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post 1536889591 12-08-2017, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
That doesn't prove anything. I'm talking about MEASURABLE proof. I have yet to see any actual proof of curvature.
wut? you can literally see it from a plane
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
That doesn't prove anything. I'm talking about MEASURABLE proof. I have yet to see any actual proof of curvature.
Are you familiar with the concept of an airplane's autopilot system? Explain to me why the heading changes continuously throughout the flight to follow the Earth's curvature. If the Earth were flat and an airplane's autopilot continuously made adjustments to the airplane's heading, the airplane wouldn't reach its intended destination. It's literally being measured by a computer in real time, how is that not "measurable proof"?
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post 1536889991 12-08-2017, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Malakaibeats⏩
Not quite sure how applying a real, proven flight path to a fictitious map disproves my point. The point is, the airplane DOESN'T fly in a straight line at all, it flies according to the Earth's curvature to make the path more efficient in fuel consumption and time. There are empirical ways of measuring the small heading changes that the airplane's autopilot continuously makes to follow the curvature.
My point is that the flight path is the same whether on a sphere or on a flat earth map. The globe map is basically the flat earth map wrapped around a ball.

By the way, do you have any evidence that aircraft constantly adjust their direction downward to maintain the same altitude on a curved earth?
post 1536890081 12-08-2017, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted By white_pele⏩


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wut? you can literally see it from a plane
LOL are you talking about the curved windows on passenger planes which creates the fish-eye lens effect?
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Originally Posted By Malakaibeats⏩
Are you familiar with the concept of an airplane's autopilot system? Explain to me why the heading changes continuously throughout the flight to follow the Earth's curvature. If the Earth were flat and an airplane's autopilot continuously made adjustments to the airplane's heading, the airplane wouldn't reach its intended destination. It's literally being measured by a computer in real time, how is that not "measurable proof"?
Do you even realize that on both the globe and the flat earth model the plane is traveling in a straight line? The only reason it appears curved is because the map you see on the flight monitors is not the actual map of the earth, whether a sphere or flat.
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I think this settles it

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Ain't nothing floating up there at 250 miles.
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post 1536890601 12-08-2017, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
Flat earthers believe time zones are explained by the sun being much closer, with it revolving above the flat plane.



We'd still be able to see the sun
post 1536890811 12-08-2017, 05:47 AM
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After the anti-vaxxers taking a bit of a hold, nothing would surprise me as being real. Poe's law went 100% into effect for me after that.

After the election, however, I realized that vocal minorities can seem really, really big.
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post 1536890901 12-08-2017, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted By white_pele⏩
wut? you can literally see it from a plane
No, you can't.

And I'm talking about measurable proof...
post 1536890921 12-08-2017, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
Do you even realize that on both the globe and the flat earth model the plane is traveling in a straight line? The only reason it appears curved is because the map you see on the flight monitors is not the actual map of the earth, whether a sphere or flat.
Maybe I didn't explain myself clearly. I'll put it very simply: for your theory to be correct, you'd have to prove to me that an airplane's navigation system doesn't take into account the curvature of the Earth (except for a heading North/South or East/West along the Equator).
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
No, you can't.

And I'm talking about measurable proof...
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you've never been on a transatlantic flight.. Measurable proof? How about travel around the world moron, start in one point, go west, end up back in the same spot
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post 1536891491 12-08-2017, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted By white_pele⏩
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you've never been on a transatlantic flight.. Measurable proof? How about travel around the world moron, start in one point, go west, end up back in the same spot
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post 1536891791 12-08-2017, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
No, you can't.

And I'm talking about measurable proof...
Again, look into the formula that commercial airliners' navigation systems employ to take into account the Earth's curvature. It's mathematically measurable proof. If you can prove that an airliner's navigation systems DO NOT take the Earth's curvature into account, then you have a case.

If the navigation systems DO take the Earth's curvature into account and an airplane can fly from point A to point B over a long distance with precision, then the Earth is a sphere. As simple as that.
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post 1536892021 12-08-2017, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted By GnarlySheen⏩
srsly, no one can rustle more jimmies than by saying what they say.
If this thread doesn't show proof of this lol
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
No, you can't.

And I'm talking about measurable proof...
10/10 trolling.
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post 1536892341 12-08-2017, 06:34 AM
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post 1536892381 12-08-2017, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
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Hi, I'd like to book a flight please.
Ok sir where to?
You got anything going west?
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your point?
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Have any flat earths came out with a reason WHY there’s this big elaborate non sensical hoax?
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
No, you can't.

