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post 1515067191 08-09-2017, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted By 89mahou⏩
i like how millenials get canned on when baby boomers with a high school education could get a menial labour job that would:

-buy a house
- raise multiple kids
- take vacations

and then retire with a fat pension. and they have the gall to moan about "hard work" and "back in my day"

stfu old chumps. we don't live in the same world anymore.
here we go blaming baby boomers again...

You know some of what you say maybe was true for a certain % of the population but not every baby boomer had it as easy as you think they did. You act as if everyone was living in huge houses and living the GOAT life but in reality most baby boomers were poor and got in debt and lived paycheck to paycheck.

I interview a lot of kids coming out of college and about half of them think they should be given a managerial job right away. Most of them don't want to climb the corporate ladder.

But hey lets blame them because we live in a society that needs to blame someone else!!!
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Originally Posted By 89mahou⏩
it used to be that way in Alberta too, before the oil price crashed in 2014. wish i was of age when the oil business was booming in early to mid 00s. would have worked 3 hard years and set myself up for life. Tim Hortons (Coffee Chain) was paying obscene amounts of money for cashiers....

but these jobs seem far and few in between. remember an old high school teacher telling me back in the day, you would graduate high school on the Friday and have gainful employment on Monday.
That kind of gig is few and far between, but solid blue collar work is still out there. Look up Mike Rowe's podcast/writings, he talks about it all the time there are employers out there that cannot fill those jobs. There is a shop around the corner from my house - they've had a sign up looking for a welder with 2 years experience (or a tech degree) and are paying $30/hr with benefits. They've been looking for over a year.

It definitely is a different time - the whole graduate and get a job thing was the result of towns being built to support a plant and that doesn't exist as much as we have shifted in society from manufacturing to support. So yea, you may have to move to get a job in the area that you want, but back in the day that was the case for the kids that wanted to a white collar job. Thirty years ago if you wanted to work in finance, you had to move to NYC.
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Originally Posted By FryDude⏩
Right?! God damn it bro god damn it....

So many idiots went to school during the gold rush and came out the other side wondering what happened.

Stop going to school for entertainment Americans. Parents aren't doing their jobs.
absolutely. it literally was a gold rush. fuarrrrk.

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Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
here we go blaming baby boomers again...

You know some of what you say maybe was true for a certain % of the population but not every baby boomer had it as easy as you think they did. You act as if everyone was living in huge houses and living the GOAT life but in reality most baby boomers were poor and got in debt and lived paycheck to paycheck.

I interview a lot of kids coming out of college and about half of them think they should be given a managerial job right away. Most of them don't want to climb the corporate ladder.

But hey lets blame them because we live in a society that needs to blame someone else!!!
That was the problem my last employer had. Recent grads showed up for entry level jobs and wanted more responsibility, that's something you have to earn. So now instead of hiring recent college grads, they are hiring people 25-29 year olds with high school diplomas and a few years of experience.
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You guys can thank Obama.

Entry level jobs got increasingly filled with illegal immigrants and outsourced labor under Hussein's regime.

We're starting to reverse it but it's going to take a long time to undo his mess.
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Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
here we go blaming baby boomers again...

You know some of what you say maybe was true for a certain % of the population but not every baby boomer had it as easy as you think they did. You act as if everyone was living in huge houses and living the GOAT life but in reality most baby boomers were poor and got in debt and lived paycheck to paycheck.

I interview a lot of kids coming out of college and about half of them think they should be given a managerial job right away. Most of them don't want to climb the corporate ladder.

But hey lets blame them because we live in a society that needs to blame someone else!!!
You're both right but purchasing power has gone down while common BS markers of making it 'Houses' and other BS have gone up.

Man you could pay off school in the early 80s with nothing more than a PT job.
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Step 1) Don't be dog chit ugly. (Preferably at least a 6/10.)

Step 2) Be charismatic and likeable.

Step 3) Create YouTube channel and vlog yourself doing everyday chit.

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Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
here we go blaming baby boomers again...

