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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
It's literally US law to discriminate against white people you fuking tool.

LITERALLY US LAW
It isn't agains't the law for universities and businesses to have "diversity hiring quotas" and "gender balances in leadership" to force equality of outcome though.

How is it not discrimination if a white male kid has lower chance of getting the entry or job against a black woman - as a result of these quota goals?
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Originally Posted By ladyferal
Because the ultra rich have successfully convinced poor whites to turn on their poor neighbors of color so they never unite against their real enemy. Race has always been a tool used by the aristocracy to divide the poor.
Nailed it.

Race, religion, political viewpoint etc, anything to keep you peasants busy fighting amongst each other so your too blind to see what's actually happening in the world.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Honestly, I think the excerpt of the book I posted gives the main pragmatic reason why.
Didn't convince me.
Although right wingers don't like to hear about class analysis
I don't mind hearing about it, I just don't always agree with it.
but; if the working and middle class demanded (left wing or right wing) economic nationalism/autarky then by definition that would harm their ability of the upper classes to make huge profits engaging in international finance capitalism, outsourcing, and interventionism.
Definitely.
As long as the middle and working class are fighting amongst themselves, there will never be a populist uprising.
I would hope a populist uprising isn't necessary to sort out the problems we have. Strong leadership may be all that is required.
You may not like my proposed solution, but a reversion back to classical capitalism (or perhaps even another slightly more protectionist model) is needed. Financial institutions should not be able to create money to fuk the poor (leftists would say they should be regulated tighter, I would say not give them the power in the first place), nations should live within their means, jobs should be protected from being moved overseas, the corporate structure should be removed or re-evaluated. I think Neoliberalism is cancer tbh.

The capitalism we have today is silly - the top % are, in instances, too isolated from risk. The bottom end up paying the mistakes of top. Needs to stop.

Yep.

Cheap labour is good for the upper classes businesses, but bad for the working class. I've even began reading that middle class people in skilled jobs (tech for example) are complaining about competing with East Asian and South Asian immigrants.
Then the "white genocide" thing would not be something your elites would encourage. They would not want anything to upset the current system they currently have. In fact it's probably their worst nightmare....

Should make you wonder why all these main stream media outlets bash any ideology that is remotely nationalistic.... hmmmmmmm.
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Originally Posted By ESlong
Wtf you mean feel bad?
Read your first sentence. Hate sounds like a bad feeling to me. And second, it was a question.
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Lol bruh you are dumb AF. I don't see any pyramids that white people built to be buried in when they die. You know, those things that required thousands of slaves to build over 10+ years. Something tells me white people didn't start slavery fool.

Also, you can't refer to white people now as being responsible for what happened 200 years ago clown.

Last: why no one wanna respond to this man?
And there it is. You've run out of logic so you resort back to your 12 year old mentality of name calling. Here's a suggestion, next time you enter a debate ask for information, clarity, explanation. That way you can leave the discussion knowing a lot more than when you came in.
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Cheap labour is good for the upper classes businesses, but bad for the working class. I've even began reading that middle class people in skilled jobs (tech for example) are complaining about competing with East Asian and South Asian immigrants.
One sure fire way to stop illegal immigration: Go after the wealthy people that pay them.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
It isn't agains't the law for universities and businesses to have "diversity hiring quotas" and "gender balances in leadership" to force equality of outcome though.

How is it not discrimination if a white male kid has lower chance of getting the entry or job against a black woman - as a result of these quota goals?
That's what I'm saying and in that case it's systematic which is a leftist buzzword and hence more projection. White people are systematically discriminated against. Minorities are definitely discriminated against but it's by individuals in individual capacities generally because of stereotypes.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
That's what I'm saying.
Oh nevermind, I misread your post.
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Originally Posted By KRANE
And there it is. You've run out of logic so you resort back to your 12 year old mentality of name calling. Here's a suggestion, next time you enter a debate ask for information, clarity, explanation. That way you can leave the discussion knowing a lot more than when you came in.
You can't say something completely out of place and not expect to be called out about it. And yet, when you are you just cry about name calling because that is all there is for you to do. You can't explain away the fact those pyramids are like 5,000 years old and built by slaves in an African culture. You can't clarify that this white generation never owned slaves or did black people dirty 200 years ago. If you can't say something intelligent then say nothing at all when entering a debate. Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

I've always respected you as a poster in financial threads, but you came up pretty short in this "debate"
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Originally Posted By MattBro95
Didn't convince me.
It's an excerpt, but fair enough.
I would hope a populist uprising isn't necessary to sort out the problems we have. Strong leadership may be all that is required.
You may not like my proposed solution, but a reversion back to classical capitalism (or perhaps even another slightly more protectionist model) is needed.
I can understand (and respect) the kind of protectionist state capitalism that Steve Bannon proposes.
Financial institutions should not be able to create money to fuk the poor (leftists would say they should be regulated tighter, I would say not give them the power in the first place), nations should live within their means, jobs should be protected from being moved overseas, the corporate structure should be removed or re-evaluated.
Based on the bolded, I think you might be surprised if you looked into a fascist economic theory called Corporatism (if you haven't already done so). 100% srs.



