I only get a 100 or so...But just do calisthenics 3 times a week, not bodybuilding.

protein is not real

Highly unlikely that most people will be in a condition where the body turns protein into body fat though,

I prefer to eat a higher protein diet just because it tastes good and it's satisfying, even though it doesn't result in extra gains. Especially on a cut, a high protein diet (200grams) definitely kills food cravings.

To sum up this retarded thread: eating 0.8 - 1g/lb is fine. If you want to play around and eat less, good for you no one cares.

Whey protein will go down as the biggest horse chit wool ever pulled over peoples eyes

Brb this scoop of powdered milk equals two chicken breasts

Brb if you are friends with sponsored pros theyll tell you off record its bs

Brb people are gullible retards

Yes it's a giant myth, supplement industries of peace, carbs are the goat. Neg low carb cucks on sight crew.

Complete myth.

Strong username to post correlation

And yeah. I'm the same. I feel best on a cut when I eat about 1g/lb protein simply because it's more satiating and leaves my blood sugar more stable than carbs. (I'm one of those who doesn't find fat satiating beyond meeting my minimum).

So what were your personal results of experimenting? What was the most/least amount of protein consumed per day and what was your lean mass and strength levels during those times?

I agree with you on fat being overrated for satiation but carbs satiate me really well especially when combined with a bit of protein e.g. a chicken breast with broc**** will not fill me up at all but if I just add an apple to that it will keep me satisfied for hours. Anti carb propaganda is irritating and keto seems to have a lot of hype at the moment, probably Joe Rogan and his broscience buddies.

You guys are making unsubstantiated blanket statement without due researchs. First, not all whey is created equally. OK, they are "created" equally but they're not processed the same. If they're not processed properly they lose much of their bio-availability.

Second, others are onlypartiallywhey, with a whole lot of other lesser quality proteins and byproducts mixed in. Do more research, tests, and read the labels.Most likely due to the fat contained within it. I've found that the leanest cuts pass through pretty quickly.

'Whey protein is considered a complete protein and contains all 9 essential amino acids.' - internet

I use a scope a day, ON, to bring my prots up to around .8.

I dont want to be wasting money.

Its so convenient. Should I continue?

Absolutely. You can also mix it with milk and get the best of both worlds at an even better bargain.

Carbs influence a lot of things like water retention, glycogen depletion etc. All things that make you instantly "look" bigger. But it's a fugazi, fairy dust. Your body can not survive without fat and protein, it can survive without carbs.. if that tells you something. But I'm biased, my pancreas doesn't even work.

First of all the recommended amount of protein to build muscle is in the range of .75-1.5 grams per pound of lean body mass. A 200lb male at 10% body fat will need a lot more protein then a 200lb male at 20% body fat. At some point someone simplified it to just 1g per 1lb. There is a reason why guys that are jacked & lean are eating extremely high amounts of protein. Closer to 1.5-2.5g of protein per pound of body weight.





You can make gains eating .5 -.75g of protein per pound of body-weight. Its probably not the most efficient for building muscle however.

Well thank you sir.

I just eat my normal meals a day and probably get 100 to 150 depending on the day. Doubt it matters that much.

lol natty delusion strikes again. high protein diets won't do chit

carbs over everything

Check out this article. It's long, but informative. It addresses and confirms/refutes lot of the speculation and broscience ITT.

https://www.strongerbyscience.com/at...rotein-intake/

It leaves out a lot of details and relevant info, but here's the summary for those that don't want or don't have time to read the whole thing:

Daily protein intake averaged 1.5 and 1.4g/kg/d in male and female athletes, respectively (likely a bit more due to underreporting). Current recommendations are 1.3-1.8g/kg/d.

Protein needs do not appear to depend on body weight or amount of lean body mass. Therefore, protein recommendations expressed as g/kg/d may underestimate protein needs for smaller athletes.

Women tend to eat less protein than men (108 versus 90 g/d), but likely need the same absolute amount.

Protein intake correlates with energy intake. Make sure your protein intake remains high when dieting.

Animal-based protein contributed 57% of total protein intake in the athletes we studied, with the remaining 43% originating from plant-based protein.

Animal-based protein is more anabolic when compared to plant-based protein because of a higher essential amino acid content. This can (largely?) be compensated for by eating more plant-based protein.

The majority of protein is consumed during the three main meals: breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Twenty grams of protein in a meal gives a near-maximal increase in protein MPS. Further increasing protein to 40g gives a relatively small additional 10-20% increase in MPS.

Protein intake was below the recommended 20g for 58% of athletes at breakfast, 36% at lunch, and 8% at dinner.

Older adults need more protein than younger adults, and it’s even more important for them to go up to 40g per meal.

An additional protein meal just before sleep improves total protein intake and protein distribution.

The plasma leucine peak following protein ingestion is a major determinant of MPS.

There are no conditions in which branched chain amino acid supplementation appear to be the optimal choice.

Minimalist recommendation (to get the most results with minimal effort): Eat at least 120g of protein per day.

Optimal recommendation (almost all results, considerable effort): Four meals of 40g of protein, spaced out evenly throughout the day (breakfast, lunch, dinner, and pre-sleep), with the majority of protein from animal-based protein sources.

Advanced recommendation (only results matter. Speculative, but there’s some supporting research): In addition to the optimal recommendations, supplement 5g leucine 15-30 minutes before a meal or during a meal.

Are you tracking macro's? If you aren't or aren't eating a premeasured amount of food consistently I doubt its that high.


Most people I know that don't follow a structured diet or count macro's are only eating about 50-80 grams of protein per day. Before I started measuring/weighing my food, even when I was making an effort to consume a 'high protein diet' I was only getting about 90-110 grams of protein per day. And I'll reemphasize that was with an effort to eat more protein then most people do.

Been down the road you're still traveling son. Most definitely false.Any longer than your post?Actually, there may be some benefit during a fast to minimize caloric intake.That's been my experience.

Do you mean whey is ineffective? Or not needed?
Personally getting 42g of easy protein in one shake is great for me.
I get 10kg at for like 180ish aus dollars.
Last me around 6-7 months.
Also I'm aware of how horse **** some of the supplement industry is. So i don't subscribe to most things out there since i don't need it but the whey i'm getting at the price is great.

The way protein content is measured is by nitrogen content, and a lot of companies just add a lot of other aminos to falsify protein content.


There's also been lawsuits for spiking whey with very small amounts of steroids. All that does is bring down your t production without any of the benefits from the steroids.

I get the same gains from 0.5g/lb as I did when I was 1g/lb srs
carbs>ridiculous amounts of protein

No you don't need 1 gram per lb, but consistently eating under 100 g of protein while training hard has really fuked me in the past. For a period I had a very high carb vegan diet that averaged about 80-90 grams of protein per day. I started getting consistently sore after workouts and recovering like chit until I upped my protein. Over 100-120 grams likely makes no noticeable difference in most cases, but you're gonna feel like ass if you undereat protein and train with regularity.

just a whole lotta gluconeogenesis with all those extra aminos boyo

Agree, feel like a low protein diet takes a toll on my recovery.

Pretty much this.

I haven't taken whey protein in over 7 years. I consume minimal dairy eat around 50 grams of protein per day and still making gains. Don't believe all the hype out there. The role of industries and companies is to create demand. Just eat naturally, not "natural" processed foods, and you will be fine so long as you have volume, consistency and resistance.

Finally, don't use that fitness cover model as a goal. You will never get there as a natty. No matter how you count your macros and how superior your training program is. It just ain't gonna happen. If you hear otherwise, it's total BS.