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post 1513560741 07-27-2017, 08:21 AM
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What are most recommended attachments for an AR-15?

I've had a bare bones AR for a while and can hit targets pretty easily with 100 yards...but not at the rate of fire I would like.
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post 1513561481 07-27-2017, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Clydesdale1991
What are most recommended attachments for an AR-15?

I've had a bare bones AR for a while and can hit targets pretty easily with 100 yards...but not at the rate of fire I would like.
Trigger: Improving your trigger will allow you better control over when your shot breaks, increasing consistency.
Optic: Using a red dot or a magnified optic is easier/allows you to see your target better than an aperture sight
Free Float Rail: Free floating your barrel will increase the consistency of your shots.
Grip: Different grips have different grip angles, a more vertical or larger grip may allow you to more comfortably position your hand or more consistently place your finger on the trigger.
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post 1513562111 07-27-2017, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Clydesdale1991
What are most recommended attachments for an AR-15?
Light
Sling
Optic

Forward grip of choice (vertical full size or short, angled foregrip, etc)
Ambidextrous safety selector
Better trigger
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Pistol grip of choice
post 1513563051 07-27-2017, 08:44 AM
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Little off topic, but do of you guys have recommendations for safes?
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Whats the advantage of this? Is it worth the extra $?

Could a guy turn around and sell this tomorrow for what it all costs?
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post 1513563321 07-27-2017, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40
Little off topic, but do of you guys have recommendations for safes?
Buy a bigger one than you think you need.
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post 1513563511 07-27-2017, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40
Little off topic, but do of you guys have recommendations for safes?
What kind/size and what do you want it to accomplish?

IMO, only mechanical locks, no electronic.

For something that is childproof and nosy-houseguest proof, check out a Costco or Sam's Club or similar and expect to spend $500-$1k or so for something that would require effort to break into or steal outright. Expect it to actually hold about 1/3 as many long guns (rifles/shotguns) as it advertises. If possible, bolt it down (to the floor). Ideally put it somewhere with limited working room around it, such as a corner or a closet or the corner of a walk in closet (less room to swing hammers/axes to break it open, less room to use pry bars to leverage it open). Don't expect it to protect anything in the event of a legitimate fire.

It's probably $4k or so to get an actual "safe" and not a glorified residential security container, so if you want something somewhat legitimate, it will take a lot more money and research to be sure you get what you want (for that look at stuff like american security aka AMSEC).

A lot of guys get a Liberty Safe brand for an inexpensive decent locked storage.
post 1513563631 07-27-2017, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Jesse_l_g
Whats the advantage of this? Is it worth the extra $?

Could a guy turn around and sell this tomorrow for what it all costs?
The advantage is that it has more ergonomic furniture on it, and a fun 1776 flag themed roll mark.

As far as selling it at cost, probably not.
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post 1513563801 07-27-2017, 08:52 AM
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Can I get this in PA?
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post 1513564051 07-27-2017, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Zuggie
Can I get this in PA?
Yes, PA has no restrictions on ownership of AR15s, provided you are 21 years old.
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post 1513564071 07-27-2017, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Jesse_l_g
Could a guy turn around and sell this tomorrow for what it all costs?
No.

It is a buyer's market right now, prices are CHEAP AF. Supply is beyond overflowing. It's too easy and cheap to buy quality stuff new right now, nobody is going to pay new prices for used*


*That said I hear that some people don't realize how easy and economical it is to buy guns and parts online, and also don't really understand why different AR type rifles (or whatever) cost different amounts, in which case, you may be able to get your money back (or better) on some really cheap (as in, cheap, not just inexpensive) rifles if you realize you should have spent more and need to sell the cheap crap to spend a little more on something better
post 1513564271 07-27-2017, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83
Yes, PA has no restrictions on ownership of AR15s, provided you are 21 years old.
Awesome, thanks bro
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post 1513565261 07-27-2017, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Zuggie
Awesome, thanks bro
The only thing you'd need to do is have the lower sent to a local gun shop for the background check. Everything else can go to your house.
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post 1513565431 07-27-2017, 09:09 AM
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Can the ammo be shipped directly to your house?
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post 1513565591 07-27-2017, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted By IlChosenOne




