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Thread: Nurse arrested after refusing to give cop blood sample

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Originally Posted By superamped⏩
ur missing the point that the truck driver was hit by someone else. there should be no argument of criminal negligence on his part.
Federal law says Commercial drivers involved in an accident get drug tested within 8 hours regardless of who is at fault
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Federal law for commercial drivers involved in an accident are to be drug tested within 8 hours regardless of who is at fault. Hospital policy does not supercede federal law
but there is no probable cause.
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Originally Posted By superamped⏩
there is no probable cause for the truck driver.
What part of if there is an accident involving a CDL regardless of fault they by lae have to get drug tested is hard for you to understand? They agree to this when they get their CDL. My god mn it cant be that hard to understand can it? He has a cdl, he was involved in an accident, he gets drug tested.

End of story
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
What part of if there is an accident involving a CDL regardless of fault they by lae have to get drug tested is hard for you to understand? They agree to this when they get their CDL. My god mn it cant be that hard to understand can it? He has a cdl, he was involved in an accident, he gets drug tested.

End of story
no pig. there is no probable cause he caused the accident.

the criminal ran into him, suicide while running from the police.

the truck driver did nothing wrong and was an innocent bystander.
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Originally Posted By superamped⏩
no pig. there is no probable cause he caused the accident.

the criminal ran into him, suicide while running from the police.

the truck driver did nothing wrong and was an innocent bystander.
Lmfao at this pathetic low IQ troll who cant come up with an argument because he doesnt even understand what he is talking about. Bravo

Does he have a commercial drivers license? Check

Was he involved in an accident? Check

He gets drug tested.

Good luck with your moron goals of 2018
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Lmfao at this pathetic low IQ troll who cant come up with an argument because he doesnt even understand what he is talking about. Bravo
lol shut up.

ur just a stupid cop-empathizer who ignore the facts and even common sense.


not a good judge of character
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Federal law for commercial drivers involved in an accident are to be drug tested within 8 hours regardless of who is at fault. Hospital policy does not supercede federal law
lol 8 hours. tested by who brah??? you think the cop has some immunoassay equipment in the back of his cruiser? lol

the employer requires the test. NOT THE COP. maybe thats why the LAWYERS who work for the million dollar hospital were able to draft those LEGAL PROTOCOLS

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulation...-testing-occur
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Originally Posted By drFEEL⏩
lol 8 hours. tested by who brah??? you think the cop has some immunoassay equipment in the back of his cruiser? lol

the employer requires the test. NOT THE COP. maybe thats why the LAWYERS who work for the million dollar hospital were able to draft those LEGAL PROTOCOLS

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulation...-testing-occur
http://www.truckingtruth.com/wiki/to...-testing#when2

Post-accident:

CDL drivers must be drug and alcohol tested whenever they are involved in a fatal accident, or receive a traffic citation resulting from an injury or vehicle-disabling accident. The alcohol test must occur within 8 hours, and the drug test must occur within 32 hours.

Lmfao the law was even signed in by OBAMA oh lord is your head about to explode?

WHENEVER they are involved, not a suspect but just involved...
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
http://www.truckingtruth.com/wiki/to...-testing#when2

Post-accident:

CDL drivers must be drug and alcohol tested whenever they are involved in a fatal accident, or receive a traffic citation resulting from an injury or vehicle-disabling accident. The alcohol test must occur within 8 hours, and the drug test must occur within 32 hours.

Lmfao the law was even signed in by OBAMA oh lord is your head about to explode?

WHENEVER they are involved, not a suspect but just involved...
ya tested by the cop out back by the trashcans right? lol. it says in the link, "Test Must Be Performed by Employer".

dumb ass

strong .com link though grandpa

come on, you really think a hospital would draft a protocol that goes against federal law? are you dumb or stupid?
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
http://www.truckingtruth.com/wiki/to...-testing#when2

Post-accident:

CDL drivers must be drug and alcohol tested whenever they are involved in a fatal accident, or receive a traffic citation resulting from an injury or vehicle-disabling accident. The alcohol test must occur within 8 hours, and the drug test must occur within 32 hours.

