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post 1539022591 12-30-2017, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Im honestly not sure what youre talking about anymore.

In this example the only reason the price would rise is, even if its as you said - there was an expectation the price would rise - is if someone paid more for it. In which case, the marketcap would rise.

People would expect it to be worth more so in anticipation spend more to acquire more of it.

Not like the price would rise in anticipation; its because an actual transaction occured where someone overpaid increasing the price.

Throughout all of this.. What is your point. Price is more important than marketcap? you seem to argue price is adjusted through an arbitrary means.

Im not too tired of talking about it but im slightly annoyed
The point: "You CANNOT tell the amount of net money flowing into and out of stocks, commodities, forex or cyrptos by looking at the market cap"

Yes arbitrary adjustments to the the bids, or the askcanaffect price. That's why the price gapped in the attached file.
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Originally Posted By brbacquiring⏩
What do you think that means?
These exchanges are giving us the business

Also, never use hitbtc. I had a reddit post that stated hitbtc ceo changed and the new one has been caught doing scammy chit. Now i cant seem to find that post

But i had 500 free tron on hitbtc i cant get out. I had like 30 edo and tried to sell all of them only to have 8 locked up unable to sell. Which was 25 bucks at the time and is now around 40.

Plus, when i went to go transfer my edo they charged me a 12 dollar fee to transfer. My ltc is still stuck there, etc.

It fukin sucks azz if anybody is not aware
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
I really want to understand it better. If market cap increases $10B in a day because prices went up (same supply), does that mean $10B extra cash entered into the market? I thought not but I'm confused now.
You cannot know for sure, but the answers is almost certainly no.
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Originally Posted By blackfromdead⏩
The point: "You CANNOT tell the amount of net money flowing into and out of stocks, commodities, forex or cyrptos by looking at the market cap"

Yes arbitrary adjustments to the the bids, or the askcanaffect price. That's why the price gapped in the attached file.
So youre telling me i can just say my 1 dollar is worth 1 million and thats that? Im anticipating my 1 dollar being worth that much for whatever reason..

In your previous example this is what you insinuate, in your last example arbitrary is somewhat defined on bids vs. Asks which is sure to be somewhat more rational

I appreciate actual discussion so its whatever
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i just want BTChad to go on a run and show he still has it.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
I really want to understand it better. If market cap increases $10B in a day because prices went up (same supply), does that mean $10B extra cash entered into the market? I thought not but I'm confused now.
Nope.....if 1 person buys 0.000001 BTC for the rate of 1btc = 26k USD, then BTC marketcap will suddenly double. Because it will be 26K x supply = marketcap

And the other case...
If millions of people flood the market with billions of dollars, and the buyers are willing to buy for $13k BTC, the marketcap won't move at all....even though there are tons of money coming in.
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Originally Posted By KhumatMibra⏩
i just want BTChad to go on a run and show he still has it.
Chad waiting for everyone to get comfy with alts and when we least expect it Chad going to come in and Cuck all of us.
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post 1539023441 12-30-2017, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
I really want to understand it better. If market cap increases $10B in a day because prices went up (same supply), does that mean $10B extra cash entered into the market? I thought not but I'm confused now.
Yes and no. It means the supply decreased or the price people are willing to pay (value) went up. As a consequence $10B worth of value was added to the total supply if you are looking at a single coin. On terms oftotalmarketcap, it would mean it's new money and not liquidated assets from within the same market (if it goes up), if it didn't go up but the market cap of a single coin did (i.e. todays XRP), it's more likely the money came from people liquidating other coins (and you can usually tell where it's coming from).

In crypto it's more complicated because value can also appear out of thin air (i.e. BTG, BCH, controversial Tether etc.)

Coinmarketcap uses an aggregated price from all exchanges the coin is traded on.
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post 1539023471 12-30-2017, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
So youre telling me i can just say my 1 dollar is worth 1 million and thats that? Im anticipating my 1 dollar being worth that much for whatever reason..

In your previous example this is what you insinuate, in your last example arbitrary is somewhat defined on bids vs. Asks which is sure to be somewhat more rational

I appreciate actual discussion so its whatever
My example was over simplified, and doesn't represent real life. Though the mechanics were correct.

There are multiple definitions for price: highest bid, lowest ask, or the mid point between those.

I think most charts people see are bid charts but you can get mid, or ask charts too. Most market caps are calculated using the mid price, though equally you can calculate it using bid, ask as well. I'm not sure there is a right answer.
post 1539023591 12-30-2017, 12:15 PM
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Man ive been posting my predictions in this thread all week and for some reason my potfolio has gone up 88% but if i held on that extra day or two with the coins i chose i would be +240ish %. God damn it!

edit - for anyone wondering if you go back this week i had XLM/LRC/ADA/POE all for the reason they had sub 100m market cap, low traded volume and were expected to have a boom. I only sold off most of my stuff when i hit +30ish gains since the price of BTC would drop and their value increase so i made double the sats. Shame now i want to buy into a coin or two but since BTC is so low i would be overpaying in a sense with too many sats.
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post 1539023751 12-30-2017, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
I really want to understand it better. If market cap increases $10B in a day because prices went up (same supply), does that mean $10B extra cash entered into the market? I thought not but I'm confused now.
Supply wouldnt stay the same

I fail to see a way in which price would change without a change in marketcap

Only way i see that is if btc moves a lot while one alt has ZERO money enter into it

Idk if hes talking about marketcaps of a specific alt coin. Total marketcap, etc.

