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Originally Posted By shoelaces
The thing is I am a complete noob to this. To the point where I don't even know what I am looking for. That's why I really appreciate everyone's help. What should I be doing aside from picking up the guitar and holding it? Will it look stupid if I start strumming butit would clear that I have no clue what I am doing.
Most of the time, GC sales dudes have no clue what theyre doing or saying either. Don't worry about what you look like. Just fkn handle the guitar and hold it.

Honestly, You'd probably feel comfortable with a fender telecaster depending on the size of your hands. Theyre soft, easy to play and they sound pretty good for the price. Just gonna say that rn. I remember feeling like that when I first picked one up back in the day.
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^personally i really do not like fender guitars. Yet again i play mostly metal but in general i think theyre kind of boring looking and dont care for the tone or feel. PRS i feel is the most versatile for the price range and you get amazing quality.
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I can palm a basketball easily. The thing is it looks stupid because my fingers are extra long but not thick so it looks slender and out of proportion. I used to be hardcore self conscious about it when I was younger lol.
thats actually good for guitar though. Look at bucketheads hands. Hes a fukking wizard.
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Originally Posted By AmDrbne1313
You're in really good shape with $1,000. Ten years ago I bought my Schecter Hellraiser with dual BMG active pickups (a good brand of pickups) and a Line 6 75 watt amp with effects. Paid about $800 total. Still have them to this day.

You can buy a fairly decent guitar for $300 and a good 25 watt amp for $100 or so. That way you're not spending a ****load of money on great gear just in case you don't stick with it, but you'll still have a good guitar and amp if you do stick with it.

As far as where to buy, Guitar Center is typically the best place around. They always have deals and have great used gear, too.

Have fun growing callouses on your fingers.
It seems like everyone is big on line 6 amps so I will go with them for sure. Thanks man. Yeah I have a guitar center nearby which I will hit up this weekend for sure. I am pretty excited thinking about it. I was hesitant about it at first but misc convinced me to try learning when I asked about it last week.

Originally Posted By GnarlySheen
Most of the time, GC sales dudes have no clue what theyre doing or saying either. Don't worry about what you look like. Just fkn handle the guitar and hold it.

Honestly, You'd probably feel comfortable with a fender telecaster depending on the size of your hands. Theyre soft, easy to play and they sound pretty good for the price. Just gonna say that rn. I remember feeling like that when I first picked one up back in the day.
Everyone here so far has recommend prs guitars. Are they not comfortable or something? Are fenders more ergonomic? I have long fingers if that makes a difference.
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Only a 1+ year noob here but I find my Standard Tele is very comfortable to play, love it.
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391
^personally i really do not like fender guitars. Yet again i play mostly metal but in general i think theyre kind of boring looking and dont care for the tone or feel. PRS i feel is the most versatile for the price range and you get amazing quality.

thats actually good for guitar though. Look at bucketheads hands. Hes a fukking wizard.
Listening to it now and this is the type of music I really love. That melodic sound. It really puts me in a trance and feel the stresses of life just melt away. Hnnngggg. I also really like older metallica at least the ballads.
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391
^personally i really do not like fender guitars. Yet again i play mostly metal but in general i think theyre kind of boring looking and dont care for the tone or feel. PRS i feel is the most versatile for the price range and you get amazing quality.
Youre talkin to another metal guy here lol

I havnt given PRS much attention but I can vouch for teles. OP just has to go feel them for himself.
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Only a 1+ year noob here but I find my Standard Tele is very comfortable to play, love it.
here you go OP.

Just go feel some guitars. PRS, Fender, Epiphone, etc.
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Originally Posted By GnarlySheen
Youre talkin to another metal guy here lol

I havnt given PRS much attention but I can vouch for teles. OP just has to go feel them for himself.
So what I should I be looking for? Just strumming and picking the strings? What are some of the key factors in ergonomics when it comes to electric guitars? I figure the neck length matters a lot right? Thanks man.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Listening to it now and this is the type of music I really love. That melodic sound. It really puts me in a trance and feel the stresses of life just melt away. Hnnngggg. I also really like older metallica at least the ballads.
Man buckethead has some amazing stuff, hes got over 300 albums. A lot of them are real weird but a lot of them are also some of the best guitar albums ive ever heard. Hes an incredible player. Soothsayer the album version is probably my all time favorite guitar solo.
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391
Man buckethead has some amazing stuff, hes got over 300 albums. A lot of them are real weird but a lot of them are also some of the best guitar albums ive ever heard. Hes an incredible player. Soothsayer the album version is probably my all time favorite guitar solo.
I just like anything that has a good melody. Rock, metal, rnb, edm, jazz, etc. If the artist/song has a good melody then I will like it.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
It seems like everyone is big on line 6 amps so I will go with them for sure. Thanks man. Yeah I have a guitar center nearby which I will hit up this weekend for sure. I am pretty excited thinking about it. I was hesitant about it at first but misc convinced me to try learning when I asked about it last week.








