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post 1515086731 08-09-2017, 03:44 PM
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It is 100% their fault regardless of what politicians say. I paid 60k over ask just so I could get in the market before being left behind. Ayy das not it mane.

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Since I've recently become unemployed and recently graduated, I'd like to chime in on my experience so far.

I know two different engineers, one took 6 months to find a job and the other took 8 months. Both are buried in debt but are at least making above the US Median Income Level. I honestly feel bad for a lot of millennials and their current situation. Their parents, counselors and recruiters were really bad at pointing them down the right path andthe value of degree is not what it once was. Getting worthless degrees; sure, I've heard it all. But what about people with legit degrees? It seems if you're not in the medical field, you are going to struggle to get a job.

For those of you talking about bills, streaming services, cellphones and technology that we don't need. Well how are you supposed to network and apply for jobs without a computer, cell phone or internet? Even using online resources, you have a 5% landing a job that way according to Forbes. You talk about wages and opportunities being comparable to past generations, but did the baby boomers or generation X have 10-50k in student loans starting out? I know most millennials are getting help from their parents, the same people that won't retire, that won't even allow for an opportunity for an entry level position. If you wanted to compare the playing field for millennials vs baby boomers, there is 0 comparison. Not the mention the struggle of finding a partner to confide in, communicate with, or build a relationship with. Millennials are struggling with jobs/careers, relationships, debt, housing, etc.

Have you even seen job postings lately?Wanted, entry-level position, 2-5 years experience requiredI went to school and got a damn good degree in Finance and Investment Science. I graduated at nearly the top of my class. I made connections with all the professors I could and nailed two good internships, one which promoted me to a manager position after 2 months. I'd say I'm pretty dang good at what I do. And I'm still struggling to find my next job. I've applied to around 25 jobs and I'm only two months into my search and 80% have not contacted me or sent an email saying I'm no longer being considered.

Remember my engineering friends that were looking for 6 to 8 months? Well I'm only on month 2 and they simply say don't worry about it, it's normal even. Expect it to take a while. Luckily I've got a few interviews lined up and such, but no one is lucky as I am to get several good internships with years of experience under my belt and it's still been a struggle. I've never met one more motivated than I am, especially after reading what people say on this site. I can't imagine how hard this is for other millennials who have 0 confidence. I am a social person so I do approach and talk to people and I've met an engineer that mows grass for the city. I've met nurses which admit they're all on SSRI's; I think most females are. I know another engineer that has been unemployed for years, she literally does nothing, supported by her husband because no one needs her or simply doesn't like her? I'm not sure.

This has got to be the hardest time, mentally, for any generation. Look at past generations and they all struggled with something, but it seems as though the only good thing millennials have going for them is not having to do physical labor, the rest of their lives are pretty damn tough.
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Originally Posted By _zman
Since I've recently become unemployed and recently graduated, I'd like to chime in on my experience so far.

I know two different engineers, one took 6 months to find a job and the other took 8 months. Both are buried in debt but are at least making above the US Median Income Level. I honestly feel bad for a lot of millennials and their current situation. Their parents, counselors and recruiters were really bad at pointing them down the right path andthe value of degree is not what it once was. Getting worthless degrees; sure, I've heard it all. But what about people with legit degrees? It seems if you're not in the medical field, you are going to struggle to get a job.

For those of you talking about bills, streaming services, cellphones and technology that we don't need. Well how are you supposed to network and apply for jobs without a computer, cell phone or internet? Even using online resources, you have a 5% landing a job that way according to Forbes. You talk about wages and opportunities being comparable to past generations, but did the baby boomers or generation X have 10-50k in student loans starting out? I know most millennials are getting help from their parents, the same people that won't retire, that won't even allow for an opportunity for an entry level position. If you wanted to compare the playing field for millennials vs baby boomers, there is 0 comparison. Not the mention the struggle of finding a partner to confide in, communicate with, or build a relationship with. Millennials are struggling with jobs/careers, relationships, debt, housing, etc.

Have you even seen job postings lately?Wanted, entry-level position, 2-5 years experience requiredI went to school and got a damn good degree in Finance and Investment Science. I graduated at nearly the top of my class. I made connections with all the professors I could and nailed two good internships, one which promoted me to a manager position after 2 months. I'd say I'm pretty dang good at what I do. And I'm still struggling to find my next job. I've applied to around 25 jobs and I'm only two months into my search and 80% have not contacted me or sent an email saying I'm no longer being considered.