And I'm talking about measurable proof...
There are weather balloons at 80,000 feet that can detect the curvature of the earth.
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
My point is that the flight path is the same whether on a sphere or on a flat earth map. The globe map is basically the flat earth map wrapped around a ball.

By the way, do you have any evidence that aircraft constantly adjust their direction downward to maintain the same altitude on a curved earth?
No, they do not adjust for altitude because they fly within the Earth's atmosphere which also follows the curvature of the Earth. Altitude is measured from the Earth's surface, which is curved, therefore no adjustments are necessary as long as the airplane is holding a fixed altitude.

What the navigation systems do adjust is heading, where the Earth's curvature applies to their path, as in, any flight path that isn't East/West along the Equator or North/South. This isn't done actively by the pilots, because it's a built-in formula that allows the systems to take the Earth's curvature into account when mapping a flight path.
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post 1536893881 12-08-2017, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Malakaibeats⏩
Again, look into the formula that commercial airliners' navigation systems employ to take into account the Earth's curvature. It's mathematically measurable proof. If you can prove that an airliner's navigation systems DO NOT take the Earth's curvature into account, then you have a case.

If the navigation systems DO take the Earth's curvature into account and an airplane can fly from point A to point B over a long distance with precision, then the Earth is a sphere. As simple as that.
The navigation systems do not take the earth' s curvature into account. They use a flat earth model. I can provide the proof just give me some time.
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Originally Posted By AlvinDavenport⏩
Ain't nothing floating up there at 250 miles.
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Flat earthers always say there's no proof of the earth being round but there sure as hell isn't any of the earth being flat lmao.

Get a telescope and go to the highest building and look out. If there world was flat you would be able to see everything
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Originally Posted By AlvinDavenport⏩
The navigation systems do not take the earth' s curvature into account. They use a flat earth model. I can provide the proof just give me some time.
Are you talking about whether they adjust for altitude or whether they adjust for heading? I explained in my previous post why they don't adjust for altitude. I'm talking about heading. It's not a perfectly straight line, even on a spherical map and adjustments to heading need to be made along the route. The navigation systems take this into account. I believe the formula is something along the lines of 8 inches adjustment per mile traveled. It's a very small adjustment, but it does nevertheless prove the Earth's curvature and obviously the airplane's navigation systems need to be calibrated to take this into account.

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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
In order to even contemplate the possibility of flat earth theory, you need to consider the possibility that everything we've been told about gravitational physics is a hoax with formulas created based on presuppositions to support the globe earth model. To put it bluntly, flat earthers do not believe that gravity exists. They do not believe in planets, stars, solar systems, and the entire concept of space either. They believe that everything NASA and other space agencies have released since the moon landings is fake. They believe that space agencies are controlled by Freemasons who have been intentionally deceiving humanity for centuries.
So, what you are saying, we are being trolled by NASA-which would be the greatest troll in history other than the bible and other religions. Or flat-earthers are great trolls. Either way, we are being trolled.
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Originally Posted By albeezy512⏩
Flat earthers always say there's no proof of the earth being round but there sure as hell isn't any of the earth being flat lmao.

Get a telescope and go to the highest building and look out. If there world was flat you would be able to see everything
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
Take a look at this flat earth map and draw a straight line between Kuwait and New York. I'm pretty sure it goes STRAIGHT THROUGH London.



Interesting how no human in history has ever circumnavigated the globe across the South Pole.



Flat earthers do not believe that the South Pole exists. They believe the center is the North Pole with the continents located around it, and the "edge" is Antarctica which is an ice wall. We don't know what's beyond the "edge" because there is an international treaty in place banning anyone from exploring Antarctica.





They don't want us to go beyond the wall cuz the Night King has a dragon now.
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Think about it though, if you take a photograph of Earth, the shape of it may be round, but the photograph itself is flat, because it came from Earth
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It's funny watching people struggle with this understanding while still trying to appeal to the massive celestial distances/understanding of "space" that arose from the Copernican model and all the space programming we've been subjected to since birth.

Better questions in considering the shape/characteristics of where you live would be:

- What evidence makes you believe you're actually spinning right now at around 850ish miles per hour(assuming US location)?
- What kind of of inverse square curvature would allow for some of these photographs taken at well in excess of 100 miles distance?

The difference in the theories is axial rotation and curvature, so to debunk or support the theory you would start there.
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