Lmfao the law was even signed in by OBAMA oh lord is your head about to explode?

WHENEVER they are involved, not a suspect but just involved...
quote the fmsca site where it says the agencies need probable cause.
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Originally Posted By drFEEL⏩
ya tested by the cop out back by the trashcans right? lol. it says in the link, "Test Must Be Performed by Employer".

dumb ass

strong .com link though grandpa

come on, you really think a hospital would draft a protocol that goes against federal law? are you dumb or stupid?
Cops book urine all the time champ, its called procedures

You posted the employer requirements before they let an employee go back to work, not the same as a criminal investigation champ
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Cops book urine all the timechamp, its called procedures

You posted the employer requirements before they let an employee go back to work, not the same as a criminal investigation champ
"Currently, only urinalysis (UA) is an accepted method to satisfy Federal drug-testing requirements"

the video was for a blood sample............................................ ........
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Originally Posted By drFEEL⏩
"Currently, only urinalysis (UA) is an accepted method to satisfy Federal drug-testing requirements"

the video was for a blood sample............................................ ........
Again you are quoting for employer regulations.

Nice try tho
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Again you are quoting for employer regulations.

Nice try tho
that was from your link dumb sh!t

its at the top.


tell me again why you thought it would be rational for lawyers working for a multi million dollar hospital to draft up protocols that attempt to supercede federal regulations when it would only be at the hospitals expense.

and also why the police station would agree to them..........................


i guess you are probably done now right?
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Originally Posted By drFEEL⏩
that was from your link dumb sh!t

its at the top.


tell me again why you thought it would be rational for lawyers working for a multi million dollar hospital to draft up protocols that attempt to supercede federal regulations when it would only be at the hospitals expense.

and also why the police station would agree to them..........................


i guess you are probably done now right?
Did you even read the entire thing? Go ahead maybe educate yourself a bit. As someone whose entire in laws are in the medical field yup i can completely see the hospitals fuking up like this

There is also no way to know how out of date that paperwork is as the regulations just changed last year...
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Originally Posted By drFEEL⏩
that was from your link dumb sh!t

its at the top.


tell me again why you thought it would be rational for lawyers working for a multi million dollar hospital to draft up protocols that attempt to supercede federal regulations when it would only be at the hospitals expense.

and also why the police station would agree to them..........................


i guess you are probably done now right?
Heres the deal it doesnt matter what we say on here

The cop will be fired

Nurse will be "hailed a hero" and get paid taxpayermoney

Guy was never going to get charged anyway so this whole incident was fuqin pointless
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Did you even read the entire thing? Go ahead maybe educate yourself a bit. As someone whose entire in laws are in the medical field yup i can completely see the hospitals fuking up like this

There is also no way to know how out of date that paperwork is as the regulations just changed last year...
im still going to call you stupid. the whole time you kept using this federal law that only involves urine samples, not blood samples.

lol
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Originally Posted By datclownbaby⏩
Lol what a dick cop

I've been let go multiple times with warnings on traffic violations when the cop finds out i'm a nurse.

"Never know, I might need your help soon," is what a cop told me once when he let me go.
Now you have personal proof that there's decent cops out there. Don't let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch.
Originally Posted By rainieravesouth⏩
oh how the tone of the misc has changed.


used to be: "obey the officer's command and you wont get arrested. it's not that hard people. you gotta do what they say"


all of a sudden, outrage!
Three words: white, female, professional.

Also, command? He can't command you to perform an illegal act.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
http://www.truckingtruth.com/wiki/to...-testing#when2

Post-accident:

CDL drivers must be drug and alcohol tested whenever they are involved in a fatal accident, or receive a traffic citation resulting from an injury or vehicle-disabling accident. The alcohol test must occur within 8 hours, and the drug test must occur within 32 hours.

Lmfao the law was even signed in by OBAMA oh lord is your head about to explode?

WHENEVER they are involved, not a suspect but just involved...
Not sure if srs. You can't force the driver to take a blood test, they have to consent.