Everyone here so far has recommend prs guitars. Are they not comfortable or something? Are fenders more ergonomic? I have long fingers if that makes a difference.
Line 6 is a solid amp and is affordable. Similar quality amps from Marshall or other big-name brands are typically more expensive.

PRS is, IMO, one of the best guitar makers out there. The research is insane. My cousin is the guitarist for I Prevail and the **** he gets and sees from them is unreal. But, the guitars are expensive for a reason and usually it's experienced players who buy them.

Fenders are excellent guitars. People usually get them because of the brand name and because they are dependable. So many middle-aged men have the same strats they first bought when they were in high school. Epiphone is a solid brand, too. Their Les Paul style model is pretty popular and is good quality.

Just go in to a store and check out what you can. Get a feel for it in your lap and hands. Guitar Center literally hundreds of guitars for you to try out. Don't worry about not strumming correctly either. Plenty of first-timers walk in there all the time.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
So what I should I be looking for? Just strumming and picking the strings? What are some of the key factors in ergonomics when it comes to electric guitars? I figure the neck length matters a lot right? Thanks man.
how your hands feel on the neck, how it fits on your body and how comfortable it would be to play for hours on end. Also how easily you can form chords or do a quick run up the neck. Look at the frets and make sure everything is even and make sure the strings arent buzzing along the neck when you play.
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Originally Posted By AmDrbne1313
Just go in to a store and check out what you can. Get a feel for it in your lap and hands. Guitar Center literally hundreds of guitars for you to try out. Don't worry about not strumming correctly either. Plenty of first-timers walk in there all the time.
This is what I needed to hear. I know it sounds stupid as a grown adult but sometimes I can get real self conscious when I have no clue what I am doing. I think since I only have a few hobbies and since I have been doing them for years/decades I forget the first time nerves exist.
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might want to get a lower end jackson if you like rock and metal, they are used by John Mayer (who plays blues) but all the GOAT's in metal/jazz fusion use/used them during their career. beautifully made instruments

and of course, the only man to reach technical perfection on guitar had one

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Originally Posted By deadhead6391
how your hands feel on the neck, how it fits on your body and how comfortable it would be to play for hours on end. Also how easily you can form chords or do a quick run up the neck. Look at the frets and make sure everything is even and make sure the strings arent buzzing along the neck when you play.
Ohhh good tips. Btw I am listening to that song you posted in the background on loop. Man it is soo good. Especially when he starts going off. I feel this intense wave of euphoria come over me srs. I get this feeling sometimes when I really enjoy a song, meal, scene from a movie, etc. Like my sense are flooded. Hard to describe.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Ohhh good tips. Btw I am listening to that song you posted in the background on loop. Man it is soo good. Especially when he starts going off. I feel this intense wave of euphoria come over me srs. I get this feeling sometimes when I really enjoy a song, meal, scene from a movie, etc. Like my sense are flooded. Hard to describe.
Yeah man i know exactly what you mean lol. Same thing haooened to me when i heard him play. Some parts in the studio version still make me catch the feels after 12 years of listebing to it.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
This is what I needed to hear. I know it sounds stupid as a grown adult but sometimes I can get real self conscious when I have no clue what I am doing. I think since I only have a few hobbies and since I have been doing them for years/decades I forget the first time nerves exist.
We all were beginners at one point. As far as string thickness, standard gauge is 11, and if you have average sized fingers that will be fine. But honestly string thickness doesn't matter all that much. It's really just whatever the player prefers.

