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post 1511106791 07-08-2017, 10:20 AM
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Is protein the biggest myth known to man?

If you are natural and you have normal rates of protein synthesis then is the whole gram per pound of body weight just a load of chit? I always used to think protein and fat were the goat and would neglect carbs. Not as in not eating them but not prioritising them.

This last year I have been hitting the carbs. Pre workout especially and eating more carbs through out the day. On this cut whenever I feel flat I'll just up my carbs a bit and boom I'm back. My body looks better than ever and I'm sure some days I haven't even been eating 100 grams of protein.
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Yes, it is a huge myth. I have dropped to 0.8g/ lb bodyweight with zero negative effects. The rule that you need lots of protein has been propagated by protein supplement companies to sell more product. F*cking lol at the people who aim for 2g/lb.
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post 1511107161 07-08-2017, 10:26 AM
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1g per lb man, not that much to not adhere to it.
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Bro I been knowing that protein **** was a crock.

Yes, great "scientific method" to arrive at their conclusion.

"hey how much do you weigh?"

"200 lbs.?"

"OK so you must need 200g of protein, it makes complete sense!!!"

None of this takes into account things like shape you're in, metabolism, let alone stupid simple concerns like: Does that take into consideration how much of my bodyweight is bones, skin, organs, etc?

This isn't like Magnum PI investigatory work being done here, they're like the next few logical questions one would ask.

I eat hardly any protein daily, aside from 3 eggs, rest is mainly vegetables, and carbs like rice, pasta, etc.

The eggs are maybe 30g protein, probably less, I'd bet most days I eat 50g protein or less.

Yet my muscles are somehow growing.
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post 1511107581 07-08-2017, 10:31 AM
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Under 100g of protein a day. Cut out eating meat on most days too.

Healthy working gut > bombarding your digestive system with antibiotic-ridden meat.

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post 1511107671 07-08-2017, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By AlbinoScience⏩
Yes, it is a huge myth. I have dropped to 0.8g/ lb bodyweight with zero negative effects. The rule that you need lots of protein has been propagated by protein supplement companies to sell more product. F*cking lol at the people who aim for 2g/lb.
no sht. thats the amount recommended for "persons undergoing strength training 3-5 times a week"

personally i feel the best on 1g/lb as allocating more to carbs/fats makes me feel sluggish assuming cals are the same in both cases
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Used to get 1g per lb. I know get like 100g a day give or take any given day, that's down from on average 180g to 200g. No difference in size and strength gains.
post 1511107861 07-08-2017, 10:34 AM
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Idk and idc bc I get "enough" protein with the foods I normally eat. Only thing I've been tracking lately have been carbs.
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post 1511107871 07-08-2017, 10:34 AM
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Yes, 0.8-1 gram per lb of bodyweight is all you need, regardless of whether you're natty or not. I always lmao when I see some guy who weighs like 180-200lbs claiming he eats 300-400 grams of protein a day
post 1511108091 07-08-2017, 10:36 AM
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No whey protein is a bigger myth.

Pretty sure you need at least .5g/lb or you will not have ideal protein synthesis.
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Originally Posted By TheFuarkingBoss⏩
If you are natural and you have normal rates of protein synthesis then is the whole gram per pound of body weight just a load of chit? I always used to think protein and fat were the goat and would neglect carbs. Not as in not eating them but not prioritising them.

This last year I have been hitting the carbs. Pre workout especially and eating more carbs through out the day. On this cut whenever I feel flat I'll just up my carbs a bit and boom I'm back. My body looks better than ever and I'm sure some days I haven't even been eating 100 grams of protein.
I don't think it's a myth.

Over the last few years I started noticing my eyebrows getting thin. I didn't know what that was all about.

Years ago I got a serious injury to the veins in my leg and recently I decided to look into taking high doses of L-Arginine. I started taking 10 grams a day, which is researched as being a good dose, because I wanted to improve blood flow.

So, the L-Arginine has been amazing! It has increased my sex drive to almost annoying levels and made my eyebrows grow back!!

I have been lifting for like 30 years and I was never a big eater, although I put on muscle very fast, and I've done things like be a vegetarian for years, then started eating meat again, but I guess it hasn't been enough. I'm about 225 and I don't come close to eating enough protein on most days. But, after the L-Arginine experiment, which I will keep doing, I have to conclude I'm not getting enough aminos to make my body work as it should.

