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Final round interview @ Morgan Stanley - Going to act like an alpha sick kunt Chad
08-06-2017, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
You make me feel like Eminem MiscOP is definitely one of the bottom 5 posters on the misc.
In my mind, the rankings go:
1. Deadliftbrah
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In my mind, the rankings go:
1. Deadliftbrah
2. Deadliftbrah
3. Deadliftbrah
4. GMiscer
5. WelshAutist
08-06-2017, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted By swks26⏩
Just like spoon pics of my BMW, my dad's SL63 AMG, my washing machine and the Five Guys receipt with the girl I recently went on a date with (house party host)...You better deliver OP.
...I always deliver!
Most situations in my life are nothing to lose:
- Ask a bro in the gym if he's aware; if he bertstares I barely lift anyway
- Ask a girl for her number/drink; if she says no, I'm FA anyway
- Go full alpha Chad in an IB interview; I've had about 20 rejections and found a job in Consultancy already
08-06-2017, 03:14 AM
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What division?
PM me if you want some serious advice but don't want to post too many details on the misc.
PM me if you want some serious advice but don't want to post too many details on the misc.
08-06-2017, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By bigdownunder⏩
Been out all day, so will PM later this evening.What division?
PM me if you want some serious advice but don't want to post too many details on the misc.
PM me if you want some serious advice but don't want to post too many details on the misc.
Division is Equity Capital Markets. I have previously interned in Capital Markets at DB but it would be very helpful to have any further information about the division, bank, current projects, growth areas, global trends, etc.
Appreciate it brah, have repped in advance
08-06-2017, 11:29 AM
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Good luck OP, I have my first round with them on Tuesday.
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08-07-2017, 05:02 AM
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Sorry brah, don't have much to do with ECM these days.
Should be lots of activity across Europe right now though, particularly in FIG as banks continue to recapitalise. Probably lots of rights issues, which may not be particularly exciting but that's going to be a growth sector for a while yet (especially if you add in fintech). The other big growth area will continue to be tech, for all the obvious reasons. Should be pretty easy for you to find some data on volumes.
Look, I'm assuming that you're not seriously considering any of the suggestions you opened with. I'll also assume that you're bright and have done your research on MS, and can answer all the basic Q's that trip people up (why MS, what do you know about us, tell us about a recent deal, etc). You can also 'fake' some social skills without going full retard. Here's some actual advice.
The single biggest issue I would focus on if I were interviewing you today is that you have now jumped around a bunch of different jobs in a very short space of time. To even consider you for a role I would want to hear a very compelling story of why you have made these moves, what you have achieved / learned, and why that now leads you to a career in ECM. You need to be able to speak passionately about equity markets (or make it up) - you love helping companies grow, love valuations and technical analysis, etc etc.
If you do all that you have a good chance of getting the job.
Should be lots of activity across Europe right now though, particularly in FIG as banks continue to recapitalise. Probably lots of rights issues, which may not be particularly exciting but that's going to be a growth sector for a while yet (especially if you add in fintech). The other big growth area will continue to be tech, for all the obvious reasons. Should be pretty easy for you to find some data on volumes.
Look, I'm assuming that you're not seriously considering any of the suggestions you opened with. I'll also assume that you're bright and have done your research on MS, and can answer all the basic Q's that trip people up (why MS, what do you know about us, tell us about a recent deal, etc). You can also 'fake' some social skills without going full retard. Here's some actual advice.
The single biggest issue I would focus on if I were interviewing you today is that you have now jumped around a bunch of different jobs in a very short space of time. To even consider you for a role I would want to hear a very compelling story of why you have made these moves, what you have achieved / learned, and why that now leads you to a career in ECM. You need to be able to speak passionately about equity markets (or make it up) - you love helping companies grow, love valuations and technical analysis, etc etc.
If you do all that you have a good chance of getting the job.
08-07-2017, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted By bigdownunder⏩
Opened this thread thinking it was serious, and wasn't going to post until I read this. And it's pretty much this. You're going to need to articulate why MS is different from your past experiences, and link that difference to why you'd be so happy to work there.To even consider you for a role I would want to hear a very compelling story of why you have made these moves, what you have achieved / learned, and why that now leads you to a career in ECM. You need to be able to speak passionately about equity markets (or make it up) - you love helping companies grow, love valuations and technical analysis, etc etc.
If you do all that you have a good chance of getting the job.
If you do all that you have a good chance of getting the job.
