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post 1543339761 02-09-2018, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted By halfbreedbrah⏩
Then nature itself is that amazing. Wouldn't that Make it your God?
Why is there a need for you to believe that atheist worship something?

I neither worship nor venerate anything.

I just do not care.
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos⏩
Why is there a need for you to believe that atheist worship something?

I neither worship nor venerate anything.

I just do not care.
I don't feel you have to worship something for it to be your God.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
yall ignoring this statement
Do tell, how does the law of attraction work?
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im just hoping we can get our children off of anti anxiety drugs that big pharm loves pushing
Maybe those drugs were put on Earth by way of God to help those incapable of dealing with mental illness without drugs?

Do you think the long-term solution (on Earth) for schizophrenia is salvation through Christ?
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Originally Posted By halfbreedbrah⏩
Do you have to acknowledge your God/creator for them to be you God?
I think so. How does one know who their God is without acknowledgment?
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Originally Posted By halfbreedbrah⏩
I don't feel you have to worship something for it to be your God.
Then according to you, what criteria needs to be meet for something to become a god.

Also, did not answer;
Why do you feel the need to insist that we consider something god, when others are telling you that is not the case.
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos⏩
Then according to you, what criteria needs to be meet for something to become a god.

Also, did not answer;
Why do you feel the need to insist that we consider something god, when others are telling you that is not the case.
I don't care if you believe in your own creator, doesn't mean it's not your creator.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I think so. How does one know who their God is without acknowledgment?
I just feel like he doesn't need your acknowledgment to exist.
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Originally Posted By halfbreedbrah⏩
I just feel like he doesn't need your acknowledgment to exist.
That's a 100% different issue.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
I don't have the ability to go into detail on how the law of attraction works, but the cliffs on it is you reap what you sow.
If you don't have the ability to explain it, then you shouldn't be professing it as a law of the universe.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
If you want to tally the number of those killed by religious regimes vs. atheist regimes, I think it's up for debate. Plenty of secular nations who committed wide sweeping genocide or waged war, such as Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and a host of others. Not expressly in the name of Atheism, but by atheists. And honestly, even the Crusades weren't built on such one-dimensional direction, there's still monetary and territorial gain to be had, though religion was the primary rallying cry. Also using religion as a populist tool is not tantamount to a Jihad (see: Nazi Germany), which is a common conflation. If you mean pure zealotry vs atheist violence; you're probably right, I haven't checked data myself.

And that's the problem with that conversation, I've read many posts on secular and religious forums where they start splitting hairs about "Well those kills don't count..." and worse.

But it's not black/white. The action of debating whether atheism or theism has killed more people is naive IMO - there are far too many other factors that motivate genocide or conquest.
This is the mental gymnastics I find amusing. Agree to disagree bro.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
sorry f I can't profess the law of the universe in a few sentences, but if you have time there's plenty of flicks on Netflix
Well, let's see...

Oprah said she auditioned for a movie role and went to a fat farm and thought about the Color Purple over and over and obsessed about that movie. Then one day Steven Spielberg called her for a role in the movie... zing!

Will Smith says 2+2=4 only if he believes it does and he controls his destiny with his thoughts. If he can think it, it will come true.

Scott Herman said he used to hit every red light when traveling to work. Once he had a positive thought process and imagined he wouldn't hit red lights, he hit all green lights.

Yeah, ok. But hey, the best are the guys who sell slot machine systems using the law of attraction, lmao. I guess that goes back to Will Smith can pretend 2+2= whatever number he wants it to and slot players can pretend a slot machine doesn't only payout 92%.

So I guess the law of attraction can be boiled down to "living life off of statistical variance."
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z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
post 1543348951 02-09-2018, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
if that's what you believe your life will be a projection of that, if you believe the world is a godless world that's what you're going to see
Show me a 100 people with stage IV cancer who were cured due to the law of attraction, and I'll give it props.

Yes, positive thinking will make positive things happen, but it's not attracting positive things to your life; it is your positive mindset that is changing how you respond to things. That's a huge difference than some universal law bs about red lights or getting a movie role.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Actually when an atheist raises children well they are a far better example in the world than a god fearing bible basher
Yeah, you sound like a real peach. There's nothing to discuss with you it seems.
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Originally Posted By Firefightn24⏩
Yeah, you sound like a real peach. There's nothing to discuss with you it seems.
What a nobel and very christian point of view.
Belief without evidence is a fools game.

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I always wondered about, say children born into an uncontacted tribe in the amazon. With not one chance of knowing the Bible, or Jesus. Doomed to everlasting punishment for something they have zero chance of even knowing? Seems like a fair and just God.