Can the ammo be shipped directly to your house?
As long as you don't live in ****gy-time California, yes.
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post 1513565971 07-27-2017, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40
Little off topic, but do of you guys have recommendations for safes?
Check out Fort Knox safes if you have the $$
I also like Liberty Safes

They make plenty of cheaper options if you are looking at something more to keep kids out of. I'm using a Cannon right now, but when I move next year I'll be looking budgeting for a Fort Knox.
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While just throwing a complete upper and lower together is easy, you'll get way more satisfaction by actually building your first AR. Fairly easy building one even for a first timer. Plenty of how-to vids on youtube. It's like legos for adults.
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40
Little off topic, but do of you guys have recommendations for safes?
I've been thinking about this so I can use my AR for home defense:



https://arma15.com/products
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post 1513567901 07-27-2017, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By jstn0127
While just throwing a complete upper and lower together is easy, you'll get way more satisfaction by actually building your first AR. Fairly easy building one even for a first timer. Plenty of how-to vids on youtube. It's like legos for adults.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83
Yes, the AR15 is an incredibly easy gun to learn on. Recoil is negligible, ammo is cheap and readily available (I think with the rebate you can get ammo at Walmart for under 30 cents/rd), and the ergonomics on the gun are amazing. Upgrading the furniture (handguard, stock, pistol grip) is very easy, and is toolless except for the pistol grip, which requires a screwdriver.

It's a useful firearm for defending yourself at home, and is a ton of fun at the range.



Factors for determining a quality AR15:
-Material:
Receivers and Buffer tube should be 7075 Aluminum
Bolt Carrier should be 8620
Bolt should be Carpenter 158
Barrel should be 4150 Chrome Moly Vanadium and either Nitride (QPQ) or Chrome lined.
-Barrel Twist should be 1:7
-Staking
Properly staked castle nut and gas key

This is an older guide that highlights these points. QPQ wasn't being used in rifles at the time.https://forum.officer.com/forum/equi...y-an-ar-15-huh

While a midlength gas system is preferable, they're harder to find at this pricepoint. Carbine gas systems still run, and have run reliably for decades, they're just slightly less smooth. If your indoor range is at least 25 yards, you can still have a good time with an AR. While it's fun to stretch an AR out, shooting an AR with irons at 25 yds is a good time as well.
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Originally Posted By rtm0004
until you launch a detent into your eyeball or into the deep recesses of the abyss
lmao i have lost so many springs, no detents yet..

just lost a buffer tube retaining pin the other day actually.. fkn thing..
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider
I've been thinking about this so I can use my AR for home defense:



https://arma15.com/products
not trying to store my weapon with all that tension (firing pin/buffer spring)
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Hey OP, seems you know your ****. Best first handgun for a concealed carry?
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Originally Posted By jstn0127
While just throwing a complete upper and lower together is easy, you'll get way more satisfaction by actually building your first AR. Fairly easy building one even for a first timer. Plenty of how-to vids on youtube. It's like legos for adults.
Originally Posted By rtm0004
until you launch a detent into your eyeball or into the deep recesses of the abyss
You'll shoot your eye out!

Though building an AR is simple, you will have to invest in some tools to do it easily, correctly, and without at least marring the parts. The thing is with those who have never own an AR, new builders tend to spend a lot of cash on parts and accessories they don't need. Parts that look tacticool, but have very little function outside of wasting money.

Get a basic AR, built, or at least complete upper/lower, spend the rest on ammo, range time, training, and learn what people actually use irl.

Building an AR is incredibly fun, addicting, and expensive (because it's fun and addicting). Just learn what works, and what doesn't will save you money down the road.
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Originally Posted By Mizzoutiger26
Hey OP, seems you know your ****. Best first handgun for a concealed carry?
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Originally Posted By Mizzoutiger26
Hey OP, seems you know your ****. Best first handgun for a concealed carry?
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