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post 1543015211 02-06-2018, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Arkileon⏩
I don't know why you guys keep bringing up this point and phrasing it like you're disagreeing with me. I'm saying there's not many movies where its a majority cast who just happen to be black (instead of focusing on blackness as the major theme of the movie), which is why this is important. You guys are explainingwhy there's not many of those movies. But the why isn't anything I'm even trying to argue about. So....
How is this "for the culture" if it doesnt focus on them being black? Why are black liberals on twitter going nuts about how this movie is for them if the characters just happen to accidentally be black?

Are you guys even listening to how silly you sound?
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Originally Posted By Jhalf⏩
lol at trying to put all movies with black actors in them into 4 categories.. are you srs?

Get out shouldnt have even been an example of a black movie, it should be an example of a white movie where: white characters are extremely racist towards black people
because there ARE roughly 4 categories of movies with predominantly black casts, and thats the whole point. If you know of more then i'd like to hear them.
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Originally Posted By Jhalf⏩
How is this "for the culture" if it doesnt focus on them being black? Why are black liberals on twitter going nuts about how this movie is for them if the characters just happen to accidentally be black?

Are you guys even listening to how silly you sound?
Here's my take on this:

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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
because there ARE roughly 4 categories of movies with predominantly black casts, and thats the whole point. If you know of more then i'd like to hear them.
How was Get out a movie with a predominantly black cast?

The description you could give black panther is a "Black movie with a hip hop soundtrack and violence"

and yeah, theres plenty of those

How do movies with one or two black people fit in? are you guys counting that?
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Originally Posted By Jhalf⏩
How was Get out a movie with a predominantly black cast?

The description you could give black panther is a "Black movie with a hip hop soundtrack and violence"

and yeah, theres plenty of those

How do movies with one or two black people fit in? are you guys counting that?
LOL, this. brb 3 black guys and a family of white people = black film
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I like it cause his costume is the most aesthetic in MCU. Black Panther also giving avatar cinematography vibes

Les not 4get doe, blade 1 is first black marvel movie and it didn't get the praise it deserves.
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Originally Posted By Arkileon⏩
I don't know why you guys keep bringing up this point and phrasing it like you're disagreeing with me. I'm saying there's not many movies where its a majority cast who just happen to be black (instead of focusing on blackness as the major theme of the movie), which is why this is important. You guys are explainingwhy there's not many of those movies. But the why isn't anything I'm even trying to argue about. So....
You make up ~13% of the American population, ~3.5% of the Canadian population, ~3.5% of the British population, ~1.6% of the Australian population.

I'm not being a dick, but how many "all black cast" movies do you think you need? The fact that no one wants to bring up is that blacks are actually OVER-REPRESENTED in American entertainment culture once you account music and sports. What happens is that people turn the TV on and see black celebrities everywhere, which gives a warped sense of just how significant the African American population is. Then when they don't see half of all actors as black, half of Oscar winners, etc. it makes it look like there is some discrimination going on when in reality blacks dominate in entertainment well above their actual population representation. Think about it; I'd estimate that at least 40-50% of all "stars" in music at any given time are black...yet they account for only ~13% of the general population.

There are significantly more Hispanics in America than blacks and they have far fewer Hollywood stars, zero "all Hispanic movies", etc, etc.

The "black stereotyping" isn't some unique experience. Every Italian-American themed movie revolves around what? Mafia.
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
You make up ~13% of the American population, ~3.5% of the Canadian population, ~3.5% of the British population, ~1.6% of the Australian population.

I'm not being a dick, but how many "all black cast" movies do you think you need? The fact that no one wants to bring up is that blacks are actually OVER-REPRESENTED in American entertainment culture once you account music and sports. What happens is that people turn the TV on and see black celebrities everywhere, which gives a warped sense of just how significant the African American population is. Then when they don't see half of all actors as black, half of Oscar winners, etc. it makes it look like there is some discrimination going on when in reality blacks dominate in entertainment well above their actual population representation. Think about it; I'd estimate that at least 40-50% of all "stars" in music at any given time are black...yet they account for only ~13% of the general population.

There are significantly more Hispanics in America than blacks and they have far fewer Hollywood stars, zero "all Hispanic movies", etc, etc.

The "black stereotyping" isn't some unique experience. Every Italian-American themed movie revolves around what? Mafia.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
I'm still failing to miss what sort of 'social commentary' this movie is supposed to have other than speculation.

T'Challa's father got killed in Civil War. T'Challa has to go back and restore order to his land after the king was killed. People are now discovering how rich and technologically advanced Wakanda is and he has to protect the interest of Wakanda which sometimes comes in conflict with the U.S. i.e. creating a safe haven for Cap, Bucky, Falcon, and Black Widow.

Also we don't know where the last Infinity Stone is and why half of The Avengers are fighting in Wakanda during Infinity War.

Let's just enjoy the movie. STFU.
this. I don't understand why ppl would go into the movie with a negative attitude, ofc you're not gonna like it if you've all these preconceived notions/ideas.
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I feel like the backlash for the black panther movie will start soon. I would not be surprised if there are reports of miscers kneeling during the opening credits of the black panther movie as a protest
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Originally Posted By im2manly⏩
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Mask of Zorro? I think only the extras and the side actors were Hispanic lol.

