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Thread: Game of Thrones - HBO Season VII Thread - No Spoilers!

post 1517709131 08-28-2017, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
What exactly is Tyrions debt
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What debt does he have to Cersei that would require he betray Dany?

There's no way. That's not a twist in the show; that's just a glaring inconsistency in the plot. It makes zero sense.
Maybe tearing the family apart then siding with the enemy?
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post 1517710281 08-28-2017, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Briisk⏩
Maybe tearing the family apart then siding with the enemy?
Tearing the family apart? After she tried to have him murdered, and she teamed up with Tywin to have him convicted of a murder he did not commit in order to have him executed? Compared to Dany who could have had him killed upon his arrival to Esteros, but instead made him Hand?

Pretty sure his family, or at least Cersei,ishis enemy.
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post 1517712761 08-28-2017, 06:41 PM
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Cersei maybe his enemy but she is also carrying Jaimes baby.

He is obviously very fond of Jaime.
post 1517713581 08-28-2017, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Bar182⏩
Cersei maybe his enemy but she is also carrying Jaimes baby.

He is obviously very fond of Jaime.
Going to miscarriage. The witch told her she'd have three children, not four.

Either way, no way he betrays Dany all because Cersei is pregnant. For goodness sake Jaime just left Cersei to join the fight against the NK.
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post 1517714211 08-28-2017, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted By mynameisuntz⏩
Going to miscarriage. The witch told her she'd have three children, not four.

Either way, no way he betrays Dany all because Cersei is pregnant. For goodness sake Jaime just left Cersei to join the fight against the NK.
Or she dies giving birth, which would indirectly mean jaime killed her and fullfills the prophecy. would also be lolsy for all the chit she gives tyrion for killing their mother
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Can someone explain Raisan Bran's powers to me. He can see the past and he can see the present but not the future. Can he only see the past/present when he has the picture of whatever is going on/happening in his mind? Like he can't see what went on 50 years ago in Winterfell, but he can see what happened 50 years ago between his Dad and Mum the first day that they met.
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[QUOTE=waytoodeep03 post_id=1517702391]This should have been rhaegar

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[img]https://i.pinimg.com/736x/af/34/a3/af34a39083d231dad0a2b3ba23d7777c--tauriel-kili.jpg[img][/QUOTE]This is what he is depicted like in The World of Fire and Ice, an official book

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This is what i was expecting

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this is what we got

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post 1517715191 08-28-2017, 07:04 PM
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Rofl the writing has gone to chit. They kill off the master schemer little finger in the laziest way possible. As soon as he saw all the weird chit at winterfell, like bran going full autistic and arya being some ninja warrior, he would have noped out of there back to the vale. I seriously don't know how they are going to wrap everything up in 7 episodes next season. I hope it doesn't turn into a zombie show just set in westeros. It probably will. All the cunning political drama that made the show in the early seasons is completely gone now.
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Originally Posted By juvefan⏩
Or she dies giving birth, which would indirectly mean jaime killed her and fullfills the prophecy. would also be lolsy for all the chit she gives tyrion for killing their mother
That'd be too easy a death for Cersei...she has to die way more fantastically, I'm guessing. I think it will be due to uprising, or someone on the inner circle (like Jaime as you alluded to). Just my guess.

She's going in the direction of the Mad King, so it has to be something big.
Originally Posted By WestAfrica⏩
Can someone explain Raisan Bran's powers to me. He can see the past and he can see the present but not the future. Can he only see the past/present when he has the picture of whatever is going on/happening in his mind? Like he can't see what went on 50 years ago in Winterfell, but he can see what happened 50 years ago between his Dad and Mum the first day that they met.
No, he can see anything. Hence how he saw Rhaegar and Lyanna's wedding.
Originally Posted By shoelaces⏩
Rofl the writing has gone to chit. They kill off the master schemer little finger in the laziest way possible. As soon as he saw all the weird chit at winterfell, like bran going full autistic and arya being some ninja warrior, he would have noped out of there back to the vale. I seriously don't know how they are going to wrap everything up in 7 episodes next season. I hope it doesn't turn into a zombie show just set in westeros. It probably will. All the cunning political drama that made the show in the early seasons is completely gone now.
Littlefinger's fault was his unrelenting push for more power. That he died in the process was arguably just a matter of time.