Total marketcap cant be faked. A coin having zero interaction and changing in price CAN happen but only because btc - remember btc props everything else up in this space..
post 1539023851 12-30-2017, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By MuckSnapper⏩
Bitcoin.
Got it too brah. That drop though.
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So I'm starting to realize that pretty much all coins will have their day, and to just stay in until they do.

I bought 1000 shares of POE when it was .035 cents, and sold it before it just mooned to get into a ICO.
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Originally Posted By RedSoxfan1978⏩
Got it too brah. That drop though.
since all alts are too high for my liking (Pumping atm) and btc is so low im just gonna buy more BTC lol.
Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
So I'm starting to realize that pretty much all coins will have their day, and to just stay in until they do.

I bought 1000 shares of POE when it was .035 cents, and sold it before it just mooned to get into a ICO.
Any coin with sub 100m market cap and low trading volume on binance will have their day within a week or 2. Just how it is ive seen.
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post 1539024071 12-30-2017, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By RedSoxfan1978⏩
Got it too brah. That drop though.
I'm saying get more then when it pumps (and it most certainly will), shove it into some ALTs that are down like IOTA and ICX


Once I have the funds I'm going to use IOTA for day trading. It has consistently pumped into the 4's and back down into the 3's
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post 1539024121 12-30-2017, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By MuckSnapper⏩
I'm saying get more then when it pumps (and it most certainly will), shove it into some ALTs that are down like IOTA and ICX
This is my plan. If BTC gets to 13.5k-14.5k in the next 6-10 hours and iota stays the same im going to pump everything into it.
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post 1539024181 12-30-2017, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By boostnlol⏩
This is my plan. If BTC gets to 13.5k-14.5k in the next 6-10 hours and iota stays the same im going to pump everything into it.
I'm just throwing it back into XRP for now lol... but I do like the IOTA play
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Originally Posted By brbacquiring⏩
What do you think that means?
To me it's clear there's no new money buying Ripple. And it's also clear that exchanges aren't controlling Ripple interfaces under the guise of routine maintenance as we've experienced with other top coins. Why? I have no idea.
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post 1539024421 12-30-2017, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By MuckSnapper⏩
I'm just throwing it back into XRP for now lol... but I do like the IOTA play
Dont know if you seen it but i posted about LRC/XLM/POE/ADA 3 days ago for lucifer lol. I ended up selling everything yesterday and i feel like an idiot lol i just have to remember anything could of happened and to take the profits and be happy.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
To me it's clear there's no new money buying Ripple. And it's also clear that exchanges aren't controlling Ripple interfaces under the guise of routine maintenance as we've experienced with other top coins. Why? I have no idea.
Someone give me the 101 on “new money” pls
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post 1539024591 12-30-2017, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By MuckSnapper⏩
Someone give me the 101 on “new money” pls
Total marketcap going down but value of Ripple increased 10x. i.e. people liquidating coins (LTC/BTC etc.) within the market to pump Ripple as opposed to new money coming in. This assumes billions of dollars didn't leave the market through sales or exchanges though (which is unlikely over this time frame).
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post 1539024631 12-30-2017, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By redwine91⏩
I own 2.5 LTC's around $275 and $340. Am I fukt? It's been floating around low 200's.
Brag post: I bought 22.9 LTC @ 110.00 on the breakout, sold all of them @ $317.66 when it was clear they were turning over.

Feeling smart as fuking fuk right now.
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12⏩
Total marketcap going down but value of Ripple increased 10x. i.e. people liquidating coins within the market to pump Ripple as opposed to new money coming in. This assumes billions of dollars didn't leave the market through sales or exchanges though (which is unlikely over this time frame).
Ah. Makes sense. Thanks/repped
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post 1539024751 12-30-2017, 12:34 PM
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Just my opinion, but I think 2018 will be the year of the alts. Btc will stagnate below $20k, it's weaknesses have been exposed and they are weaknesses that will only get worse with expansion/scaling, it would be neigh unusable at $50k a coin let alone $100K+. The devs/community will continue to infight and bicker about the solutions and nothing will get done.

Meanwhile ripple will be the normie/mainstream inlet to the alts and new money will flow into them instead of btc. People will get more educated on the crypto market with time and will be looking for the next btc/ripple before they take off.



Then there's the fairX exchange that's supposedly coming (nonewgainz awared us on it and stellar/I-B-M earlier itt) that'll make U.S purchases of alts via fiat easy. If that comes to fruition there will be a huge influx of liquidity, biggest issue right now is how annoying/difficult it is to invest in these fuking cryptos for the average person.

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