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22 year old woman mauled to death by her own pitbulls
22 year old woman mauled to death by her own pitbulls
12-16-2017, 08:11 PM
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My sister owns 3 dogs.
One is a pitbull, one is a valley bulldog, one is the offspring of both.
The male (the pitbull) is a nut, would probably bite and has to be isolated.
The other two are fine.
The story honestly doesn't make any sense though, some tabloid sh!t, where do you guys get these stupid fukking stories?
It's like that sh!t I see on ******** about 200 year old man confirmed, look on wikipedia for a list of oldest confirmed people, myth debunked.
Some dog breeds have a more aggressive disposition than other breeds, I grew up with animals.
One is a pitbull, one is a valley bulldog, one is the offspring of both.
The male (the pitbull) is a nut, would probably bite and has to be isolated.
The other two are fine.
The story honestly doesn't make any sense though, some tabloid sh!t, where do you guys get these stupid fukking stories?
It's like that sh!t I see on ******** about 200 year old man confirmed, look on wikipedia for a list of oldest confirmed people, myth debunked.
Some dog breeds have a more aggressive disposition than other breeds, I grew up with animals.
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12-16-2017, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted By GnarlySheen⏩
then how come the body had lacerations consistent with animal mauling? including defensive wounds from bites on the arms, head, neck, etc..."Friends say Stephens had recently been receiving death threats prior to the incident, which is another reason why they question whether the dogs were to blame."
Yeah, the dogs were used as a cover up for someone who actually did this.
Yeah, the dogs were used as a cover up for someone who actually did this.
the only other animals would be a coyote (do not attack adult humans), cougars don't exist in virginia, or a black bear (only nears in virginia, the only possible alternative from the description. possible but unlikely as they rarely confront humans)
12-16-2017, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted By xmeandix⏩
I'm so sorry about your gf's dog.Went to a dog park with my gfs Chihuahua who is afraid of everything. Wasn't there 30 seconds he was walking along the edge of the fence away from all the other dogs and a German shepherd came running up to him, with no warning, no smelling he grabbed her by the neck and it was so severe that we had to put him down. Fuk shepherds. Ever since then the aggressive dogs at the dog park is always the shepherds
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Originally Posted By Legz422⏩
I've volunteered in pit bull rescue for years boyo. I know about these dogs. It's fuking media myths.
Originally Posted By Legz422⏩
Its usually dogs that are a Pitbull mix. Because they are far more likely to have some dumbass owner that doesn't train them or teach them discipline.Jeezus Dogsbite.org. What a fukking joke.
The majority of dog bites attributed to Pit Bulls weren't even Pits.
The majority of dog bites attributed to Pit Bulls weren't even Pits.
All dogs have the potential to turn or bite some random person. The difference with Pitbulls are the potential to do harm when they actually do.
Originally Posted By GnarlySheen⏩
Its possible but it would turn up in an autopsy. If all of the evidence points towards her being mauled there are only two options."Friends say Stephens had recently been receiving death threats prior to the incident, which is another reason why they question whether the dogs were to blame."
Yeah, the dogs were used as a cover up for someone who actually did this.
Yeah, the dogs were used as a cover up for someone who actually did this.
1. She went for a walk, got attacked/mauled by some random animal, her dogs heard her crys for help and ran to save her and guard her already dead body.
2. She took her dogs for a walk and something happened that caused her dogs to turn on her and kill her. The kennels were previously fukked up and nobody knew.
I have a hard time believing that two dogs turned on her during a walk. But that is a lot more likely them some kind of murder and someone trained an animal to maul her body to sway the evidence. If the evidence points to it being a murder I'd be curious as to who or what mauled her body.
I've seen a lot of bodies from various forms of death. For an actual murder its usually a messy/ panicked scene. Very few people are capable of a cold blooded murder, planting evidence/trying to frame someone/something else. That's literally one in a million. If not longer odds then that.
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12-16-2017, 08:17 PM
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I have a rescue pit and she is very protective, but in my opinion, they are affected more by their environment rather than their natural disposition. I think the reason a lot of these dogs end up attacking and being overly aggressive is because they're kept crated or chained up all day. My dog isn't even socialized very well, but she doesn't get aggressive with people or attack. She is afraid of everyone if anything.
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12-16-2017, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Legz422⏩
Dafuq outta here with your BS you dried up old hoebag.Can't lock down a Chad? Don't make me fuking fall over laughing you stupid fuk.