You know some of what you say maybe was true for a certain % of the population but not every baby boomer had it as easy as you think they did. You act as if everyone was living in huge houses and living the GOAT life but in reality most baby boomers were poor and got in debt and lived paycheck to paycheck.

I interview a lot of kids coming out of college and about half of them think they should be given a managerial job right away. Most of them don't want to climb the corporate ladder.

But hey lets blame them because we live in a society that needs to blame someone else!!!
i don't blame them for what has become of the economy. but they shouldn't rag on millenials for the difficulties of the current era. sure some of us are definitely fairies and bronies who are delusional

but the fact that the landscape has changed is undeniable.

wages, at least in the US, haven't budged for several decades. inb4 everyone should become an engineer optometrist who moonlights as a space explorer to simply make ends meet.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...d-for-decades/
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Originally Posted By J90⏩
Checklist to be rich and life on easy mode in 2017.

Step 1) Don't be dog chit ugly. (Preferably at least a 6/10.)

Step 2) Be charismatic and likeable.

Step 3) Create YouTube channel and vlog yourself doing everyday chit.

Step 4) ???

Step 5) Profit?
That's the phucking truth bro.
Got guys throwing frisbees through basketball hoops making 7 figures from YouTube...
Meanwhile, miscers complaining about their liberal arts degree loans.
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Originally Posted By 89mahou⏩
i don't blame them for what has become of the economy. but they shouldn't rag on millenials for the difficulties of the current era. sure some of us are definitely fairies and bronies who are delusional

but the fact that the landscape has changed is undeniable.

wages, at least in the US, haven't budged for several decades. inb4 everyone should become an engineer optometrist who moonlights as a space explorer to simply make ends meet.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...d-for-decades/
People rag on millennials for studying useless **** and then expecting to get a top paying career. I don't blame them entirely.. they've been pushed towards these idiotic Marxist theory classes throughout their formative years.. but still, when you take "African Studies" and your collegiate experience amounts to "Blame the evil white male hetero capitalist patriarchy!", you're going to be a useless **** in the real world.
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Originally Posted By 89mahou⏩
absolutely. it literally was a gold rush. fuarrrrk.

we're all gonna make it.
If I ever make it you'll catch an invite to the europe tours cuzz. I gotchu.
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Originally Posted By FryDude⏩
If I ever make it you'll catch an invite to the europe tours cuzz. I gotchu.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
Minus the pension, you can do the same thing. Baby boomers didn't pay for 100/month cell phones, 100/month cable subscriptions, streaming services, cars that cost a years wages, and all inclusive resort vacations.

Buy a smallish house, drive an older self maintained car, take cheaper vacations, and don't have all the newest tech everywhere and you too can raise a family on a 'menial labour job'. With most companies, you can even accumulate a decent retirement account if you budget well.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
People rag on millennials for studying useless **** and then expecting to get a top paying career. I don't blame them entirely.. they've been pushed towards these idiotic Marxist theory classes throughout their formative years.. but still, when you take "African Studies" and your collegiate experience amounts to "Blame the evil white male hetero capitalist patriarchy!", you're going to be a useless **** in the real world.
This. It's a little bit of a two way street. So many professors of these curriculums have zero experience outside of academia.

And like I said previously in the thread, I'd like to see the stats for the, let's say, 27 and under crowd in every decade going back 60 years. I bet the unemployment stats are basically the same for this age group.
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Originally Posted By 89mahou⏩
i don't blame them for what has become of the economy. but they shouldn't rag on millenials for the difficulties of the current era. sure some of us are definitely fairies and bronies who are delusional

but the fact that the landscape has changed is undeniable.

wages, at least in the US, haven't budged for several decades. inb4 everyone should become an engineer optometrist who moonlights as a space explorer to simply make ends meet.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...d-for-decades/
Even previously safe professions like Optometry and Pharmacy are now seeing difficulties with job hirings. Heck, Im a newly graduated physical therapist and ive been having trouble getting a job out of school too.

