The post I quoted brought up looking at one single variable in one country to determine what to do in the other.

Both sides of the scale. Two way street. Whatever you want to call it.

If we're going to compare, we need to compare everything relevant, which will include defensive gun uses by private citizens, for sure.

I live in the US, in Chicago where we see gun violence nearly daily. Chicago has attempted gun control but no matter who you are (pending you aren't a felon) you can drive out of city limits and legally buy a weapon. Thus further propagating this issue in this cesspool of a city.

I get the "legal defensive gun" argument. I'm 30 years old and have never needed to use a gun to defend myself. Hopefully I never do.

To say this country doesn't have a gun violence issue is as stupid as a libtard saying the archaic religion of peace isn't an issue in the middle East. At some point people need to wake up.

wow... holy sh!t

It's more like a comparision of every single civilized country, vs the USA.

And I agree we need to look at all factors, but you have to consider defensive gun uses are probably in response to violent gun threats. In other words, a lot defensive gun uses wouldnt even be necessary if we actually prevented evil and insane people from getting guns

There is

Good guys with guns can and will stop a bad guy with a gun

The more you know...

Are you saying that you think most of America is mentally ill?

Strong bigotry.

Wake up to what? The fact that homicides, firearm homicides, and violent crime have been going down literally for decades? Like, we recently had the lowest violent crime rate in 50 ****ing years. Wake and and realize the mainstream media is feeding you bull**** and you're buying it hook, line, and sinker

holy chit.

search these terms in google: "nikolas cruz" site:youtube.com/watch

it pulls up some fairly interesting material. Makes me wonder if we're being trolled? Is there a way to modify the submission date for a youtube comment?

Here's some comments left by a youtube user by the name of "Nikolas Cruz":

from:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6AVaCjnbs
from:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL8686yupt8lmfao!


Inb4 inb4

At least you're not some idiotic foreigner weighing in on US issues.

But to think gun control would do anything is stupid. It's also stupid to think that ship hasn't sailed a LONG time ago.

Sure...unless of course you legally obtain a $20 bumpstock.

Nice misc detective work

https://www.allenwest.com/2016/01/18...r-gun-control/

Wrong gun violence is actually going down despite gun ownership skyrocketing

No, a great many defensive gun uses are not in response to gun threats.

And no, disarming everybody (if you could even do that) would not stop the healthy fit young male that is the typical violent criminal from preying on others, either because the others are smaller/weaker or because the others are outnumbered. Samuel Colt's famous quote about guns making men equal is profoundly true.

Strong attempt at going full CNN and twisting my words. That's not at all what I said strong Jason Genova level comprehensive skills

Not really. History has proven that people are mostly for themselves and/or people close to them. Throw in religion and people will just cherry-pick or distort it to rationalize whatever vile chit they're doing.

Let's face it, religion has been the excuse given to justify a whole hell of a lot of violence, death, torture, you name it

So you’re stating that society needs a moral foundation, doesn’t matter which?

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And no, disarming everybody (if you could even do that)/QUOTE]

I dont want to disarm everyone , I never said I did. stop with this strawman

Yes, and obviously i mean something that promotes positive morals and values

That snap chat video of the shooting on liveleak was fuk'd up. Strong dont watch.

Gun violence in Chicago is almost entirely criminals what does that have to do with normal people buying guns in lake county and such.

Not at the individual and family level.

All good, this is perfectly normal:

https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

The Onion, right on time yet again:

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-p...s-r-1823016659

It's still 1 trigger pull = 1 bullet. I know "bump stock" is a scary term for the left now too, but it was always just a novelty for a select few to fool around with for fun. It's not accurate at all and it's not really much faster than a well-practiced shooter without one.

They are now banned in a few places, but it's just a bunch of posturing by the left. From a "slippery slope" argument standpoint, it makes sense that they should be legal. It's an accessory, not a firearm. However, in the real world we're already sliding down that slippery slope so not too many people care too much. They're not practical for anything other than being at the range and getting a feel for what it might be like to hip fire a fully automatic weapon. That's about all they're good for. If the Las Vegas POS didn't have a large crowd to shoot at, the bump stock would have been pointless. Once people scattered, it was pointless anyway.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/09/...egas-shooting/

EDIT - Oh yeah, they weren't $20 either. More like $100-$150. I think that alone made a lot of people avoid them. It's too much money to spend on something that's only fun to do once or twice. Better to spend that money on ammo or other more practical accesories.

Sad

This is all that needs to be said.

bumpstock is still 1 trigger pull = 1 bullet fired.

thx


forgot to mention: in google search, you have to go to tools >> Any Time >> Custom Range
Then set the date to something like 2012 - 2017 to filter out the loads of hits from today

"The Bowling Green Police Department responded to a shots fired call at 645 Pearl Street around 2:30 a.m. on Saturday.


Through investigation, police say a verbal fight started at Club 110 for an unknown reason.

The people in the altercation became involved in a firefight in the club and outside parking lot.

When 13 News spoke with Bowling Green Police Department, they said four victims sustained non-life threatening gunshot wounds.

BGPD said the suspect(s) are unknown at this time.

The investigation is ongoing."

I for one am extremely concerned about four guy sat a club at 2:30 AM getting into an argument and injuring one another. We have to do something about this