I am not overly fond of small dogs, but I pretty much love all dogs. I just happen to have been around hundreds of Pits/bullies and I'm someone who roots for the underdog. I've been in bully breed rescue since 2012. I know what the fuk I'm talking about. I know the good, the bad and the ugly about Pit Bulls.Mostof the bad and ugly are media myths. Are they bred to fight other dogs? Yes, sadly and tragically. Are they strong dogs? Yes, of course. They don't have the strongest jaws, though. That's a myth. Pit Bulls were not bred to be human aggressive and anyone who thinks that is a fuking idiot. Do your research before you spout off about stuff you know nothing about. And no, not on Dogsbite.org FFS.
I am not overly fond of small dogs, but I pretty much love all dogs. I just happen to have been around hundreds of Pits/bullies and I'm someone who roots for the underdog. I've been in bully breed rescue since 2012. I know what the fuk I'm talking about. I know the good, the bad and the ugly about Pit Bulls.Mostof the bad and ugly are media myths. Are they bred to fight other dogs? Yes, sadly and tragically. Are they strong dogs? Yes, of course. They don't have the strongest jaws, though. That's a myth. Pit Bulls were not bred to be human aggressive and anyone who thinks that is a fuking idiot. Do your research before you spout off about stuff you know nothing about. And no, not on Dogsbite.org FFS.
Pitbull bites produce more damage than any other common breed.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475022
It's not just bite strength, it's the fact that they have heavily muscled necks and jaws and can hold the bite for a long time, while jerking the victim from side to side causing a lot of extra damage. Add the fact that their temperaments are mercurial at best, and you've got a ticking timebomb. You literally can't easily count how many stories there are of pit bulls who "never harmed a fly" until one day they snapped and bit somebody and that first attack also happened to be a fatal attack.
That dogsbite.org site is run by a survivor of a pit bull attack who was sick and tired of the "pit bulls are sweet and safe" cult lying about the dangers of the breed.
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just pick a different breed
stupid ass people
Not sure about these dogs killing her tho, judging from the pics looks like she took care of them.
stupid ass people
Not sure about these dogs killing her tho, judging from the pics looks like she took care of them.
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Originally Posted By HenryBoogers⏩
really ? Because I've yet to see people of that nature walking German Shepards around.... only "pitbulls" and any other mutt the media calls Pitts. Yes, some dogs are more aggressive but when a breed is mostly owned by lowlife thugs what do you think is gonna happen?Many of them, yes. But how many black labs do you see with spike collars on them and how many issues are they causing? It's a cycle that is propagated by the fact that ****ty people often gravitate towards more violent breeds and treat them poorly which results in incident. While I am focusing on the nature of the dog it seems you are focusing on the environment, and I don't think either is wrong; in fact it is quite often both.
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Originally Posted By PeteRubish⏩
exactly. People domt want to step on toes and say who usually owns Pitts.I have a rescue pit and she is very protective, but in my opinion, they are affected more by their environment rather than their natural disposition. I think the reason a lot of these dogs end up attacking and being overly aggressive is because they're kept crated or chained up all day. My dog isn't even socialized very well, but she doesn't get aggressive with people or attack. She is afraid of everyone if anything.
12-16-2017, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
You can't come up with anything besides personal insults? Which really aren't insults because you're so wrong about what your saying about my looks it's actually hilarious.Dafuq outta here with your BS you dried up old hoebag.
Pitbull bites produce more damage than any other common breed.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475022
It's not just bite strength, it's the fact that they have heavily muscled necks and jaws and can hold the bite for a long time, while jerking the victim from side to side causing a lot of extra damage. Add the fact that their temperaments are mercurial at best, and you've got a ticking timebomb. You literally can't easily count how many stories there are of pit bulls who "never harmed a fly" until one day they snapped and bit somebody and that first attack also happened to be a fatal attack.
That dogsbite.org site is run by a survivor of a pit bull attack who was sick and tired of the "pit bulls are sweet and safe" cult lying about the dangers of the breed.
Pitbull bites produce more damage than any other common breed.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475022
It's not just bite strength, it's the fact that they have heavily muscled necks and jaws and can hold the bite for a long time, while jerking the victim from side to side causing a lot of extra damage. Add the fact that their temperaments are mercurial at best, and you've got a ticking timebomb. You literally can't easily count how many stories there are of pit bulls who "never harmed a fly" until one day they snapped and bit somebody and that first attack also happened to be a fatal attack.
That dogsbite.org site is run by a survivor of a pit bull attack who was sick and tired of the "pit bulls are sweet and safe" cult lying about the dangers of the breed.
Why don't you go google Dogsbite.org. The entire first page is articles about why it's not a valid site.
http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogbl...gsbiteorg.html
https://adbadog.com/truth-behind-dogsbite-org/
https://ethicsalarms.com/2015/10/20/...-dogsbite-org/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/steff...b_8112394.html
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Originally Posted By Legz422⏩
But calling somebody a stupid fuk isn't a personal insult?? Interdasting...You can't come up with anything besides personal insults? Which really aren't insults because you're so wrong about what your saying about my looks it's actually hilarious.