The simple fact is, even with the economy doing good, our productivity is so high for the jobs being done that business doesnt need the entire workforce to meet the demands anymore. Low skilled jobs can be done by immigrants and high schoolers and dont pay enough to support real working adults. High skilled jobs are available to those who either have the networking or experience. It still leaves a large chunk of "skilled" or "educated" individuals working jobs "beneath" them
Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
People rag on millennials for studying useless **** and then expecting to get a top paying career. I don't blame them entirely.. they've been pushed towards these idiotic Marxist theory classes throughout their formative years.. but still, when you take "African Studies" and your collegiate experience amounts to "Blame the evil white male hetero capitalist patriarchy!", you're going to be a useless **** in the real world.
The womens studies/Race studies scapegoat is a very small minority of college grads. Most people who graduate colllege dont have degrees in those things, and still cant get jobs. Degrees like communications, film, architecture, business mangement, facilities management, etc are the degrees now that are having a hard time.

Im not sure what the solution is, but the economy cannot sustain a large portion of the adult workforce out of work...
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
Im not sure what the solution is, but the economy cannot sustain a large portion of the adult workforce out of work...
What's a large portion?

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
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baby boomers wont retire, and only hire people with 20 years experience for "entry level" jobs.

plus no new good job creation.

thats why
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It's only going to get worse. Technology is largely to blame to be honest.

Originally Posted By J90⏩
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Originally Posted By BrahPlease⏩
baby boomers wont retire, and only hire people with 20 years experience for "entry level" jobs.

plus no new good job creation.

thats why
Jobs are there we just spent 8 Obama years bringing in cheap labor from south america or outsourced to cheap labor in India so we didn't have to pay our youth to do jobs.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
People rag on millennials for studying useless **** and then expecting to get a top paying career. I don't blame them entirely.. they've been pushed towards these idiotic Marxist theory classes throughout their formative years.. but still, when you take "African Studies" and your collegiate experience amounts to "Blame the evil white male hetero capitalist patriarchy!", you're going to be a useless **** in the real world.
You do realise that a college degree is the new hs diploma? You need one for the majority of entry level jobs
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
That kind of gig is few and far between, but solid blue collar work is still out there. Look up Mike Rowe's podcast/writings, he talks about it all the time there are employers out there that cannot fill those jobs. There is a shop around the corner from my house - they've had a sign up looking for a welder with 2 years experience (or a tech degree) and are paying $30/hr with benefits. They've been looking for over a year.

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That's because anyone with 2 years welding experience is already doing it somewhere else for that much money or more.

That's a huge issue with the job market now. Every company wants you to be trained, ready to hit the ground running, and they want someone else to have paid for it. Companies should take the initiative to train people or give them apprenticeships with no previous experience and then they could fill the jobs they need, like they used to do.
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As many above have said, this is what happens when you pick a crap degree.
I graduated with my second degree (EE) in December 2015 and had a job before I graduated making good money.
Crap choices equal crap life including focusing on partying in college rather than obtaining a desired degree.

BTW the department of labor under Obama changed the way they counted unemployment so that the numbers would look much better, and they now only count people on unemployment benefits and they don't count underemployed or those who gave up looking. It was likely worse than depression era numbers IMO
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Originally Posted By 89mahou⏩
i like how millenials get canned on when baby boomers with a high school education could get a menial labour job that would:

-buy a house
- raise multiple kids
- take vacations

and then retire with a fat pension. and they have the gall to moan about "hard work" and "back in my day"

stfu old chumps. we don't live in the same world anymore.
You are right. No one wants to be a tradie, truck driver, janitor, etc. Immigrants take those, rack up overtime, and buy houses in the suburbs, get their kids thru college, and retire in a mansion with cash in their homeland while lolling at the part time barista with 250k in college debt.
Everyone wants an instagram friendly job that doesnt require work, stress, and waking up early.
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
Even previously safe professions like Optometry and Pharmacy are now seeing difficulties with job hirings. Heck, Im a newly graduated physical therapist and ive been having trouble getting a job out of school too.