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I think Neoliberalism is cancer tbh.
We are agreement.
Then the "white genocide" thing would not be something your elites would encourage. They would not want anything the upset the current system they currently have. In fact it's probably their worst nightmare....
I don't see how you came to that conclusion from what I wrote. Can you explain?
Should make you wonder why all these main stream media outlets bash any ideology that is remotely nationalistic.... hmmmmmmm.
As you probably know, in the UK civic nationalism is mandatory to be taught in primary and secondary schools since 2014. So the state has said a 'phuck you' to leftists who are anti-nationalist.

Anti-nationalism appears to be more rife in the US media, and civic nationalism doesn't seem to be backed by the state.
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Originally Posted By ladyferal
All these folks clamoring about "white genocide" are beyond reaching man. They'll tell you sociology isn't a legitimate field of study. They'll cherrypick and move goalposts and come up with all kinds of justifications for their poorly supported arguments. Somehow white people are simultaneously superior to all others and "responsible for all of civilization" but also in danger of extinction?
The reverse is true. Those who ridicule the notion of white supremacy also believe that whites are omnipotent enough to control the fates & fortune of minorities. All statistical disparities are thought first and foremost of being due to discrimination rather than the natural consequence of cultural differences.

And yeah, it's possible for those with superior education, intelligence, wealth & privilege to face discrimination resulting in both confiscation of their property and violence committed against them. In fact, it's entirely natural. Read Thomas Sowell's essay "Are Jews Generic". Human beings are envious, spiteful creatures and successful people in their midst are an "ego problem" who must be humiliated to assuage feelings of inferiority. Not only between racial and ethnic groups but within them of course.
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Originally Posted By MattBro95
Why would our elites want to cause issues like this? Is it not fair to say cheap labour from immigration is one of the key ingredients that allows them to keep getting richer?

Also a lot of that long extract is fuking bollocks mate. lol. Wealth in equality is growing for a number of reasons, and our flawed banking system is one of the biggest culprits. Would not be surprised if there are some malevolent forces in the financial world.. but there is no traditional aristocracy v people battle anymore.
Na his post is legit. thats what they do. divide and conquer.

Having a large underclass of blacks/muslims keeps the middleclass/lowerclass whites from correctly identifying the elites/bankers as the head of the snake and redirects that anger/hatred towards blacks/muslims as they are the ones who at first glance are ruining the nation because their crimes and actions are more blunt, obvious, and direct.

white genocide is very real though. systematic killings isn't the only definition of white genocide. population replacement. 8% of the worlds population and its extremely top heavy in terms of age. The strategy is for whites to either die off(due to not having replacement level birthrates), the wealthy ones to mix with the elites(like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton whos kids who are all married to jews...purely cohencidence?) or mix with the darker races creating something smart enough to perform basic work, but not capable enough to ever seriously oppose them. There's a reason why nationalistic masculine white men are portrayed as the ultimate evil. They see that as their greatest threat. They saw what happened in Germany. the promotion of these other groups arn't because they actually give a **** about them, it's just to undermine white men.

End goal, easily controlled nations of brown asiastic-negroids being ruled over by a light skinned jewish-white hybrid class with wealth-inequality worse than you can even imagine. They even go so far as to state this themselves. see the Kalergi plan and the protocols of Zion.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
It isn't agains't the law for universities and businesses to have "diversity hiring quotas" and "gender balances in leadership" to force equality of outcome though.

How is it not discrimination if a white male kid has lower chance of getting the entry or job against a black woman - as a result of these quota goals?
Don't confuse discrimination with apportionment. Discrimination works by intentionally putting up barriers to keep certain people, groups, races, etc. out. There are no barrier in place to keep your white male kid out. Otherwise, they wouldn't still fill the vast majority of positions.

Apportioning a small percentage to minorities -- all minorities-- is just one method to balance thetrue historic discriminationthat has existed since the beginning.

It might also interest you to now that the only group that has made any significant advancements due to Affirmative Action has been the White female.

If you still care to continue along this line of thinking be sure and focus your attention there before you do so any place else.
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b-b-b-b-b-but white genocide
b-b-b-b-but cultural marxism
b-b-b-b-but social darwinism
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Wassup white people?!!?

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Based on the bolded, I think you might be surprised if you looked into a fascist economic theory called Corporatism (if you haven't already done so). 100% srs.
I've got more reading to do. I remember watching an interview with Mosley where he hints towards such a model. Wouldn't want to comment until I have a better understanding.
I don't see how you came to that conclusion from what I wrote. Can you explain?
Well, why would they want to create a whites v everyone else mentality, when this could actually lead to the undermining of the system they currently have in place?
As you probably know, in the UK civic nationalism is mandatory to be taught in primary and secondary schools since 2014. So the state has said a 'phuck you' to leftists who are anti-nationalist.

Anti-nationalism appears to be more rife in the US media, and civic nationalism doesn't seem to be backed by the state.
Honestly, I have not really experienced what you are talking about...
Can't say I really noticed it during school.... Certainly do not feel it in the media, unless they are preparing us for some form of "intervention" in another part of the world.