Longer fingers are better for playing for sure. As far as ergonomics go, most necks are relatively the same size, give or take. I don't know of any brands with dramatically different neck thickness, i.e., the distance between your fingers on the fretboard and your palm on the back of the neck. That type of thing can really affect the way a guitar sounds negatively.
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo
might want to get a lower end jackson if you like rock and metal, they are used by John Mayer (who plays blues) but all the GOAT's in metal/jazz fusion use/used them during their career. beautifully made instruments

and of course, the only man to reach technical perfection on guitar had one
I have no clue who that is lol. I really like little wing by hendrix too. Btw I am going to be playing sitting down on a chair 90% of the time. Does it make a difference in what kind of guitar I should get from an ergonomics stand point?
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Originally Posted By AmDrbne1313
We all were beginners at one point. As far as string thickness, standard gauge is 11, and if you have average sized fingers that will be fine. But honestly string thickness doesn't matter all that much. It's really just whatever the player prefers.

Longer fingers are better for playing for sure. As far as ergonomics go, most necks are relatively the same size, give or take. I don't know of any brands with dramatically different neck thickness, i.e., the distance between your fingers on the fretboard and your palm on the back of the neck. That type of thing can really affect the way a guitar sounds negatively.
I did not even consider string thickness. I just figured it was standardized. How do I know the thickness of the strings on a particular model? Is it listed on the stat sheet?
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
I have no clue who that is lol. I really like little wing by hendrix too. Btw I am going to be playing sitting down on a chair 90% of the time. Does it make a difference in what kind of guitar I should get from an ergonomics stand point?
i wouldnt get a flying v or any weird shaoed guitar because sitting there for hours trying to hunch over and get comfortable is a challenge. Prs fender jackson and gibson all make pretty comfortable guitars. My favorite feel wise has aleays been prs and the agile 7 string i bought a couple years ago.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
I have no clue who that is lol. I really like little wing by hendrix too. Btw I am going to be playing sitting down on a chair 90% of the time. Does it make a difference in what kind of guitar I should get from an ergonomics stand point?
if you plan on playing in a band or anywhere, i would not practice sitting down, it competely changes the mechanics of how you play. When i started it took me a month to get to how i was playing seated, apart from that it doesnt matter what guitar you have

that man is Shawn Lane, a total anomally on guitar and some of his stuff is impossible to play, even by the best living guitarist Guthrie Govan

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Originally Posted By deadhead6391
i wouldnt get a flying v or any weird shaoed guitar because sitting there for hours trying to hunch over and get comfortable is a challenge. Prs fender jackson and gibson all make pretty comfortable guitars. My favorite feel wise has aleays been prs and the agile 7 string i bought a couple years ago.
What is a flying v? What is the shape that would be comfortable for playing just sitting down? I figure I am going to put in hours of practice every day at first to acclimate myself. I want to give myself the best shot for comfort.

Great insights posted by all in this thread. Thanks. Will rep you guys on recharge. Think I am on spread with a lot of people in here already though lol.
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo
if you plan on playing in a band or anywhere, i would not practice sitting down, it competely changes the mechanics of how you play. When i started it took me a month to get to how i was playing seated, apart from that it doesnt matter what guitar you have

that man is Shawn Lane, a total anomally on guitar and some of his stuff is impossible to play, even by the best living guitarist Guthrie Govan
Did not even realize that sitting down vs standing up made such a huge difference. So I should be practicing standing up at first? What is the reasoning behind it? Interesting.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Did not even realize that sitting down vs standing up made such a huge difference. So I should be practicing standing up at first? What is the reasoning behind it? Interesting.
sitting down makes it so much easier, because your arm is more bent you have more freedom over your hand movements
when you start playing standing up the guitar is typically hanging lower and it makes it alot more awkward to play, when some players go on the really tricky runs, they might pull the guitar up higher or rest it on their knee to get that extra arm freedom
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
I did not even consider string thickness. I just figured it was standardized. How do I know the thickness of the strings on a particular model? Is it listed on the stat sheet?
Most makers are anywhere between 9-12, there isn't a huge difference between them and a beginner wouldn't really tell the difference. The string sizes are kinda complicated. Mine are 11, which is pretty standard, and it means the thinnest string is .011 inches in diameter and the thickest being .046 inches in diameter. The rep would be able to find the info for you, but honestly don't worry about it at all. Like I said you truly won't know the difference until you have a few months of experience.

It's kind of like neck thickness. Some profiles are thicker toward the bottom of your hand and others are thicker towards the top. But the difference is honeslty a matter of a few millimeters.

Don't overthink it. I didn't know any of this stuff when I first started. Just pick the one that feels best in your lap, best in your hands and smoothest as you work down the fretboard. It's all personal preference. Once you figure it out you can learn the specifics.