Remember my engineering friends that were looking for 6 to 8 months? Well I'm only on month 2 and they simply say don't worry about it, it's normal even. Expect it to take a while. Luckily I've got a few interviews lined up and such, but no one is lucky as I am to get several good internships with years of experience under my belt and it's still been a struggle. I've never met one more motivated than I am, especially after reading what people say on this site. I can't imagine how hard this is for other millennials who have 0 confidence. I am a social person so I do approach and talk to people and I've met an engineer that mows grass for the city. I've met nurses which admit they're all on SSRI's; I think most females are. I know another engineer that has been unemployed for years, she literally does nothing, supported by her husband because no one needs her or simply doesn't like her? I'm not sure.

This has got to be the hardest time, mentally, for any generation. Look at past generations and they all struggled with something, but it seems as though the only good thing millennials have going for them is not having to do physical labor, the rest of their lives are pretty damn tough.
I agree with this post. Spot on. But what are ssri's? Social security disability chit?
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Originally Posted By BrahPlease
I agree with this post. Spot on. But what are ssri's? Social security disability chit?
Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors. They basically level a person out, but you don't really feel joy or sadness. Zombie-like state.
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Wow....... There are a lot of millenials placing a lot of the blame with the baby boomers ITT
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Originally Posted By _zman
Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors. They basically level a person out, but you don't really feel joy or sadness. Zombie-like state.
I can definitely notice a lot of women take those. Thats prolly ruining chit too for millennials, all the gitrls are fat and have fuacked up brains
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Thank you old people.

Surprised they haven't come into to this thread saying how hard they had it.
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Originally Posted By FryDude
You're both right but purchasing power has gone down while common BS markers of making it 'Houses' and other BS have gone up.

Man you could pay off school in the early 80s with nothing more than a PT job.
I've read several books and biographies of famous, successful people. Ronald Reagan would hitch hike across the country and work odd jobs for a couple months out of the year. Had 0 experience and had some incredible jobs that helped make him the man he ended up becoming. He became a baseball announcer and worked for a radio broadcaster with 0 experience.

There's a famous set of brothers around here that grew up similarly and built a very successful truck stop business. One, in particular talked about working a summer job, which paid for all of his tuition at the most prestigious school in the state and that included rent/bills for the year as well.

Some people on this forum have had some luck getting to where they are. Truth be told, even though I'm unemployed, I've been lucky to land a lot of jobs even though I worked hard, they all have promoted me and had room for promotions. When luck goes our way, we tend to put down others saying they don't work hard, they are negative, or their chronic complainers. All of that might be true, but I still think life is tough for a lot of people these days. Never know what people are struggling with mentally, financially, family issues etc. Not everyone grows up with a traditional family, a mentor, parents with networks of all the big employers in town, run the family business etc, receive an inheritance to start a business. Hardly anyone becomes a success on their own, they get A LOT of help. I've noticed among my peers, anyone with success has gotten a leg up/hand out from someone to get started with their business. And I'm not one to make an excuse, because I've been plenty successful myself. I'm just sick of seeing all the e-bragging going on without any explanation or reference to how you got to where you even are. No advice given. No pointers, etc.
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Originally Posted By _zman
I've read several books and biographies of famous, successful people. Ronald Reagan would hitch hike across the country and work odd jobs for a couple months out of the year. Had 0 experience and had some incredible jobs that helped make him the man he ended up becoming. He became a baseball announcer and worked for a radio broadcaster with 0 experience.

There's a famous set of brothers around here that grew up similarly and built a very successful truck stop business. One, in particular talked about working a summer job, which paid for all of his tuition at the most prestigious school in the state and that included rent/bills for the year as well.

Some people on this forum have had some luck getting to where they are. Truth be told, even though I'm unemployed, I've been lucky to land a lot of jobs even though I worked hard, they all have promoted me and had room for promotions. When luck goes our way, we tend to put down others saying they don't work hard, they are negative, or their chronic complainers. All of that might be true, but I still think life is tough for a lot of people these days. Never know what people are struggling with mentally, financially, family issues etc. Not everyone grows up with a traditional family, a mentor, parents with networks of all the big employers in town, run the family business etc, receive an inheritance to start a business. Hardly anyone becomes a success on their own, they get A LOT of help. I've noticed among my peers, anyone with success has gotten a leg up/hand out from someone to get started with their business. And I'm not one to make an excuse, because I've been plenty successful myself. I'm just sick of seeing all the e-bragging going on without any explanation or reference to how you got to where you even are. No advice given. No pointers, etc.
He's right.

And the topic you guys are covering only broached getting in the door. Then see the harsh reality after 5+ years of going above and beyond, working hard, and doing more than needed only to find you get passed over on promotions for someone's buddy.