Why don't you go google Dogsbite.org. The entire first page is articles about why it's not a valid site.
http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogbl...gsbiteorg.html
https://adbadog.com/truth-behind-dogsbite-org/
https://ethicsalarms.com/2015/10/20/...-dogsbite-org/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/steff...b_8112394.html
Why don't you go google Dogsbite.org. The entire first page is articles about why it's not a valid site.
http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogbl...gsbiteorg.html
https://adbadog.com/truth-behind-dogsbite-org/
https://ethicsalarms.com/2015/10/20/...-dogsbite-org/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/steff...b_8112394.html
I didn't quote dogsbite.org for anything other than it being the source of the photos of those children who were killed by pitbulls or pitbull mixes so far this year. Are you claiming that those children are still alive? Or are you just uncomfortable that a site like dogsbite.org exists to keep a running total of the lives ruined by pitbulls (and to a much lesser extent, other breeds)?
Citing 4 separate websites that disparage dosgbite.org doesn't change the fact that those children are dead. Those 4 separate websites also should be checked to make sure they're not part of the "pitbulls are safe and sweet" cult. The wording I read on one of them makes it clear that it is.
Pitbulls are dangerous dogs and this is an obvious example where the common good should trump your rights as an individual. Much like I accept the fact that I can't own an RPG, you should accept the fact that certain animals should not be owned by the general public.
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12-16-2017, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
The fact that those children are dead is a tragedy. That is a horrible thing to happen to a child. However, like I have said in this thread multiple times, when dog bites/fatalities due to dog bites happen the media sensationalizes it and says it was a Pit Bull. Often, it is not a Pit Bull. The stats on Dogsbite.org are not even accurate and she is not an expert on dog behavior.But calling somebody a stupid fuk isn't a personal insult?? Interdasting...
I didn't quote dogsbite.org for anything other than it being the source of the photos of those children who were killed by pitbulls or pitbull mixes so far this year. Are you claiming that those children are still alive? Or are you just uncomfortable that a site like dogsbite.org exists to keep a running total of the lives ruined by pitbulls (and to a much lesser extent, other breeds)?
Citing 4 separate websites that disparage dosgbite.org doesn't change the fact that those children are dead. Those 4 separate websites also should be checked to make sure they're not part of the "pitbulls are safe and sweet" cult. The wording I read on one of them makes it clear that it is.
Pitbulls are dangerous dogs and this is an obvious example where the common good should trump your rights as an individual. Much like I accept the fact that I can't own an RPG, you should accept the fact that certain animals should not be owned by the general public.
I didn't quote dogsbite.org for anything other than it being the source of the photos of those children who were killed by pitbulls or pitbull mixes so far this year. Are you claiming that those children are still alive? Or are you just uncomfortable that a site like dogsbite.org exists to keep a running total of the lives ruined by pitbulls (and to a much lesser extent, other breeds)?
Citing 4 separate websites that disparage dosgbite.org doesn't change the fact that those children are dead. Those 4 separate websites also should be checked to make sure they're not part of the "pitbulls are safe and sweet" cult. The wording I read on one of them makes it clear that it is.
Pitbulls are dangerous dogs and this is an obvious example where the common good should trump your rights as an individual. Much like I accept the fact that I can't own an RPG, you should accept the fact that certain animals should not be owned by the general public.
Pit Bulls are not dangerous dogs. I have been around hundreds and have never once been bitten. The dogs I have been around were abused/neglected/you name it. They were in a stressful shelter, scared, some injured and in pain. Not.one.bite. In years and handling hundreds of Pit Bulls/bully breeds. I have known people that had labs that bit. I have known people that have had shepherds that bit. Should we say that all labs and all shepherds are a menace to society?
We are going to have to agree to disagree here. I have experience with these dogs and plenty of research to back up my claims. You're not going to change my mind.
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12-16-2017, 09:38 PM
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It should be very easy to tell if she was mauled by the dogs or not. Bloody dog faces, ton skin, puncture pattern marks means the dogs did it. Clean slashes, uniform wound edges, no dog saliva in body means it was probably a person. Size of wound would be obvious if it were a bear.
Unless she was attacked by wolves or pack of coyotes idk what the confusion could be from.
Unless she was attacked by wolves or pack of coyotes idk what the confusion could be from.
