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post 1543854761 02-15-2018, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Negged. You're the kind of moron that would argue 'since one hunter broke the rules and killed outside of hunting season, hunting should be prohibited'. You don't realize how stupid your extrapolation from a tiny group to a very large whole is. If you actually cared about why these people died, you'd dive into what happened with Cruz, how he was being investigated etc - instead, you're using this event to try to push and anti-gun movement. You're nowhere near as intelligent as you think - sit down, you ignorant skidmark.
aware me on why you need ar 15s in the community?

im not anti guns im anti some guns.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
If my daughters were in that school i would blame exactly who is responsible for it which are democrats that think a sign stops evil. I would blame govenor brown here in CA who just signed a law banning school employees from carrying firearms to protect them
I think the main issue is, if all guns are banned from people, how long until street guns are eventually gathered up so nobody can actually even find them illegally... That's the "dream" for some people right? Getting all the guns off the street which seems like a pipe dream.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
If my daughters were in that school i would blame exactly who is responsible for it which are democrats that think a sign stops evil. I would blame govenor brown here in CA who just signed a law banning school employees from carrying firearms to protect them
Brown is a scumbag and our new NJ governor seems to idolize him
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
If my daughters were in that school i would blame exactly who is responsible for it which are democrats that think a sign stops evil. I would blame govenor brown here in CA who just signed a law banning school employees from carrying firearms to protect them
wow , you cant be serious. i mean youd rather fix this based on abstract bases than concrete ones?

all the bs aside, youre telling me if employees were to carry firearms in that school it would have prevented the 14 deaths? trust me it wouldnt . killing one student would suffice to label this as a tragedy .

proper thing to do ban all guns for non military personal aka civilians and keep it with the police,military and ex - mil guys
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Originally Posted By Avalanche3319⏩
300 MILLION population. How many innocents died from drunk drivers today? Oh, you don't give a fuk. Ok.
There was a little girl killed by a drunk illegal.

http://wtvr.com/2018/02/13/fatal-ambulance-ride/

The news media is silent on the epidemic of drunk illegals killing people on our roads. It's easily a couple of thousand US citizens a year dying this way. Many more than all of these mass shootings combined. And every one of those deaths could have been prevented by enforcing the laws we already have on the books. The same laws that Obama refused to enforce and the same laws Trump is trying to enforce, but which Clinton- and Obama-appointed judges are fighting tooth and nail to stop from being enforced.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/30...l-drivers.html
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post 1543855201 02-15-2018, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
wow , you cant be serious. i mean youd rather fix this based on abstract bases than concrete ones?

all the bs aside, youre telling me if employees were to carry firearms in that school it would have prevented the 14 deaths? trust me it wouldnt . killing one student would suffice to label this as a tragedy .

proper thing to do ban all guns for non military personal aka civilians and keep it with the police,military and ex - mil guys
Why not take alcohol away from everybody, even law abiding citizens?
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Originally Posted By coolflow⏩
aware me on why you need ar 15s in the community?

im not anti guns im anti some guns.
Beyond mashing F5 and spamming the thread with your leading questions, have you actually tried reading?
Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Reports I am reading now (NYT) state that both Cruz's teachers (prior to his being expelled from school) and classmates expressed concern about his violent behaviour. The school administration had reported this to the Sherrif's office who was conducting an investigation.

Given Cruz's penchant for bragging about killing animals and causing suffering with his guns, I'd like to see more about how seriously the school took this behaviour and what procedure was followed to report it.
And, further:
Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
If you actually cared about why these people died, you'd dive into what happened with Cruz, how he was being investigated etc - instead, you're using this event to try to push and anti-gun movement. You're nowhere near as intelligent as you think - sit down, you ignorant skidmark.
You're focusing on guns, when this is an issue about a very sick kid and (in my opinion) a group of people that did not take his symptoms seriously enough. I don't have the full picture yet, but the reports I'm reading show that pretty much everyone around him had either formally or informally notified local authorities about Cruz's violent behaviour.

In short: you don't get to use the death of these people to try to make it a 'gun issue'. You and your ilk will fail. Instead, the intelligent question here is "why wasn't more done?" - and not from a hindsight lens, but a real inquiry to see why the threat wasn't taken more seriously given what is being reported about Cruz.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
wow , you cant be serious. i mean youd rather fix this based on abstract bases than concrete ones?

all the bs aside, youre telling me if employees were to carry firearms in that school it would have prevented the 14 deaths? trust me it wouldnt . killing one student would suffice to label this as a tragedy .

proper thing to do ban all guns for non military personal aka civilians and keep it with the police,military and ex - mil guys
Phuck off
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Originally Posted By Iron_Chef⏩
Why not take alcohol away from everybody, even law abiding citizens?
strong argument, cause alcohol brings the best of people right?
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
wow , you cant be serious. i mean youd rather fix this based on abstract bases than concrete ones?

all the bs aside, youre telling me if employees were to carry firearms in that school it would have prevented the 14 deaths? trust me it wouldnt . killing one student would suffice to label this as a tragedy .

proper thing to do ban all guns for non military personal aka civilians and keep it with the police,military and ex - mil guys
I am 100% serious and no that is not the proper thing to do. Thats assinine logic and wont prevent anything.