I have to work out a plan.
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post 1511108191 07-08-2017, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By frump94⏩
Yes, 0.8-1 gram per lb of bodyweight is all you need, regardless of whether you're natty or not. I always lmao when I see some guy who weighs like 180-200lbs claiming he eats 300-400 grams of protein a day
I'm no expert, but I thought guys who bicycle get a big effect from 1.5g/lb or more.
post 1511108211 07-08-2017, 10:38 AM
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no it's definitely not
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Yes it is a myth so that people sell products. You need between 1,2 to 1,7 gr protein per kg of bodyweight

I cant postacsm.org/docs/default-source/brochures/protein-intake-for-optimal-muscle-maintenance.pdf
post 1511108621 07-08-2017, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
I'm no expert, but I thought guys who bicycle get a big effect from 1.5g/lb or more.
Nah, that would be an insane amount. 200-250g for me
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Higher protein intake is much more important on a cut than a bulk. And if you're doing an aggressive deficit you will need significantly more than 0.8 g per pound.

And here's a good read:http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...eting-qa.html/
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A long read, but informative:

https://www.strongerbyscience.com/at...rotein-intake/
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Only 10-15% of kcals from protein is required. Excess protein will either convert to fat or excreted in urine.
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can confirm, been making gains on a high carb low/moderate protein diet

its just that we were fed this bs so much that psychologically i feel i need more protein when in reality i dont
Big facts only.
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1g for 1lb lean body mass.

Anything extra is just a waste.

Zero carbs is a myth.
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I've always heard ~1g per lb of LBM
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.82g/lb is standard ******* op or 1l b/lean body weight go finding that without overestimating
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Im on like 0.6 grams per pound and I'm feeling and looking goat.
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I've been wanting to experiment with 0.6g protein per pound of bodyweight but just can't risk the gains.
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These are the kind of threads that prove exactly how fukin retarded a large majority of the people on the misc are.

its been SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN that more protein does equal better gain.

"but but... I still see results by eating 1g of protein a day..."

Oh wow what? No sht genius. No one ever said that you can't build muscle on a low protein diet, it's just not optimal.


The difference in muscle you'd build by consuming 0.5g/lb vs 1g/lb is minimal, THERE IS a difference but it's very small and you wouldn't notice it, only way to track it would be over a very very extended period of time. (Which is what the scientific studies are there for)


You're literally saying the same as "Why even lift more than once a week when you can build muscle by going to the gym once a week" yea no sht you can, it's just not optimal.
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Originally Posted By sumusikoo⏩
These are the kind of threads that prove exactly how fukin retarded a large majority of the people on the misc are.

its been SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN that more protein does equal better gain.

"but but... I still see results by eating 1g of protein a day..."

Oh wow what? No sht genius. No one ever said that you can't build muscle on a low protein diet, it's just not optimal.


The difference in muscle you'd build by consuming 0.5g/lb vs 1g/lb is minimal, THERE IS a difference but it's very small and you wouldn't notice it, only way to track it would be over a very very extended period of time. (Which is what the scientific studies are there for)
Ok so given you conclusion, what's the ****ing point of getting more protein if it makes next to no noticible difference? Second to that is your avi which demonstrates that you don't belong in this discussion anyway.
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Originally Posted By sumusikoo⏩
These are the kind of threads that prove exactly how fukin retarded a large majority of the people on the misc are.

its been SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN that more protein does equal better gain.

"but but... I still see results by eating 1g of protein a day..."

Oh wow what? No sht genius. No one ever said that you can't build muscle on a low protein diet, it's just not optimal.


The difference in muscle you'd build by consuming 0.5g/lb vs 1g/lb is minimal, THERE IS a difference but it's very small and you wouldn't notice it, only way to track it would be over a very very extended period of time. (Which is what the scientific studies are there for)


You're literally saying the same as "Why even lift more than once a week when you can build muscle by going to the gym once a week" yea no sht you can, it's just not optimal.
Repping the first person to quote this guys avi
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Originally Posted By J90⏩
Repping the first person to quote this guys avi
Lmao I couldn't be bothered to post the pic, called him on that chit anyway tho.
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I find it's best to just eat fcking food when you're hungry and it'll all work itself out in the end

I got to 220lbs, no drugs and never tracked a single macro or measured a single scoop of protein out, no calculations... nothing, just put food in my face and lifted some heavy ass weights every day
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Probably is to a large extent.
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