters as if they're even playing the same game.
ive been natty for a while dont h4te me cuz you aint me making natty bulklord gains
Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
The misc has become a stream of twink threads, FA bullchit, and loling @ people who actually lift.

No wonder this place has become garbage.
your beard lol
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
I agree with you, but to be fair, the lifting elitism on here always made the place a cesspool in its own right. You can build a great physique and get strong af without ever doing heavy deads, squats or flat benching, but most people on here obsess over those 3 BB lifts and call anyone who doesn't share those exact views twinks. That elitist lifting bs is no different than the FA/height/hair/etc. threads.
I don't see the "Bet you cant deadlift 500lbs pussy!" threads, but almost everyday there's some "lol at lifting xxx and looking like chit" or "Whats the point of being strong" or some such.

Hell, calling someone a twink for not doing one of the big three is usually in response to these kinds of threads.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
I agree with you, but to be fair, the lifting elitism on here always made the place a cesspool in its own right. You can build a great physique and get strong af without ever doing heavy deads, squats or flat benching, but most people on here obsess over those 3 BB lifts and call anyone who doesn't share those exact views twinks. That elitist lifting bs is no different than the FA/height/hair/etc. threads.
It's almost comparable to Left vs Right wing politics
There's always a counter argument to an argument which then has a counter to that counter argument and so on..
It's just an endless cycle.
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Originally Posted By Iwillsavetheday
Wow...I wonder how the guys in nutrition forum would take that information. I am in total favor of flexible self optimized programs, but the nods are considerably less than disapprovals within the realm of "fitness experts". I've always wondered what the point of following strict programs were if progressive overload is all that matters.
The Mountain himself - a top 3 strongest man in the world, who has been ranked #1 before - has said he's never been into following strict lifting programs/routines, and mixes it up with his own ideas all the time. Lifting programs can obviously work, but it definitely isn't a necessary step. Above all, people need to do what actually works best for themselves personally without getting bored of lifting altogether.
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