The simple fact is, even with the economy doing good, our productivity is so high for the jobs being done that business doesnt need the entire workforce to meet the demands anymore. Low skilled jobs can be done by immigrants and high schoolers and dont pay enough to support real working adults. High skilled jobs are available to those who either have the networking or experience. It still leaves a large chunk of "skilled" or "educated" individuals working jobs "beneath" them



The womens studies/Race studies scapegoat is a very small minority of college grads. Most people who graduate colllege dont have degrees in those things, and still cant get jobs. Degrees like communications, film, architecture, business mangement, facilities management, etc are the degrees now that are having a hard time.

Im not sure what the solution is, but the economy cannot sustain a large portion of the adult workforce out of work...
those degrees you just named are mostly still crappy, easy to obtain degrees. If you get a communications degree , then you might as well have done women's studies
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I just responded to your other thread OP. Some of you guys are way off. Blaming Millennials for things that they played no part in is ridiculous.

The reality is that poor trade policies and mass immigration has crushed the labor market for Millennials. Absolutely destroyed it.

When my father was a young man with very little education and located in a major city (top five pop. wise) he was able to easily obtain a job that paid for a home, a car, a wife who didn't have to work, and not one but two children. That was easily obtainable for nearly all Americans, certainly much more attainable than it is today.

Today Millennials, even educated and specialized Millennials, do not have and can not afford those things. It isn't because they would rather post on their Instagram or watch television. The reality is that they don't have those things because they can't afford those things and they have been propagandized to not worry about those things. They can't afford those things because the labor market is ****.

The situation that we Millennials are in is a ****ing joke. We got screwed by previous generations.
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Originally Posted By WishIWasJawBrah⏩
You do realise that a college degree is the new hs diploma? You need one for the majority of entry level jobs
It's almost like the Government subsidized college loans, which in turn allowed anyone and everyone to get a loan. Qualifications be damned. Then when it turned out they were morons and not smart enough to pass the classes they'd signed up for, the standards were lowered so they wouldn't "feel bad" about themselves (this being the "trophy for everyone generation"). Now you've got morons with useless degrees that they weren't even capable of getting without having the standards dropped, which have been handed out to every Tom, Dick and Harry who wanted one with the frequency of toilet paper. No wonder they're not worth anything more than wiping your ass with.
This is why a degree costs so much now btw, because colleges can charge whatever they want when they know that the taxpayer has to pick up the tab if the student defaults on their loan.

Anything you subsidize, you get more of. When you get more of something, you dilute the market. When the market is diluted, the value of said market is reduced.
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
As many above have said, this is what happens when you pick a crap degree.
I graduated with my second degree (EE) in December 2015 and had a job before I graduated making good money.
Crap choices equal crap life including focusing on partying in college rather than obtaining a desired degree.

BTW the department of labor under Obama changed the way they counted unemployment so that the numbers would look much better, and they now only count people on unemployment benefits and they don't count underemployed or those who gave up looking. It was likely worse than depression era numbers IMO
EE crew checking in. Class of 08. That's right I graduated AS THE ECONOMY MELTED.

Took a job at the first place that was willing to hire me for 20 bucks an hour for a 3 month probationary period. Full hired at 50k after that period and got very large raises after that. Been making six figures for several years.

The moral of the story: it's easy to get stuck in the argument about generations, but at the end of the day the side you pick is irrelevant to your personal success in life. You only have a good 60-70 years on this earth. How long are you going to argue about degrees vs trades? How long will you blame each other? How long will you look for the perfect job because you think the available offers are beneath you?

Think bro, THINK. The sooner you get your foot thru the door the fast you'll rise. I have not been asked about my degree in the past 8 years or so. It's ALL about the experience and professional license / certifications.

Get your head out of your ass, get a legit degree, skill, license and certification. You will reap the benefits. It doesn't matter who is to blame for your failure as long as you're not failing. All you need to succeed is to do it yourself. Go get it bros, you can make it.
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Well Chipotle and Cheesecake Factory can only hire so many people
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