Banderas is Spanish, Zeta Jones is Welsh, Hopkins is English (maybe Welsh too?), almost positive the villain, forget his name, is English. Those were the big ones and none Hispanic.
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Originally Posted By UnclRuckus⏩
Just like I expected, reviews are talking about the political statement and cultural impact as opposed to whether or not it's a good movie. Classic case where you shouldn't trust the critics and wait for audience reviews. I think it's gonna be the same thing as with Star Wars TLJ, where SJW:s hyped it to high heavens but normal people thought it was garbage. Hope not though.
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Gonna be tough to beat blade as the best black superhero
Still one of the best
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I can see some cultural value in it. I still think this movie, much like most other superhero movies, is pretty retarded. The storyline and settings are so imaginary that I'm hardly able to enjoy a movie like this.

But its hard to deny that there is some value in kids having a superhero that looks like them around. That's pretty cool to an extend, but honestly its only of limited value. I'm from a chitty eastern euro country and the only time people from those places get portrayed is a drug dealer / human trafficking russian mafia type, but I don't see that as my culture being attacked. It's just a ****in movie mane, its just entertainment. Same thing here. Yes, having more black superheros may inspire a few kids here and there but it's not some sort of monumental cultural event. Its just a freakin action movie.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Yeah most movies about black folks are about black people struggling or some chit.

brb Precious gets an Oscar. Appeases bleeding liberal hearts.
brb Color of Purple is great

This will be good for us (srs).
It will only be good for people who made the movie and took the money from gullible sheep but whatever. If a movie made by white Jews based on a comic written by white Jews to take money from Black people makes Black people happy, by all means, I am happy for you and I hope you get the sequel as well.
Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
Gonna be tough to beat blade as the best black superhero
Still one of the best
This. I hate superhero movies, but that one was actually badass, not like these soft, green screen cartoons we get bombarded with lately.
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Originally Posted By SadBoys⏩
It will only be good for people who made the movie and took the money from gullible sheep but whatever. If a movie made by white Jews based on a comic written by white Jews to take money from Black people makes Black people happy, by all means, I am happy for you and I hope you get the sequel as well.
Spending $15 to get 2.5 hours of entertainment. I think it's a good trade.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
okay, Coming to America was one. Any others?

thats the point i'm trying to make ("probably the first") there might be a couple more from the past 35 some odd years of cinematic history, but they are rare. I'd have to go on IMDB to find them if they exist.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Yeah most movies about black folks are about black people struggling or some chit.

brb Precious gets an Oscar. Appeases bleeding liberal hearts.
brb Color of Purple is great

This will be good for us (srs).
No it won't, why are they acting like the plate lip tribe will be just chilling with the long neck tribe and the scarification tribe? They tried too hard with this Africa thing. You can either be advanced, or tribal, I can't see a society being both, BRB super advanced tech, BRB deforming my lip with a huge ass plate.
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Originally Posted By Arkileon⏩
higher than the last jedi on metacritic atm, i thought it would end up an 7-8/10 on Rotten tomatoes but its climbing to a 9/10

i know you're talking about SJWs pumping the stats, but you think the movie will have a better score than The Last Jedi on no merit?
I havent seen the last jedi yet so i dunno. I think i'll watch it and rate it on par with Thor ragnarok
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
You make up ~13% of the American population, ~3.5% of the Canadian population, ~3.5% of the British population, ~1.6% of the Australian population.

I'm not being a dick, but how many "all black cast" movies do you think you need?
I read up to here lol
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I personally want to see this movie, but y'all need to understand: Disney movies, no matter what they are, will always get killer reviews from major critics. They fear the wrath of Disney too much to say anything otherwise; will literally get shut down. Disney does not fuk around.

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Originally Posted By SadBoys⏩
It will only be good for people who made the movie and took the money from gullible sheep but whatever. If a movie made by white Jews based on a comic written by white Jews to take money from Black people makes Black people happy, by all means, I am happy for you and I hope you get the sequel as well.




This. I hate superhero movies, but that one was actually badass, not like these soft, green screen cartoons we get bombarded with lately.
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Originally Posted By Arkileon⏩
I read up to here lol
Well now you're just being willfully ignorant. Whether you agree or disagree, he's making valid points while leaving emotion and name calling out of it. If you've chosen to have a dog in this fight, don't you agree, snubbing him like this just continues the conversation to no where?
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Originally Posted By LuNaTiC1988⏩
Well now you're just being willfully ignorant. Whether you agree or disagree, he's making valid points while leaving emotion and name calling out of it. If you've chosen to have a dog in this fight, don't you agree, snubbing him like this just continues the conversation to no where?
he doesn't care/doesn't get it, he came here looking for an argument when there doesn't even have to be. this is a celebration of a movie with an all-black cast, one that isn't just about how "black" or "disenfranchised" they are, doing good with reviews. It also means the movie isn't about "white guilt" or "the evil white man". AND it's a blockbuster to boot... buts it's pretty clear who is here to pick a fight when there literally isn't one. this is good for everyone.

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Movie looks badass. Will watch regardless of what some ******* critic says.
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Originally Posted By Dirtymanjames⏩
I don't understand. The movie is based in phucking Africa.. why wouldn't it have a majority black cast...

It will be good because it has talented actors backed by a good comic book story. hopefully their talent isn't overshadowed and wasted in order to pass on a political message like the last jedi did.
Noah was based in Africa, just Hollywood's version where everyone is white with brown dust on their face.
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Originally Posted By Arkileon⏩
What are you arguing exactly here?
I thought you were trying to make a point about there not being enough african superheroes based in Africa.

The reason the other black heroes are based in inner city cities is because people write about what they know. How many white dudes know a lot about Africa? Not many.

I may have missed your point, in that case can you rephrase what you were trying to say?
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