I agree that one more season of just 6-8 episodes is way insufficient. Robb's war alone lasted 2 seasons, so the fact that the war with the NK will only last a season, and a shortened one, makes no sense. That's assuming the war lasts the entirety of the season, too. This has been considered the most absolute threat to mankind, despite being seen as mythical by most. They can't nerf it too much otherwise it will have been way too overhyped.

Needs 2 more seasons.
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post 1517716521 08-28-2017, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Bar182⏩
Cersei maybe his enemy but she is also carrying Jaimes baby.

He is obviously very fond of Jaime.
Tywin always talked about securing the family legacy too. Right now, Cersei is carrying that legacy. I could see that being what turns Tyrion. He cares about his family, and he is supposed to be the most similar of all his siblings to Tywin.
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Jesus some of you brahs have gone full potato when it comes to LF. He only wants 2 things in the world: power and catelyns and then sansas sugar walls and he was scheming for both in winterfell and paid the price.

It would have been legit the most unlittle LF thing to do if he went "nah bro I'm sweet with the vale" and then left.
post 1517717061 08-28-2017, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted By juvefan⏩
This is what he is depicted like in The World of Fire and Ice, an official book




he looks badass in that artwork, yet has a sense of melancholy and dread about him.
post 1517717281 08-28-2017, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By AD117⏩
Tywin always talked about securing the family legacy too. Right now, Cersei is carrying that legacy. I could see that being what turns Tyrion. He cares about his family, and he is supposed to be the most similar of all his siblings to Tywin.
Pretty sure Tywin would scold the hell out of Cersei for the decisions she's made.
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Originally Posted By NasStan⏩
It's actually crazy how popular GoT got, the beeb have more articles on it than most shows I've seen and atm there's an article on critics views of the finale as the 5th most read on the site today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41073818

When was the last time a show was this much of a phenomenon/widely watched?
The Walking Dead, Lost, The Sopranos, and to a lesser extent, Breaking Bad
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Originally Posted By mynameisuntz⏩
Pretty sure Tywin would scold the hell out of Cersei for the decisions she's made.
Sure he would, but he would also do all he can to make sure his grandchild sees the light of day. There was nothing more important than the Lannister legacy to him.
post 1517717711 08-28-2017, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By dipatel13⏩
Also on his vision of breaking the wheel. If Dany and Jon have a kid,she might be more inclined to follow family succession/birthright rather than a more democratic way that he was hinting at a couple episodes back.Saw this theory posted somewhere and it made some sense to me.
No of course she was always going to follow birthright. The only reason they were "hinting at" anything else was because she was certain she couldn't have children, and that they were discussing what might happen if she died since she didn't have any children.

All this bitch cares about is her birthright to the throne. Lol @ thinking she's all of a sudden going to go for democracy
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Originally Posted By AD117⏩
Sure he would, but he would also do all he can to make sure his grandchild sees the light of day. There was nothing more important than the Lannister legacy to him.
I agree, but that fetus is doomed.
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Originally Posted By KeenosSmall⏩
Beric Dondarion has the best voice in the series no homo
Strong this. Beric needs to do some narrating in future episodes.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
No of course she was always going to follow birthright. The only reason they were "hinting at" anything else was because she was certain she couldn't have children, and that they were discussing what might happen if she died since she didn't have any children.

All this bitch cares about is her birthright to the throne. Lol @ thinking she's all of a sudden going to go for democracy
Except unbeknownst to her, it's technically Jon's birthright. So if she feels that strongly that the Targaryens deserve the throne, it wouldn't go to her.
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the season had its moments but overall it felt like a step down in terms of writing. OP dragon flying mach V firing wall destroying fire & the Nights watch is basically useless.
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Originally Posted By mynameisuntz⏩
Tearing the family apart? After she tried to have him murdered, and she teamed up with Tywin to have him convicted of a murder he did not commit in order to have him executed? Compared to Dany who could have had him killed upon his arrival to Esteros, but instead made him Hand?