Brought this up in a different thread, but I guess there is no good answer to this problem from a Christian perspective
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wait wasn't this thread deleted because OP got upset no one was responding to his nonsensical posts?
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
three days later and he rose from the dead
Yet another post showing how psychologically deranged you are. Get help. Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Firefightn24⏩
Yeah, you sound like a real peach. There's nothing to discuss with you it seems.
You understand how discussion works I assume
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
****ing with you on a daily bases is really all the help I need
It's really not screwing with me when I just feel sorry for you. You believe the things coming out of your mouth, which I pity. I was raised Christian, my mother is an ordained minister, and my father is Catholic. I've been baptized and confirmed. I chose to become Humanist because of the hypocrisy of religion and because of people like you. You blindly follow religion while simultaneously pushing it on others out of the need to be a part of the flock. You are a sheep and can only survive with other sheep.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
how do you plan on teaching them how forgiveness works?
I'd do it by reading them the bible, especially the parts where your godling goes on insane rampages and wipes out whole races because she has a tanty.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
So how do you plan to teach your kids forgiveness and how to handle anxiety and depression?
Why are your children battling so much anxiety and depression?

Why do you value forgiveness over empathy?

I being my children up with respect and love and they value critical thought. I bring them up to take charge of their own lives and make their own decisions...should they choose a religious life that will be from free will not through indoctrination
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
theres more than a 100 people out there, but I dunno why I have to do the leg work for you. Maybe you're attracted to not doing work for yourself?
I mean 100 out of 100; that is, 100% success rate due to law of attraction. Here's all you need to know about cancer and spontaneous regression:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3312698/

I bet you believe in Benny Hinn and his faith healing?

Remember back when Armstrong came back from brain and testicular cancer and won the Tour de France? Doctors said it was impossible without doping, and Bible thumpers said it was through God, prayer, the law of attraction. Nope - he cheated and used drugs and is such a sociopath didn't even consider any of it to be wrong in the slightest.
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z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
This

sawoobley, do not forget that atheists are simply people like everyone else. I've been Christian and know very well the attitudes and stereotypes on non believers. You are to believe that we are all immoral, and would have no qualms with murdering, stealing, etc. because there is no eternal consequence. The thing is, we have feeling like everyone else. Most humans prefer not to be azzholes to others just because they can. We have a society, we have law, and we have our culture. Our society (and all others) are fine with killing if it is an enemy that opposed us, but killing within our own society is looked down upon. That isn't based on religion, it's universal tribalism.

We aren't unknowable anomalies that refuse to see the truth right in front of us. We are as normal and well adjusted as you are, and you would understand us if you just take the time to get to know us as your fellow man, and not come to us with a preconceived opinion on who we are.
I don't think I've made absolute statements about all atheists being immoral. I've know a few in other sub forums who have an impressive worldview and sense of morality. However, I do believe if all religious people died out a nation of atheists would go south quickly. It doesn't take everyone going bad for a society to fall apart and I seriously doubt the ability of atheists to pass on their morality to their children which is another reason things would likely fall apart quickly. That and the fact I suspect most atheists care about their one life too much to put their life at risk for important principles when it becomes necessary.

This discussion isn't about labeling every atheists but about general beliefs and principles. There are many exceptions, of course. As there are with anything.

I know atheists, I've grown up with them. The ones I've known have a sense of morality. At least they don't go around purposefully hurting people. Obviously they are not wild animals but they certainly don't think about morality as much as the religious people in my life. I think they just go about living life only occasionally giving thought to morality and what is right or wrong. They have a basic sense of it and they live by that.

Honestly you atheist bros are just as harsh towards us as we are to you. We've been labeled as people who chose to follow some man made God as if anyone would purposefully do that. As if we need an emotional blanket to protect us from the scary world. We are portrayed as nearly all hypocrites, etc...
Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
I always wondered about, say children born into an uncontacted tribe in the amazon. With not one chance of knowing the Bible, or Jesus. Doomed to everlasting punishment for something they have zero chance of even knowing? Seems like a fair and just God.

