One of the prerequisites for a rational discussion on public policy is understanding the actions you would have to take to effect a solution.

Let's consider "stopping school shootings by banning guns".

1. You would have to outlaw all guns. No grandfathering, no allowing some guns will disallowing others, you'd have to ban them all.
2. You'd have to go and get them, and you'd have to use armed teams of police to do so, from every house and place of business in the country. Every single one. Since there's no gun registry, you'd have to literally search every building in the United States, and you still wouldn't get them all. You'd have to violate the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights of every single American.
3. You'd have to shoot the people who resisted, who would number tens of thousands if not millions. All of them. If they numbered in the millions, you'd be dealing with a civil war.
4. After your civil war, with millions dead, atrocities surely committed, and our society literally in ashes, you'd have to put the pieces back together.

If you don't want to do all that, you have two alternatives:

1. Recognize that you live in a country with 300 mn people and 400 mn guns and accept that some of those 300 mn people are bad. Avoid creating large concentrations of defenseless victims by actually letting people be armed in public and/or having law enforcement where there are large concentrations of such defenseless people.

2. Stick your head in the sand on the issue and only take it out to cry about how America "needs" gun control.

We have murder laws............thats the entire point.


"da gubment" is not coming to kill you, and even if they were they would win regardless of your rifle. They have access to way more sh*t than you do.

It’s sad that people jump on gun control before the bodies even get cold. Gun control would prevent none of this. It would just make it harder for good guys to defend themselves.

1.) this always happens in gun free zones. Know why? Because the killers know it’s shooting fish in a barrel and nobody will stop them. In places with a lot of concealed carriers, crimes don’t happen because criminals either don’t try or get stopped by a citizen. But it doesn’t fit the media’s narrative so it’s never in the news.
2.) the guy had mental health problems. It’s well documented and the authorities did nothing about it. Cause you can’t anymore because of feelz.
3.) it’s a mental health problem not a gun problem.
4.) we have something called the 2nd amendment. When do we start regulating free speech? Look at all the violence that has caused since the beginning of man.
5.) drugs are illegal and look how people don’t do drugs... o wait everyone does illegal drugs.
6.) gun deaths like this are extremely small compared to drug or car deaths for example. Yet people want to target the tool. Illogical reasoning based on emotions and not facts.

One of the prerequisites for a rational discussion on public policy is understanding the actions you would have to take to effect a solution.

Let's consider "stopping school shootings by banning guns".

1. You would have to outlaw all guns. No grandfathering, no allowing some guns will disallowing others, you'd have to ban them all.
2. You'd have to go and get them, and you'd have to use armed teams of police to do so, from every house and place of business in the country. Every single one. Since there's no gun registry, you'd have to literally search every building in the United States, and you still wouldn't get them all. You'd have to violate the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights of every single American.
3. You'd have to shoot the people who resisted, who would number tens of thousands if not millions. All of them. If they numbered in the millions, you'd be dealing with a civil war.
4. After your civil war, with millions dead, atrocities surely committed, and our society literally in ashes, you'd have to put the pieces back together.

If you don't want to do all that, you have two alternatives:

1. Recognize that you live in a country with 300 mn people and 400 mn guns and accept that some of those 300 mn people are bad. Avoid creating large concentrations of defenseless victims by actually letting people be armed in public and/or having law enforcement where there are large concentrations of such defenseless people.

2. Stick your head in the sand on the issue and only take it out to cry about how America "needs" gun control.

repped.

This libtards never have a solution...dur hur just ban them.

aaaand he is now a confirmed MAGA ******* - not surprised

One of the prerequisites for a rational discussion on public policy is understanding the actions you would have to take to effect a solution.

Let's consider "stopping school shootings by banning guns".

1. You would have to outlaw all guns. No grandfathering, no allowing some guns will disallowing others, you'd have to ban them all.
2. You'd have to go and get them, and you'd have to use armed teams of police to do so, from every house and place of business in the country. Every single one. Since there's no gun registry, you'd have to literally search every building in the United States, and you still wouldn't get them all. You'd have to violate the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights of every single American.
3. You'd have to shoot the people who resisted, who would number tens of thousands if not millions. All of them. If they numbered in the millions, you'd be dealing with a civil war.
4. After your civil war, with millions dead, atrocities surely committed, and our society literally in ashes, you'd have to put the pieces back together.