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Originally Posted By Legz422⏩
The story is extremely odd. I hope they do dna testing on her wound marks against the dogs.Too many inconsistencies. They said the dogs crates were busted open and that the dogs were guarding her. Sounds to me like she got mauled by a wild animal and the dogs heard her and busted out to protect her. The crates wouldn't be broken open if she just took them for a walk. People just want to sensationalize the myths about Pit Bull type dogs.
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Originally Posted By SrsnotSrs1⏩
Yep, chain the dog up out back all day and see what happens. All of these stories point back to the owner's 9 times out 10. I've been around pits for a few years now and while I think there can be some bad apples in the bunch, I also believe that if people properly took care of them from birth, we wouldn't be hearing about this kind of thing.exactly. People domt want to step on toes and say who usually owns Pitts.
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She’s probably one of those “my pit bulls wouldn’t hurt a fly, look I let them babysit my kids” type retards
Same type of people who ride motorcycles or mess with illicit substances “because it won’t happen to me”
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Originally Posted By Legz422⏩
Are you actually this stupid on how dogs react to humans after all your experience or are you exaggerating and making it up? Surely you have figured out dogs react to people. You clearly know how to be calm and handle them. When people get nervous, scared, panicky... that’s when chit goes down.The fact that those children are dead is a tragedy. That is a horrible thing to happen to a child. However, like I have said in this thread multiple times, when dog bites/fatalities due to dog bites happen the media sensationalizes it and says it was a Pit Bull. Often, it is not a Pit Bull. The stats on Dogsbite.org are not even accurate and she is not an expert on dog behavior.
Pit Bulls are not dangerous dogs. I have been around hundreds and have never once been bitten. The dogs I have been around were abused/neglected/you name it. They were in a stressful shelter, scared, some injured and in pain. Not.one.bite. In years and handling hundreds of Pit Bulls/bully breeds. I have known people that had labs that bit. I have known people that have had shepherds that bit. Should we say that all labs and all shepherds are a menace to society?
We are going to have to agree to disagree here. I have experience with these dogs and plenty of research to back up my claims. You're not going to change my mind.
Pit Bulls are not dangerous dogs. I have been around hundreds and have never once been bitten. The dogs I have been around were abused/neglected/you name it. They were in a stressful shelter, scared, some injured and in pain. Not.one.bite. In years and handling hundreds of Pit Bulls/bully breeds. I have known people that had labs that bit. I have known people that have had shepherds that bit. Should we say that all labs and all shepherds are a menace to society?
We are going to have to agree to disagree here. I have experience with these dogs and plenty of research to back up my claims. You're not going to change my mind.
I grew up with Rottweilers in the 90s when they had the pit bulls current rap. Best dogs ever, used to wrestle with me all the time play fight etc. until I get bit in the hand because I had cornered a dog under a table and it backed into the corner while playfighting and panicked.
Or when some kid stuck his head INTO our car into our space and got his nose ripped open.
These were all highly trained, follow verbal commands to a T very expensive guard dogs.
Don’t give me this bullchit about being delusional to dogs like this being able to get triggered. It happens all the time. And just because you know how to handle being around them doesn’t mean everyone does, and you should know its not on peoples responsibility to step gingerly around the dogs triggers, it’s the requirement for the dog to not have those triggers, be restrained, or be removed from existence.
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Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
how does riding motorcycles compare to any of these things?She’s probably one of those “my pit bulls wouldn’t hurt a fly, look I let them babysit my kids” type retards
Same type of people who ride motorcycles or mess with illicit substances “because it won’t happen to me”
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Originally Posted By johnnyboi123⏩
Danger involved? I’ve heard EMT workers say they’d never ride a motorcycle due to the things they’ve seen.how does riding motorcycles compare to any of these things?
Willing to bet pit bulls are the dog of choice for riders too
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Originally Posted By Roldz⏩
If poodles became the breed of choice for dog fights, poodles would be vilified too.
LOL poodles can't lock jaw that is why pitbulls are deadly IF they attack. ALL DOGS bite but small dogs like a jack russell you can just kick that dog away.If poodles became the breed of choice for dog fights, poodles would be vilified too.
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lol @ not having dominance over your pitbull. Mine runs to the corner with his tail down the second I give him the face that I'm displeased. A 125 blonde chick didn't have dominance and both of them took advantage of it on their walk.
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Originally Posted By TrotonKat⏩
Please be joking.LOL poodles can't lock jaw that is why pitbulls are deadly IF they attack. ALL DOGS bite but small dogs like a jack russell you can just kick that dog away.
Originally Posted By IfeHearted⏩
Sounds like you abuse your dog.lol @ not having dominance over your pitbull. Mine runs to the corner with his tail down the second I give him the face that I'm displeased. A 125 blonde chick didn't have dominance and both of them took advantage of it on their walk.
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