Again guns are not the problem and banning them will not prevent evil from occuring
post 1543855451 02-15-2018, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
proper thing to do ban all guns for non military personal aka civilians and keep it with the police,military and ex - mil guys
That's what they did in Nazi Germany, Communist China, Bolshevik Russia, and Pol Pot's Cambodia...

http://www.sonsoflibertyradio.com/th...tor-style.html
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post 1543855461 02-15-2018, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Beyond mashing F5 and spamming the thread with your leading questions, have you actually tried reading?



And, further:



You're focusing on guns, when this is an issue about a very sick kid and (in my opinion) a group of people that did not take his symptoms seriously enough. I don't have the full picture yet, but the reports I'm reading show that pretty much everyone around him had either formally or informally notified local authorities about Cruz's violent behaviour.

In short: you don't get to use the death of these people to try to make it a 'gun issue'. You and your ilk will fail. Instead, the intelligent question here is "why wasn't more done?" - and not from a hindsight lens, but a real inquiry to see why the threat wasn't taken more seriously given what is being reported about Cruz.
lol you can't answer a simple question.

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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
I am 100% serious and no that is not the proper thing to do. Thats assinine logic and wont prevent anything.

Again guns are not the problem and banning them will not prevent evil from occuring
if that's asinines logic , then riddle me this , why do countries that runs under a gun control government have lest random shootouts than the United states?
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post 1543855551 02-15-2018, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
That's what they did in Nazi Germany, Communist China, Bolshevik Russia, and Pol Pot's Cambodia...

http://www.sonsoflibertyradio.com/th...tor-style.html
no thats what they did in german,austria,swedne,sswitzerland etc etc

are you just trying to write things to write things? or do you actually have a proof to support it?
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Sad and tragic.
I don't have anything to say that hasn't been already said, and I have no solutions to this horrific situation where it became a norm for degenerates to randomly massacre kids in school.


I would however make 1 amendment to the law. In horrific scenarios like this, the murderer should be executed ASAP and all of his organs will be harvested for donations.



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Originally Posted By coolflow⏩
lol you can't answer a simple question.
LMAO at this barely literate fool. He enters the thread yelling 'blah blah' like a child, and starts crying when I call him out for his agenda. Yet another 'edgy' internet troll. Surprised he isn't red.
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Originally Posted By TheNewbie⏩
Sad and tragic.
I don't have anything to say that hasn't been already said, and I have no solutions to this horrific situation where it became a norm for degenerates to randomly massacre kids in school.


I would however make 1 amendment to the law. In horrific scenarios like this, the murderer should be executed ASAP and all of his organs will be harvested for donations.

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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
no thats what they did in german,austria,swedne,sswitzerland etc etc

are you just trying to write things to write things? or do you actually have a proof to support it?
Gun confiscation from citizens is what you're talking about. Guess what happens when only the government has guns? The government no longer fears the citizenry.

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..." - George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

I honestly think the gun grabbers don't understand why we will fight tooth and nail against gun control. It's not because we think kids getting killed in schools by madmen is a fair tradeoff for us to be able to go and plink targets for fun at the gun range... it's because we don't trust any government who would advocate the confiscation of our guns, to at the same time guarantee our other liberties against infringement.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
LMAO at this barely literate fool. He enters the thread yelling 'blah blah' like a child, and starts crying when I call him out for his agenda. Yet another 'edgy' internet troll. Surprised he isn't red.
what agenda? i want to know why you need that type of gun in the community

but you can't answer it man.

Case Closed.
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Originally Posted By coolflow⏩
what agenda? i want to know why you need that type of gun in the community

but you can't answer it man.

Case Closed.
Your closed mind has nothing to do with the response of local authorities when presented with a case of a troubled individual who flaunted violent tendencies before this happened. People like you don't get something simple: what you want, and what reality is, are two different things. You should be more worried about the comment I left in your CP than your pathetic crusade here. Good luck with your search - I highly recommend you reconsider your pompous attitude and calling out people for being stupid etc. when you're clearly unable to see anything but your agenda within the context of dead civilians.
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guns, no guns, whatever.

Seems like your children are becoming more and more endangered while the two sides just argue like *******s and manage to do nothing about it.