If you don't want to do all that, you have two alternatives:

1. Recognize that you live in a country with 300 mn people and 400 mn guns and accept that some of those 300 mn people are bad. Avoid creating large concentrations of defenseless victims by actually letting people be armed in public and/or having law enforcement where there are large concentrations of such defenseless people.

2. Stick your head in the sand on the issue and only take it out to cry about how America "needs" gun control.

Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

You clearly just don't know much of anything...bringing up 'throughout history' not realizing that most murders including mass murders in the literal millions have been, throughout history, committed by governments...yet you want to give government a force monopoly. Pathetic.

how do arresting officers resist the urge to beat the f*ck out of him before killing him? I could not.

how do arresting officers resist the urge to beat the f*ck out of him before killing him? I could not.

We have murder laws............thats the entire point.


"da gubment" is not coming to kill you, and even if they were they would win regardless of your rifle. They have access to way more sh*t than you do.

If you honestly think the USA is capable of that, again, you're retarded. Why even live here if you're so afraid of our own government

how do arresting officers resist the urge to beat the f*ck out of him before killing him? I could not.

how do arresting officers resist the urge to beat the f*ck out of him before killing him? I could not.

One of the prerequisites for a rational discussion on public policy is understanding the actions you would have to take to effect a solution.

Let's consider "stopping school shootings by banning guns".

1. You would have to outlaw all guns. No grandfathering, no allowing some guns will disallowing others, you'd have to ban them all.
2. You'd have to go and get them, and you'd have to use armed teams of police to do so, from every house and place of business in the country. Every single one. Since there's no gun registry, you'd have to literally search every building in the United States, and you still wouldn't get them all. You'd have to violate the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights of every single American.
3. You'd have to shoot the people who resisted, who would number tens of thousands if not millions. All of them. If they numbered in the millions, you'd be dealing with a civil war.
4. After your civil war, with millions dead, atrocities surely committed, and our society literally in ashes, you'd have to put the pieces back together.

If you don't want to do all that, you have two alternatives:

1. Recognize that you live in a country with 300 mn people and 400 mn guns and accept that some of those 300 mn people are bad. Avoid creating large concentrations of defenseless victims by actually letting people be armed in public and/or having law enforcement where there are large concentrations of such defenseless people.

2. Stick your head in the sand on the issue and only take it out to cry about how America "needs" gun control.

Would having a gun amnesty and stricter regulation help? I'm not talking about banning all guns but just make it a lot harder for unhinged people to get access.

What has been done in recent history to try and prevent people using guns to shoot up schools? Anything?

Ahh, there’s the hypocrisy that I doubt you can even see.

The 2nd amendment was created so that citizens can have the same stuff as the military.

Is this him? He's wearing a shirt full of communist icons and giving the ANTIFA/resist fist to the screen here. That's definitely not MAGA.


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So, the US is special and all the rest of human history does not apply here? THAT must be why we are so peaceful and safe, compared to throughout human history, despite having hundreds of millions of guns?

Yes the US is special. It's been called the greatest nation to ever exist, in case you're unaware

But that doesnt mean we should see school shootings every month and take absolutely no action.

Define "unhinged people", stipulate who decides what person is unhinged, how they decide, and what is then done

Would having a gun amnesty and stricter regulation help? I'm not talking about banning all guns but just make it a lot harder for unhinged people to get access.
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We should absolutely stop making schools criminal empowerment zones where there is virtually never anybody there to shoot back. You are right about that.

Amazing how all these shootings happen in "gun free" zones, isn't it? It's almost like people know where to go to get the biggest body count based on this

Again, claiming a random person on the internet has to have all the answers in order to justify their desire for things to change. Stop with this bullchit fallacy

lolwhat

And murdering people with a firearm is legal?

You really are a potato

Or do I need to inform you that gasoline is legal to buy and own? And matches and lighters?

FFS dude

It is hard, have you tried buying a gun in places like california? You're very limited on what you can buy and it takes about a couple weeks to fully process the purchase IF you are clean... But all that still doesnt change people getting shot here every single day.