Over time you'll play other guitars (stores, friends, etc.) and you'll notice the differences. Usually you'll be pleasantly surprised. But honestly you can't know what you like the most without learning the instrument and how to play first. For right now just find something comfortable in you hands.
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Originally Posted By BuddyBoyo
sitting down makes it so much easier, because your arm is more bent you have more freedom over your hand movements
when you start playing standing up the guitar is typically hanging lower and it makes it alot more awkward to play, when some players go on the really tricky runs, they might pull the guitar up higher or rest it on their knee to get that extra arm freedom
Wouldn't I want it to be easier when I first start playing? Or does that just reinforce bad habits from the start? Great post. Learning a lot already. Any other little tips/tricks I should be aware of? Thanks buddy.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
What is a flying v? What is the shape that would be comfortable for playing just sitting down? I figure I am going to put in hours of practice every day at first to acclimate myself. I want to give myself the best shot for comfort.

Great insights posted by all in this thread. Thanks. Will rep you guys on recharge. Think I am on spread with a lot of people in here already though lol.
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Personally i almost always play sitting down. Standing up can be weird at first but its not bad. If youre spending hours a day learning at first youre not gonna wanna be standing especially if your focusing on reading tabs or watching instructional videos. You can practice both ways to get used to it but either way youre gonna want a guitar thats comfortable both sitting and standing.
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Originally Posted By AmDrbne1313
Most makers are anywhere between 9-12, there isn't a huge difference between them and a beginner wouldn't really tell the difference. The string sizes are kinda complicated. Mine are 11, which is pretty standard, and it means the thinnest string is .011 inches in diameter and the thickest being .046 inches in diameter. The rep would be able to find the info for you, but honestly don't worry about it at all. Like I said you truly won't know the difference until you have a few months of experience.

It's kind of like neck thickness. Some profiles are thicker toward the bottom of your hand and others are thicker towards the top. But the difference is honeslty a matter of a few millimeters.

Don't overthink it. I didn't know any of this stuff when I first started. Just pick the one that feels best in your lap, best in your hands and smoothest as you work down the fretboard. It's all personal preference. Once you figure it out you can learn the specifics.

Over time you'll play other guitars (stores, friends, etc.) and you'll notice the differences. Usually you'll be pleasantly surprised. But honestly you can't know what you like the most without learning the interment and how to play first. For right now just find something comfortable in you hands.
Dude you don't understand I LOVE to obsess over little details like this. I can have full blown conservations lasting hours about subtle nuances that most people would never notice or care about. Sounds like this hobby was a match made in heaven. I love to tinker around to make small tweaks and changes srs. That in of itself is enjoyable to me.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Wouldn't I want it to be easier when I first start playing? Or does that just reinforce bad habits from the start? Great post. Learning a lot already. Any other little tips/tricks I should be aware of? Thanks buddy.
guitar relies so heavily on muscle memory, you want to learn the correct way right off the bat
there is a vid of steve vai playing a song on a fans guitar at his show and he starts flubbing notes left right and centre, this a man who has probably spent 20,000 hours playing lol
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391
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Personally i almost always play sitting down. Standing up can be weird at first but its not bad. If youre spending hours a day learning at first youre not gonna wanna be standing especially if your focusing on reading tabs or watching instructional videos. You can practice both ways to get used to it but either way youre gonna want a guitar thats comfortable both sitting and standing.
Yeah I would never go for a crazy design like that lol. Looking for a standard guitar shape. Also I thought I would be just looking at tutorials while I play so naturally I would be sitting down in front of a screen. Standing up and playing sound really straining. But at the same time I don't want to reinforce bad habits from the start.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Dude you don't understand I LOVE to obsess over little details like this. I can have full blown conservations lasting hours about subtle nuances that most people would never notice or care about. Sounds like this hobby was a match made in heaven. I love to tinker around to make small tweaks and changes srs. That in of itself is enjoyable to me.
Thats a good thing. You'll be a better player because of it. But I could tell you the inns and outs and specifications all day, but none of it will make any sense from a practical standpoint until you actually learn to play it. It took me a solid 6 months to notice the difference in my neck thickness than in someone else's. It took at least 3 months before I noticed the action of my guitar (the distance between the strings and the fretboard) than in someone else's. It took 2 years for me to realize I preferred thick and small picks for electric guitar and very thin, standard length picks for acoustic. It took another 5 years for me to realize that I prefer finger picking acoustics over strumming.

All of the specifics are great to know but they won't serve you any purpose if you don't know how to play. The good news, being as technical as you are, you might just learn a lot more a lot faster.
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