Pretty sure his family, or at least Cersei,ishis enemy.
That really bugged me when she was going about how Tyrion "betrayed his family". None of it made any sense

Tyrion's family betrayedhim. He only did what he had to to survive.
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Originally Posted By mynameisuntz⏩
Except unbeknownst to her, it's technically Jon's birthright. So if she feels that strongly that the Targaryens deserve the throne, it wouldn't go to her.
No chit
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Originally Posted By KingKringe⏩
cannot fukin wait to see the army of the dead in action
We saw them in action at hardhome. They ravaged everything.
As a result they got zombie giants and a bunch of zombie wildlings.

They cannot be stopped and if we see anything else other than a complete demolishing of dothraki and unsullied then the show is a failure.

You cannot build up this army the way you did at hardhome only for them to be defeated by a bunch of humans. I mean they were climbing on walls, buildings, fences etc. All sorts of craziness. I hope they dont go potato and make them look inept in season 8.
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
We saw them in action at hardhome. They ravaged everything.
As a result they got zombie giants and a bunch of zombie wildlings.

They cannot be stopped and if we see anything else other than a complete demolishing of dothraki and unsullied then the show is a failure.

You cannot build up this army the way you did at hardhome only for them to be defeated by a bunch of humans. I mean they were climbing on walls, buildings, fences etc. All sorts of craziness. I hope they dont go potato and make them look inept in season 8.
i felt like jon snow got rid of that white walker mini boss too easily back in the semi final ep, they are thousands of years old, i get that they are surprised when valyrian steel parry's their swords but still.

Also i was hoping that the "night king" was only a general and there was a de-facto palpatine type of guy pulling the strings, the end would reveal him wearing armor with the stark's ancient sigil was he climb on top of viserion and rode for the wall, that would've been a twist alright.
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Originally Posted By mynameisuntz⏩
That'd be too easy a death for Cersei...she has to die way more fantastically, I'm guessing. I think it will be due to uprising, or someone on the inner circle (like Jaime as you alluded to). Just my guess.

She's going in the direction of the Mad King, so it has to be something big.



No, he can see anything. Hence how he saw Rhaegar and Lyanna's wedding.
Ok well he should have told Jon b4 he left that a dragon would die and Cers would trick him.
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Can anyone explian how littlefinger get outed i didnt get this scene anticlimatic for sure
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Originally Posted By eltwentyone⏩
Can anyone explian how littlefinger get outed i didnt get this scene anticlimatic for sure
bran "cheat codes" stark, during his trial they knew everything he had done, from poisoning jon arryn and manipulating lisa arryn to lie to ned stark, as well as incriminating tyrion lannister and therefore ultimately getting ned stark executioned and starting the war of 5 kings, etc etc, he was done the moment Bran came back from the north, no way midget arya and sansa could ever outwit him. In a way that scene pretty much served as a metaphor how the show's political drama came to an end and magic lotr chit is taking the lead by having the guy who manipulated everyone have his plans foiled by tree magic.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces⏩
Rofl the writing has gone to chit. They kill off the master schemer little finger in the laziest way possible. As soon as he saw all the weird chit at winterfell, like bran going full autistic and arya being some ninja warrior, he would have noped out of there back to the vale. I seriously don't know how they are going to wrap everything up in 7 episodes next season. I hope it doesn't turn into a zombie show just set in westeros. It probably will. All the cunning political drama that made the show in the early seasons is completely gone now.
The writing went to **** after season 4
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Originally Posted By eltwentyone⏩
Can anyone explian how littlefinger get outed i didnt get this scene anticlimatic for sure
It was during the game of faces scene. Sansa was uncertain but when Arya went on that rant about wondering about what it would be like to be the lady of winterfell and then gave her the knife, Sansa realized Arya was not trying to kill her.

If you remember in S1 Arya was sword fighting with the baker kid when Joffrey came along and ruined their game. Sansa remembered how Arya never wanted to be girly, so Littlefingers counsel was clearly a ploy.
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