Maybe if you are talking about the actions of the state in the present, but we are pretty much taught to be ashamed of the entirety of Britain's history, other than our involvement WWI and WWII.
Unfortunately for them, the public have largely ignored it.
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What's wrong with being a minority? Are they treated poorly or something?
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Originally Posted By Redfish225
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Wassup white people?!!?

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Originally Posted By KRANE
Don't confuse discrimination with apportionment. Discrimination works by intentionally putting up barriers to keep certain people, groups, races, etc. out. There are no barrier in place to keep your white male kid out. Otherwise, they wouldn't still fill the vast majority of positions.

Apportioning a small percentage to minorities -- all minorities-- is just one method to balance thetrue historic discriminationthat has existed since the beginning.

It might also interest you to now that the only group that has made any significant advancements due to Affirmative Action has been the White female.

If you still care to continue along this line of thinking be sure and focus your attention there before you do so any place else.
It's beyond the power of human beings to 'balance' out historic discrimination. Not only that but by attempting to do so yet more injustices are created with the inevitable result of greater racial and ethnic polarisation.

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Originally Posted By ladyferal
Because the ultra rich have successfully convinced poor whites to turn on their poor neighbors of color so they never unite against their real enemy. Race has always been a tool used by the aristocracy to divide the poor.
yessss, I have to agree here.
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Because when you live in a world of White Privilege, a move to equality feels like discrimination.
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Originally Posted By foreverSNAFU
Have you seen college admission rates based on GPA?


I find this interesting....sucks that I am lumped together with being "white" when my parents immigrated here from another country with $0 in their pockets and worked their asses off to give me an opportunity to get an education and do better for my future generation of children
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Minority within a couple decades due largely to forced multiculturalism. And to those thinking nothing will change, lmao lmao and have fun living in a country run by a people that can't do civilization well in any of their countries, with our fun subset of the country that can't do civilization at all running amok. Great times ahead, and by great I mean a neat combo of Mexico and South Africa lite.
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This whole thread. It's been a class/economic issue this entire time, wealthy looking at this thread like.

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This whole thread. It's been a class/economic issue this entire time, wealthy looking at this thread like.
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Wassup white people?!!?

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[QUOTE=BetaAsPhuck post_id=1538804211]Excerpt from a book:

[I]"But I would like to review evidence that it is not only that economic inequality stimulates violent crime; it is also true that increases in violent crime make it politically more feasible for the very wealthy to attain higher degrees of economic inequality (which is, of course, to their advantage by definition).

For example, when I directed the Prison Mental Health Service, I noticed in that microcosm of our society called the prison something similar was happening.[b]The correction officers, who were vastly outnumbered by inmates, realized that the inmates could together easily overpower the officers and start a riot. How did the officers prevent that from happening? The simplest way for a minority to dominate a majority, and probably the most foolproof, is by the divide-and-rule strategy. The officers let one group of inmates fight, dominate and exploit another group - rape them, strong-arm them, steal from them, and so on. The inmates were too busy fighting each other to unite against the guards.
[/b][/QUOTE]People often say this and they're not wrong, but the solution presented is always 'can't we all just get along!?' instead of wanting to prevent the necessary conditions in the first place. People won't get over and forget about their race or ethnicity. We won't all sing kumbaya together. The workers of the world will not unite. But if you see ethnic conflict as inevitable and want to prevent it you're a wacist apparently.
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Whites are outrageously noticing that there is an attempt by world jewry to genocide them via demographics. That's so horribly antisemitic and racist, it baffles the mind. There is no such thing as the human race, after all, which is why whites should stop being antisemitic and open their nations borders and take their vaccines and and work hard so they pay high taxes and keep the government full of jewish satraps well-funded.

Opposing your demographic genocide is antisemitic and racist is the lesson here.
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Originally Posted By GoldsNightCrew


I find this interesting....sucks that I am lumped together with being "white" when my parents immigrated here from another country with $0 in their pockets and worked their asses off to give me an opportunity to get an education and do better for my future generation of children
this is why you lie on your application
post 1538811851 12-28-2017, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Sergis
im fantastic

remembering that there are millions of people who hate my guts just because back in the day some brits bought a bunch of slaves in africa really brightens up my day
Thatโ€™s old chit brah, we cool.
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Originally Posted By meenman83
Good bro how are you doing?
Chillin mane, at work sippin some strong ass coffee. Dassit.
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post 1538812301 12-28-2017, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Redfish225
Came in to say

Wassup white people?!!?

Howโ€™s everyone today
Sup my dude. Just eating some unseasoned scrambled eggs and catching up on whom the crazy people of the misc are.
Originally Posted By pollywogpriest
Whites are outrageously noticing that there is an attempt by world jewry to genocide them via demographics. That's so horribly antisemitic and racist, it baffles the mind. There is no such thing as the human race, after all, which is why whites should stop being antisemitic and open their nations borders and take their vaccines and and work hard so they pay high taxes and keep the government full of jewish satraps well-funded.

Opposing your demographic genocide is antisemitic and racist is the lesson here.
I've just looked through a few of your posts. Strong everything.
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