Most of life success depends on someone else helping you. There really is no self made anymore. Plenty of those types fail because of invisible walls. Not baby boomers or millennial, it's just that people as business sucks.
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Work sucks. I do just enough to get by but I refuse to work hard. Lol fak that.

As soon as my visa expires I'm back in China where I lived like a king teaching part-time.

Working holiday in japan fuking doesn't work. Everything is so expensive, if you won't have full time job forget about the holiday part.
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spoiled and entitled, they think they are worth more than they actually are. which doesn't compute in the job market.
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boomers will blame millennials, because it takes both responsibility off their hands, and places an illusion of control - things are bad not because we're royally fukked, but because of X's fault.

I think the illusion of control is a pretty strong driving force behind the blame (on both sides, boomers blaming millennials and vice-versa). Things are really bad, and we can see it, but we need to find a way to control this badness, so we find someone/thing to blame, and feel more in control, because as long as X doesn't continue doing Y, we'll be fine.

Fact of the matter is, the boomer period of prosperity and peace is an extreme aberration in the history of the world. That was probably the peak of peace and prosperity in modern civilisation. Even the middle east was liberating, no burquas or all that chit.

Even the period now is considered an aberration or peace and prosperity. Throughout most of human civilisation, it was just war, peasants getting killed, peasants being enslaved, peasants dying from famine, peasants getting raped in war, peasants raping in war.

Too many men, too much power and resources in the hands of too few people is the status quo, and we're reverting back to the norm. The lives of men is getting more worthless day by day, as we lose our houses, jobs and status. Soon we'll all be hungry and desperate, willing to sell our lives cheaply to the highest bidder, then there'll be war, then hopefully things will swing around.

The 2 biggest era of progress were the renaissance, where the black death killed a massive proportion of disposable men, hence the uptick in what peasants could demand, and a large increase in equality, and WW2, where the same thing happened. Now its super peaceful, there are billions of disposable men competing for very few jobs, of course there'll be inequality.

This is just history, not left VS right, Hussein Obama, MAGA, or whatever. Even grads in China are being told to go to rural areas to get jobs, as there's no jobs in the city, so China sure as fuk ain't stealing any jobs.
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Originally Posted By sheepski
Work sucks. I do just enough to get by but I refuse to work hard. Lol fak that.

As soon as my visa expires I'm back in China where I lived like a king teaching part-time.

Working holiday in japan fuking doesn't work. Everything is so expensive, if you won't have full time job forget about the holiday part.
another worthless sexpat destroying Asia...

my only comfort is you'll be fukked once you return home, completely unemployable. you can't stay in Asia because you're now a tier-3 chit tier foreign worker under their new VISA system, completely disposable and replaceable.
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Maybe because the boomers spent their time networking with others, socializing, and building strong relationships with people that could potentially get them into the workforce. Maybe because employers are tired of spoiled, bratty, entitled, millenials shuffling in glued to their phones without exchanging the most basic of pleasantries with those around them and thinking that they are somehow manager material and the whole world is owed to them. Maybe they shouldn't hold out for that job as social media director of Cosmopolitan or curator at the Met.

how about stick your fukin nose to the grindstone and get some fukin work experience where you can get it.
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Originally Posted By _zman
Since I've recently become unemployed and recently graduated, I'd like to chime in on my experience so far.

I know two different engineers, one took 6 months to find a job and the other took 8 months. Both are buried in debt but are at least making above the US Median Income Level. I honestly feel bad for a lot of millennials and their current situation. Their parents, counselors and recruiters were really bad at pointing them down the right path andthe value of degree is not what it once was. Getting worthless degrees; sure, I've heard it all. But what about people with legit degrees? It seems if you're not in the medical field, you are going to struggle to get a job.

For those of you talking about bills, streaming services, cellphones and technology that we don't need. Well how are you supposed to network and apply for jobs without a computer, cell phone or internet? Even using online resources, you have a 5% landing a job that way according to Forbes. You talk about wages and opportunities being comparable to past generations, but did the baby boomers or generation X have 10-50k in student loans starting out? I know most millennials are getting help from their parents, the same people that won't retire, that won't even allow for an opportunity for an entry level position. If you wanted to compare the playing field for millennials vs baby boomers, there is 0 comparison. Not the mention the struggle of finding a partner to confide in, communicate with, or build a relationship with. Millennials are struggling with jobs/careers, relationships, debt, housing, etc.

Have you even seen job postings lately?Wanted, entry-level position, 2-5 years experience requiredI went to school and got a damn good degree in Finance and Investment Science. I graduated at nearly the top of my class. I made connections with all the professors I could and nailed two good internships, one which promoted me to a manager position after 2 months. I'd say I'm pretty dang good at what I do. And I'm still struggling to find my next job. I've applied to around 25 jobs and I'm only two months into my search and 80% have not contacted me or sent an email saying I'm no longer being considered.