I hope that you are well spoken. If I can take anything seriously from your OP I'll guess that you'd really like to get this job. Just understand that any exuberance will look poorly on you. Calm, confident, articulate - with a great emphasis on the 3rd one. You may consider practicing some speaking points and your delivery with a friend if you have time. My advice to you is to pretend you're speaking to an acquaintance - not a close friend but someone you're comfortable speaking to.
Substance and delivery are key here. I hope you have a nice outfit ready (if not - head over to Ozwald Boateng in London - PM me if you want more details).
Good luck.
08-07-2017, 05:22 AM
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-so i have to do an interview for morgan stanley
-awkward as ****
-start working out
-not so awkward
-zyzz is my inspiration
-interview again
-trembling
-just keep telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-get confident
-my turn
-i get in there
-start shaking uncontrollably
-start telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-interviewer says I can start anytime
-I start off with "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-at this point I'm so nervous I blackout
-"i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-repeat at least 4 more times
-look around the room, other people on the interview panel are saying "why does he keep saying that?"
-interviewer starts laughing
-I pass out
-hit head on the corner of the desk
-minor concussion
-interviewer thinks I was on drugs
-people at current workplace found out and call my zeezprah
-nickname eventually turns into zebra
-i haven't heard my real name in months
-haven't been this depressed since high school
-awkward as ****
-start working out
-not so awkward
-zyzz is my inspiration
-interview again
-trembling
-just keep telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-get confident
-my turn
-i get in there
-start shaking uncontrollably
-start telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-interviewer says I can start anytime
-I start off with "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-at this point I'm so nervous I blackout
-"i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-repeat at least 4 more times
-look around the room, other people on the interview panel are saying "why does he keep saying that?"
-interviewer starts laughing
-I pass out
-hit head on the corner of the desk
-minor concussion
-interviewer thinks I was on drugs
-people at current workplace found out and call my zeezprah
-nickname eventually turns into zebra
-i haven't heard my real name in months
-haven't been this depressed since high school
SS + GOMAD is all you need srs
08-07-2017, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted By ILLuSioNzX⏩
All the best too!Good luck OP, I have my first round with them on Tuesday.
What division have you applied for? Which city?
08-07-2017, 06:04 AM
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lold so hard at this thread, gonna rep OP for a good laugh
why don't you also take out your dink, put it on his desk and tell him to suk it while you're at it ?
why don't you also take out your dink, put it on his desk and tell him to suk it while you're at it ?
08-07-2017, 06:11 AM
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If you know 100% your normal interviewing doesn't work, then go for it.
Edit: Though I recommend just being more confident.
Edit: Though I recommend just being more confident.
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08-07-2017, 06:16 AM
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Interested in the results. If this works it says more about the banking world than your personality lol!
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08-07-2017, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted By AtomicVeggie⏩
I know it's trolling and all but jeez, the cringe is realCringed so hard
quantum cringed at the poker bit. Gmiscer has nothing on op.
When it all comes down
There'll be nothing left to catch you but ground
It's calling your name and filling your head
With delusions of glory
08-07-2017, 06:20 AM
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GL Opie
Currently duing an internship there in London
but not IB , business analyst with a CS degree
Currently duing an internship there in London
but not IB , business analyst with a CS degree
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Originally Posted By Big
Number 1 rule of Sales: people buy from peopleInterested in the results. If this works it says more about the banking world than your personality lol!
So if I can impress him with my personable skills, why don't I deserve to be in S&T or M&A or even ECM just as much as someone else?
08-07-2017, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Clydesdale1991⏩
Can your give me an example of being more confident without being 'cringe'?If you know 100% your normal interviewing doesn't work, then go for it.
Edit: Though I recommend just being more confident.
Edit: Though I recommend just being more confident.
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The GOAT troll, love the level of detail you go to brah... don't ever change!
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Got a call earlier today inviting me to a cocktail party and networking dinner tomorrow evening before the interview on Thursday.
It came out of the blue and they said attendance isn't necessary but they will put me up in a hotel and pay my expenses if I do go.
I am thinking it might be a trap if I don't take up the offer, but either way I was planning on going.
Should I start the alpha Chad game from tomorrow afternoon and continue that momentum into the interview the following day? What do I honestly have to lose?
It came out of the blue and they said attendance isn't necessary but they will put me up in a hotel and pay my expenses if I do go.
I am thinking it might be a trap if I don't take up the offer, but either way I was planning on going.