I feel for all the kids families, what a chit way to go.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
if that's asinines logic , then riddle me this , why do countries that runs under a gun control government have lest random shootouts than the United states?
So you are basing your gun control rationale on mass shootings only? You just want to ignore that those other countries did not see a significant reduction in homicides and in fact the gun ban in the UK resulted in a sharp increase of homicides for the decade that followed it before falling down to about even to pre ban levels. The UK also has 2-3 times the violent crime per capita the US does even tho the US is significantly larger. You also want to ignore that our gang population is larger than many of those countries and accounts for around 80-90% of our gun violence.

You also want to ignore that several countries that ban guns also have higher crime rates than the middle east, mexico, brazil etc.

I guarantee you banning guns in the US will massively increase our crime and homicide rates as criminals will still get guns and law abiding citizens will be the only ones who comply with the ban

Also why do you ignore my post regarding how gun ownership has skyrocketted but gun violence has declined sig ificantly

https://www.allenwest.com/2016/01/18...r-gun-control/

THE ONLY SOLUTION TO STOPPING MASS SHOOTINGS IS LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARMED AND TRAINED TO STOP EVIL

Its really not that hard
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Your closed mind has nothing to do with the response of local authorities when presented with a case of a troubled individual who flaunted violent tendencies before this happened. People like you don't get something simple: what you want, and what reality is, are two different things. You should be more worried about the comment I left in your CP than your pathetic crusade here. Good luck with your search - I highly recommend you reconsider your pompous attitude and calling out people for being stupid etc. when you're clearly unable to see anything but your agenda within the context of dead civilians.
likewise brah.

if that's the best thing you could come up with in my cp then aussies have it pretty good.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
Gun confiscation from citizens is what you're talking about. Guess what happens when only the government has guns? The government no longer fears the citizenry.

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..." - George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

I honestly think the gun grabbers don't understand why we will fight tooth and nail against gun control. It's not because we think kids getting killed in schools by madmen is a fair tradeoff for us to be able to go and plink targets for fun at the gun range... it's because we don't trust any government who would advocate the confiscation of our guns, to at the same time guarantee our other liberties against infringement.
jesus what movie are you quoting lol " The government no longer fears the citizenry." cause the governement cant obliterate the "citizenry" cause they are all stacked up on their deadly AR 10's and ar15's


and all the quotes you posted date back to the 1700's when owning a weapon was a necessity vs the indians or the dalton and clanton gangs. this doesnt apply now


I honestly think the gun grabbers don't understand why we will fight tooth and nail against gun control. It's not because we think kids getting killed in schools by madmen is a fair tradeoff for us to be able to go and plink targets for fun at the gun range... it's because we don't trust any government who would advocate the confiscation of our guns, to at the same time guarantee our other liberties against infringement.
the real reason for the above "given you arent,werent ex-mil" that it makes up for their tiny 1 inch p3n0rs and make them feel like real men ...what youre calling for is the redneck revolt

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Originally Posted By coolflow⏩
likewise brah.

if that's the best thing you could come up with in my cp then aussies have it pretty good.
Good that you think you have it pretty good. What is fascinating is your perception that Australia is a true land of the free makes you think you're in a position to talk about what happens in the USA, with your immense expertise in the subject matter. Hint: sarcasm. And your comments are essentially a living meme that could have been pulled off Friendster over a decade ago. So, fuq outta here with your idiocy.
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Originally Posted By coolflow⏩
what agenda? i want to know why you need that type of gun in the community

but you can't answer it man.

Case Closed.
Heres why:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
jesus what movie are you quoting lol " The government no longer fears the citizenry." cause the governement cant obliterate the "citizenry" cause they are all stacked up on their deadly AR 10's and ar15's


and all the quotes you posted date back to the 1700's when owning a weapon was a necessity vs the indians or the dalton and clanton gangs. this doesnt apply now







the real reason for the above "given you arent,werent ex-mil" that it makes up for their tiny 1 inch p3n0rs and make them feel like real men ...what youre calling for is the redneck revolt

LOL @ "quotes from the founding fathers don't apply now".

You also seem to have a really sketchy grasp of history.

The constitution was ratified in 1788. The Bill of Rights in 1791. That was only 227 years ago. That's not as long ago as you think.

I'd try to educate you, but there is too much you don't know about why the founding fathers wrote what they wrote. The 2nd amendment was not some last minute afterthought. It was pretty important and that's why it was #2.
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Can't imagine what it's like for those parents.

Fkn terrible.

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Originally Posted By BootneckBrah⏩
Can't imagine what it's like for those parents.

Fkn terrible.

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yep. parents of hsers are nor likely to reproduce again. if their only child died thats gotta feel life ending to them. no parents should die after their offspring.
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A tragedy, I don't want to imagine the anguish the parents are feeling. I also don't want to imagine the liberal sh*tstorm on social media, also those reporters should be fuking fired. Asking if there was blood? Really? Idiots. At least there are some intelligent people in this thread thinking objectively.
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