If he doesn't comply with the CDL requirement, he loses his license. It doesn't mean the cops have the authority to make him take a test, nor can they force the hospital to provide a blood sample without a warrant.
Originally Posted By KRANE⏩
Now you have personal proof that there's decent cops out there. Don't let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch.
This is true. I think what upsets most itt is some people including many cops are unable or unwilling to admit that there are bad apples.

Cops need to be held to a higher standard than the crap in this video. I'm not saying you have to treat everyone with kid gloves but this was an obvious case of overreach.
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc⏩
Not sure if srs. You can't force the driver to take a blood test, they have to consent.

If he doesn't comply with the CDL requirement, he loses his license. It doesn't mean the cops have the authority to make him take a test, nor can they force the hospital to provide a blood sample without a warrant.



This is true. I think what upsets most itt is some people including many cops are unable or unwilling to admit that there are bad apples.

Cops need to be held to a higher standard than the crap in this video. I'm not saying you have to treat everyone with kid gloves but this was an obvious case of overreach.
Exigent circumstances are allowed for force blood draws. Whether the officer could articulate his exigent circumstances are again, up to the court, not a nurse
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Exigent circumstances are allowed for force blood draws. Whether the officer could articulate his exigent circumstances are again, up to the court, not a nurse
How does exigent circumstance apply to the truck driver who was hit head on by another driver fleeing from the police? The police had no reasonable suspicion of the truck driver being under the influence.

Not only is that bad enough on it's own, but then try to put the nurse under arrest for what? Exigent circumstance is VERY shaky ground in this case to begin with, you have to reach pretty hard to claim she obstructed an investigation when they had no reasonable suspicion and no warrant.
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc⏩
How does exigent circumstance apply to the truck driver who was hit head on by another driver fleeing from the police? The police had no reasonable suspicion of the truck driver being under the influence.

Not only is that bad enough on it's own, but then try to put the nurse under arrest for what? Exigent circumstance is VERY shaky ground in this case to begin with, you have to reach pretty hard to claim she obstructed an investigation when they had no reasonable suspicion and no warrant.
Correct but again, that is the courts decision, not the nurses
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Correct but again, that is the courts decision, not the nurses
ya lets just forget that the nurse is bound by protocol.

seems reasonable.

he isnt even a suspect but you are treating it as if the officer was full in the right to treat him as such. the officer wasnt which means none of these special circumstances mean a damn thing.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Correct but again, that is the courts decision, not the nurses
The point is it should not have gotten to the point of the court having to decide.

I gotto go to sleep but word of advice: do a little self-reflection and recognize your bias that is evident in this thread. You'll be a better man for it, not a lesser one. Not trying to be a dik, I try my best to do this myself. We all have biases, and the person who stands to benefit the most from recognizing the bias is oneself.
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Originally Posted By superamped⏩
ur missing the point that the truck driver was hit by someone else. there should be no argument of criminal negligence on his part.
The cops wanted someone to blame.

brb chase a guy aggressively to a point where he is reckless to himself and others and eventually messes up
brb we gonna get sued
brb we need to get blood report on this innocent trucker so if he has any drink or drugs in his system we can all go home and not get sued
brb innocent nurse complying with legal and medical codes is arrested for stopping us


US police of peace.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Lmfao at this pathetic low IQ troll who cant come up with an argument because he doesnt even understand what he is talking about. Bravo

Does he have a commercial drivers license? Check

Was he involved in an accident? Check

He gets drug tested.

Good luck with your moron goals of 2018


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lol @ your BS rules.

- guy is in coma
- Nurse has rules to go by
- police don't care
-????????????????????????
- Lets arrest the nurse for doing her job in front of the people who one day could be saving our lives!

If the police do that to health staff who are busy 24/7 and up the arse with rules then its no wonder US police have problems. But sure the truck driver in a coma has to give blood because he has a commercial licence.


lol. Anyone will stick up for ****ty cops if they are in love with them. Stockholme syndrome.
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