Brought this up in a different thread, but I guess there is no good answer to this problem from a Christian perspective
http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Salvation_of_the_Dead
Originally Posted By sy2502⏩
Human beings figured out that stealing and murdering were bad for the survival of society a few thousand years before Jesus. The oldest code of laws in recorded human history is dated 2100 BC, comes from Mesopotamia and says, oddly enough, no murder, no stealing, no kidnapping, no raping, etc etc. It makes no reference to religious sources.
lol, clearly you have a much, much rosier view of human history than I do. Apparently you think humans figured out stealing, murdering, kidnapping, raping, etc were bad and they lived accordingly for the last 4000 years. That isn't what I got from my history and art history classes.
Originally Posted By rhadam⏩
It's really not screwing with me when I just feel sorry for you. You believe the things coming out of your mouth, which I pity. I was raised Christian, my mother is an ordained minister, and my father is Catholic. I've been baptized and confirmed. I chose to become Humanist because of the hypocrisy of religion and because of people like you. You blindly follow religion while simultaneously pushing it on others out of the need to be a part of the flock. You are a sheep and can only survive with other sheep.
Bull Crap. You chose to become a humanist so you could smash as many women as possible and not feel bad about it. You didn't want anyone or thing to tell you what you could or could not do.
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Humanism=/=no sexual morals
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Originally Posted By halfbreedbrah⏩
I don't care if you believe in your own creator, doesn't mean it's not your creator.
Got it. You don't care about my beliefs. Fair enough, I don't care about your (or any god). *tips fedora"
Originally Posted By Lawlstud⏩
What a nobel and very christian point of view.
Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
You understand how discussion works I assume
Both of you have to admit, making a claim that an atheist creates better children (in whatever manner) than Christians isn't the most productive way to start a conversation. If a Christian told you that, you would probably gag on the arrogance.
Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
So how do you plan to teach your kids forgiveness and how to handle anxiety and depression?
Same way most parents do. Expose them to life and circumstances, share the wisdom you've accumulated through out the years. Communicate and work together.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Humanism=/=no sexual morals
Has anyone said otherwise?
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos⏩
Both of you have to admit, making a claim that an atheist creates better children (in whatever manner) than Christians isn't the most productive way to start a conversation. If a Christian told you that, you would probably gag on the arrogance.
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Firstly I posted that ...and it’s actually based on a religious, iirc rabbinacal, concept...to start the discussion going after troll OP posted and ran
Originally Posted By sawoobley⏩
Has anyone said otherwise?
Yes humanism =/= no sexual morals was a direct response to
Originally Posted By sawoobley⏩
Bull Crap. You chose to become a humanist so you could smash as many women as possible and not feel bad about it. You didn't want anyone or thing to tell you what you could or could not do.
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Originally Posted By sawoobley⏩
I don't think I've made absolute statements about all atheists being immoral. I've know a few in other sub forums who have an impressive worldview and sense of morality. However, I do believe if all religious people died out a nation of atheists would go south quickly. It doesn't take everyone going bad for a society to fall apart and I seriously doubt the ability of atheists to pass on their morality to their children which is another reason things would likely fall apart quickly. That and the fact I suspect most atheists care about their one life too much to put their life at risk for important principles when it becomes necessary.
And Christians are good about passing on their beliefs? I'm sure that's children are leaving the Church in droves over the last 30 years because parents really instill within them the word of god.
This discussion isn't about labeling every atheists but about general beliefs and principles. There are many exceptions, of course. As there are with anything.
You state that a society of atheist would crumble without the principles of theists, and you don't that's making rather absolute statements or characterizing them a particular way?
I know atheists, I've grown up with them. The ones I've known have a sense of morality. At least they don't go around purposefully hurting people. Obviously they are not wild animals but they certainly don't think about morality as much as the religious people in my life. I think they just go about living life only occasionally giving thought to morality and what is right or wrong. They have a basic sense of it and they live by that.
You mean like most Christians I know? Like... most people I know?
Honestly you atheist bros are just as harsh towards us as we are to you. We've been labeled as people who chose to follow some man made God as if anyone would purposefully do that. As if we need an emotional blanket to protect us from the scary world. We are portrayed as nearly all hypocrites, etc...
So a victim? Please tell me about your plights. What did the atheist do to you? I have experiences with Christians that really make your claims ring hollow to me.

Of course... I'm sure those were just not "real Christians. No real Scotsman and all.

Originally Posted By sawoobley⏩
lol, clearly you have a much, much rosier view of human history than I do. Apparently you think humans figured out stealing, murdering, kidnapping, raping, etc were bad and they lived accordingly for the last 4000 years. That isn't what I got from my history and art history classes.
I'm sure we have been doing the whole society thing for more than 4000 years, and good job on Christians not murdering n stuff... because we know it's not them.... ever.
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Originally Posted By sawoobley⏩
Bull Crap. You chose to become a humanist so you could smash as many women as possible and not feel bad about it. You didn't want anyone or thing to tell you what you could or could not do.
Haha, I went to a Christian university. There was this dude that was like, "That's right; I'm 21-years-old and a virgin, and I'm proud of it. I will not have sex until I'm married."

Then a year later he went on spring break, and told me tales of him banging this chick on the beach, in an elevator, in the bathroom. I was like, "What about all that sin stuff?" and he replied, "All sin is equal in the eyes of God, and all man are sinners." And he kept banging away, knowing he was forgiven by God. LMAO.
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