Should I start the alpha Chad game from tomorrow afternoon and continue that momentum into the interview the following day? What do I honestly have to lose?
08-08-2017, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc⏩
What universe does she reside in wtf my head
Toronto is Bake crew
Raptors-Jays-Leafs-Bills. Best 2/10 sport teams crew.
Herniated Dick crew
Mike Tyson admirer crew
Homeboy Leroy crew
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
10 week summer internship? How is it? Aware me on culture? Best/worst things about company and people? What hours are you doing? What's the local drinking place? Any initiations/challenges you've had to do?GL Opie
Currently duing an internship there in London
but not IB , business analyst with a CS degree
Currently duing an internship there in London
but not IB , business analyst with a CS degree
08-08-2017, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted By WelshAutist⏩
aw fuk bye. let me be srs. if they are like any other firm they are just looking to see if you aren't a total creep and aren't going to get wasted.Got a call earlier today inviting me to a cocktail party and networking dinner tomorrow evening before the interview on Thursday.
It came out of the blue and they said attendance isn't necessary but they will put me up in a hotel and pay my expenses if I do go.
I am thinking it might be a trap if I don't take up the offer, but either way I was planning on going.
Should I start the alpha Chad game from tomorrow afternoon and continue that momentum into the interview the following day? What do I honestly have to lose?
It came out of the blue and they said attendance isn't necessary but they will put me up in a hotel and pay my expenses if I do go.
I am thinking it might be a trap if I don't take up the offer, but either way I was planning on going.
Should I start the alpha Chad game from tomorrow afternoon and continue that momentum into the interview the following day? What do I honestly have to lose?
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Originally Posted By 5431⏩
Sounds like a dumb Q, but isn't getting drunk a good thing?aw fuk bye. let me be srs. if they are like any other firm they are just looking to see if you aren't a total creep and aren't going to get wasted.
You want to be the fearless, young, alpha, chatty, sociable, alcohol and humour connoisseur, don't you?
It feels like you'd be looked down upon if you stood in a corner sipping orange juice wishing you were at home on League of Legends
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Originally Posted By Miscipline⏩
says whoLife isn't a TV show bro
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Originally Posted By WelshAutist⏩
old buddy of mine was in finance and got a job in that fieldGot a call earlier today inviting me to a cocktail party and networking dinner tomorrow evening before the interview on Thursday.
It came out of the blue and they said attendance isn't necessary but they will put me up in a hotel and pay my expenses if I do go.
I am thinking it might be a trap if I don't take up the offer, but either way I was planning on going.
Should I start the alpha Chad game from tomorrow afternoon and continue that momentum into the interview the following day? What do I honestly have to lose?
It came out of the blue and they said attendance isn't necessary but they will put me up in a hotel and pay my expenses if I do go.
I am thinking it might be a trap if I don't take up the offer, but either way I was planning on going.
Should I start the alpha Chad game from tomorrow afternoon and continue that momentum into the interview the following day? What do I honestly have to lose?
all his office ever did was go out of town and get fukked up on company money.
they want a bro who they can relate with and get along with, not some weirdo that never talks and makes them uncomfortable.
if you don't act like an incel, but not too overly obnoxious(find that nice middle ground of what your op is), you can do it.
firm believer in "fake it til you make it"
GL
08-08-2017, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By WelshAutist⏩
Won't take them 40 seconds brahRemember Einstein's quote about Insanity?
You seriously want me to go in like every other interview I've been to and have them know in the first 40 seconds that it's not me they're picking for the job?
You seriously want me to go in like every other interview I've been to and have them know in the first 40 seconds that it's not me they're picking for the job?
Originally Posted By WelshAutist⏩
Why would they extend this invitation to you when you haven't even had the interview, let alone been offered the job? Weird.Got a call earlier today inviting me to a cocktail party and networking dinner tomorrow evening before the interview on Thursday.
It came out of the blue and they said attendance isn't necessary but they will put me up in a hotel and pay my expenses if I do go.
I am thinking it might be a trap if I don't take up the offer, but either way I was planning on going.
Should I start the alpha Chad game from tomorrow afternoon and continue that momentum into the interview the following day? What do I honestly have to lose?
It came out of the blue and they said attendance isn't necessary but they will put me up in a hotel and pay my expenses if I do go.
I am thinking it might be a trap if I don't take up the offer, but either way I was planning on going.
Should I start the alpha Chad game from tomorrow afternoon and continue that momentum into the interview the following day? What do I honestly have to lose?
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