Remember my engineering friends that were looking for 6 to 8 months? Well I'm only on month 2 and they simply say don't worry about it, it's normal even. Expect it to take a while. Luckily I've got a few interviews lined up and such, but no one is lucky as I am to get several good internships with years of experience under my belt and it's still been a struggle. I've never met one more motivated than I am, especially after reading what people say on this site. I can't imagine how hard this is for other millennials who have 0 confidence. I am a social person so I do approach and talk to people and I've met an engineer that mows grass for the city. I've met nurses which admit they're all on SSRI's; I think most females are. I know another engineer that has been unemployed for years, she literally does nothing, supported by her husband because no one needs her or simply doesn't like her? I'm not sure.

This has got to be the hardest time, mentally, for any generation. Look at past generations and they all struggled with something, but it seems as though the only good thing millennials have going for them is not having to do physical labor, the rest of their lives are pretty damn tough.
engineering you say, how many jobs have you dismissed interest in applying because of where the work was? people enter engineering degree because the pay is good and placement (even entry level) is good but what they don't say is you will be working in chit whole USA or third world Africa because they won the bid. come clean, how many recruiters have you told to **** off because the job site was in a chitty area?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Uhhh, those still exist.

Crap, before it became the cause of the day, the damn Dakota Pipeline was paying BIG money to people with no experience. Guys were getting six figures to drive a dump truck. Wal-Mart was paying $23/hr to start because they didn't have enough people to cover the demand. Yea you had to travel to ND - but live cheap and pay off student loans in a year or two come back with a down payment for a house.
What is your source on this

Because I've spent some time in Williston, ND. Walmart pays $15, and nobody is making $100k driving a dump truck

Also lol @ live cheap. 3 bedroom apartments were over 3k. Had a buddy spending $500/month to live in a closet
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Should this be a factor for not buying property now and waiting until interests rates go up and new home buyers (millenials) can not afford it thus driving prices down again?
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Originally Posted By KBurn
another worthless sexpat destroying Asia...

my only comfort is you'll be fukked once you return home, completely unemployable. you can't stay in Asia because you're now a tier-3 chit tier foreign worker under their new VISA system, completely disposable and replaceable.
Doesn't change the fact fleeing to SE Asia is a viable path to escape this ****ty economic situation in the West. It's life on easy mode for white guys like me.
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Baby boomers got us into this mess.

The really bad news is that something like 50% of millennial s couldn't cover a $1,000 emergency.
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Originally Posted By american
baby boomers got us into this mess.

The really bad news is that something like 50% of millennial s couldn't cover a $1,000 emergency.
again, as i mentioned previously, go back 20 years and i bet that stat is almost identical for the same age group.
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid
again, as i mentioned previously, go back 20 years and i bet that stat is almost identical for the same age group.
It's not
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Originally Posted By taeboninja
it's not
so youre telling me 20 years ago, the same/similar age group didnt have similar money shortcomings early in life?
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid
so youre telling me 20 years ago, the same/similar age group didnt have similar money shortcomings early in life?
bro 20 years ago is when it all started big time. 9/11 kicked off the chittyness of america, socially and economically.
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  1. ErnieMccracken
  1. ErnieMccracken
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You're wasting your life trying to climb the corporate ladder like your Dad did.

- Underemployed desk jockey
post 1515105781 08-09-2017, 07:05 PM
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#118
  1. LtGoose
  1. LtGoose
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"Greatest generation" my arse, fuk baby boomers. Forcing us to take up so much fukin burden. Fuk your social security.

On the flip side, fuk millennials too. Degree does not trump experience. Go get a job snowflake, they are out there. Keep job hunting while you already have a boring lifeless 8-5 job. No one is going to take a chance on you, you're not special. I'd argue you'd be more inclined to find a better job once you start a chitty one.
post 1515105881 08-09-2017, 07:06 PM
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#119
  1. CookieFactory
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You can't throw a rock without hitting a "Now Hiring" sign.
post 1515105901 08-09-2017, 07:06 PM
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#120
  1. cheerupemokid
  2. Part Animal, Part Machine
  1. cheerupemokid
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid
so youre telling me 20 years ago, the same/similar age group didnt have similar money shortcomings early in life?
In 1997, you could still get a job as a teenager very easily. NAFTA was just starting to destroy the manufacturing industry, so adults weren't in the service industry' that would otherwise be in manufacturing like now. This was also the time of the tech boom and colleges tuition has probably doubled since then.
Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but what is worse, as many masters as he has vices. - Saint Augustine
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