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post 1543913271 02-15-2018, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Why are the liberals always the most violent?
If I was a liberal, I'd have much pent up anger and hatred too
post 1543913691 02-15-2018, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Why are the liberals always the most violent?
Seems to me the most violent are alt right conservatives like the shooter in this case. Thats just me though.
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post 1543913811 02-15-2018, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Future24⏩
He didn't do anything illegal, but we should lock him up because people thought he was troubled?

lmao
If someone says they are gonna do something they should give them 2 options. Psych evaluation followed by therapy or you go to jail. If you pick therapy and stop with going to therapy before they figure out what is going on you go to jail.
post 1543914011 02-15-2018, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
Drastically limited accessibility to firearms by citizens probably would reduce schoolshootingsseeing as many are often legally purchased. At what cost to the general public?

This has limited impact on the use of firearms in every other form of criminal activity which accounts for the majority of firearm related homcide -considering the supply of weapons in our country. Just not clear on what you're suggesting.
In the original context of our discussion, mass shootings, not the majority of gun crimes. No one is going to rob a circle-k with a suicide vest strapped on. If we call a spade a spade, yes, limited access to firearms probably would reduce the number of mass shootings, but that has many unintended consequences of it's own including infringing on personal liberty, protection, and the 2nd amendment to protect against tyranny.

Freedoms and liberty come with a cost. The cost of having personal responsibility. That we enjoy these freedoms, and we like to say we are responsible with them, but there are those who are evil, and are not responsible with them. They use those freedoms to take lives. So what's the solution? Take away EVERYONE's freedom for a false sense the security?

Instead, we should safe-guard those who cannot protect themselves until they themselves CAN protect themselves with whatever our freedoms can afford them. It is up to the individual to mitigate harm because other people do harmful things.
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post 1543914021 02-15-2018, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By lildave⏩
If someone says they are gonna do something they should give them 2 options. Psych evaluation followed by therapy or you go to jail. If you pick therapy and stop with going to therapy before they figure out what is going on you go to jail.
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post 1543914131 02-15-2018, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By xxmrbeastxx⏩
Seems to me the most violent are alt right conservativeslike the shooter in this case.Thats just me though.
post 1543914451 02-15-2018, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Reality. There it is.


But hey, our government has nothing but the purest of intentions and our goodwill at heart in everything they do at all times and always will into perpetuity so it's okay to give them an absolute force monopoly
Why didn't they just use their guns to stop the government?
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post 1543914601 02-15-2018, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By STA556⏩
He was a member of a white supremacist group and known by students for wearing MAGA attire.

Edit: That’s not even the shooter you ****ing retard.
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post 1543914701 02-15-2018, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By xxmrbeastxx⏩
Seems to me the most violent are alt right conservatives like the shooter in this case. Thats just me though.
You should go look through the history of mass shooters. Almost all have been democrats. BLM riots and police murders, what political orientation do they have? Riots and looting because a Republican won the presidency...who were they again? Just sayin'....you probably don't want to go there.
post 1543914781 02-15-2018, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
In the original context of our discussion, mass shootings, not the majority of gun crimes. No one is going to rob a circle-k with a suicide vest strapped on. If we call a spade a spade, yes, limited access to firearms probably would reduce the number of mass shootings, but that has many unintended consequences of it's own including infringing on personal liberty, protection, and the 2nd amendment to protect against tyranny.

Freedoms and liberty come with a cost. The cost of having personal responsibility. That we enjoy these freedoms, and we like to say we are responsible with them, but there are those who are evil, and are not responsible with them. They use those freedoms to take lives. So what's the solution? Take away EVERYONE's freedom for a false sense the security?

Instead, we should safe-guard those who cannot protect themselves until they themselves CAN protect themselves with whatever our freedoms can afford them. It is up to the individual to mitigate harm because other people do harmful things.
post 1543914901 02-15-2018, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Future24⏩
Why didn't they just use their guns to stop the government?
Who use what guns to stop what?

The pre-teen children who were murdered use guns to fight the full force of the ATF?
post 1543915081 02-15-2018, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By borlef⏩
What a moron that guy is. Doomsday preppers are the biggest idiots ever. Keep waiting for the day paper money is worthless bud, cuz it'll be millennia after you're gone. And if **** hits the fan globally, it will be because we got hit by a meteor, or we run out of natural resources in 500 years.
Get your nose out of that other *******'s sphincter. My post was in response to Luci claiming that the ruling elite would use chemical and biological weapons against us, so there was no point to be armed against the government.

You're an overly emotional little girl. Grow up or STFU.

Oh yeah, and this...

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post 1543915121 02-15-2018, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By PeaceWithin⏩
Inb4 everything. Spot sold to the upcoming MISC R/P 20+ page thread regurgitating the same talking points.

Also starting a betting pool on how long it takes a politician to Tweet about this pushing an agenda, rather than offering condolences.


Also on behalf of OP...

http://fox5sandiego.com/2018/02/14/m...lorida-school/
This post aged like a fine, 40 year bottle of Scotch.
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post 1543915211 02-15-2018, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
You should go look through the history of mass shooters. Almost all have been democrats. BLM riots and police murders, what political orientation do they have? Riots and looting because a Republican won the presidency...who were they again? Just sayin'....you probably don't want to go there.
There is violence on both sides, it’s human nature. I’m sure if someone in your family was affected by something like this you’d change your mind, but for now you are the most stubborn person in this thread simply looking to argue.
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post 1543915451 02-15-2018, 02:37 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/u...-shooting.html
Mr. Jereb also said Mr. Cruz had “trouble with a girl” and he believed the timing of the attack, carried out on Valentine’s Day, wasn’t a coincidence.
I feel like you really have to suck at life very hard for the leader of yourwhite supremacist militiato go the media and basically say "LOL, what an FA".
Originally Posted By STA556⏩
You really couldn't tell that's a troll post?

At all?

It wasn't too obvious?
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
post 1543916281 02-15-2018, 02:47 PM
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trumpers are a deranged bunch
first try to say he was muslim because he did a google search to make fun of muslims then they spread fake news that he was a leftist antifa now they are blaming the fbi because they have been too focused on the trump russian investigation
post 1543916481 02-15-2018, 02:50 PM
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I literally just watched a video on ******** which was shot in one of the classrooms and showed one of the dead bodies.

Why?

First of all how prevalent were crimes before widespread use of cell-phones?

Were they THAT bad that landlines and pay phones weren't sufficient?

Secondly they're helping breed morons who are so disconnected with reality that they think it's OK to film a dead body.

(IMO it's VERY disrespectful how people film, take pictures etc. of dead bodies etc.)

Not only that but a recently deceased person, in all likelihood for the purpose of attention on social media.

How many crimes are committed while onlookers stand by idly but are making sure to record with their phones?

You sit here and record and plaster videos of these horrific things all over the internet and 2 things are going on:

1. No person who's normal in the head actually wants to see that.

2. It gives the murderers a sense of celebrity, which makes the crime that much more enticing for the next person.
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At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
post 1543916591 02-15-2018, 02:51 PM
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not gonna lie.. i think its a huge advantage. cops can use the footage to get an inside look/ map of the place and get a better understanding of whats going on.

i mean chit.. if you saw a dead body in the room and then other kids unharmed/ talking and there was no shooting you'd assume he's not in the same area/ has moved on
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you are right 0P but there is nothing we can do about it


the ignorance is way too strong now
post 1543916791 02-15-2018, 02:52 PM
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An individual who received treatment for mental illness, was expelled from school presumably for violent behavior, posted disturbing things online on a public profile, easily managed to buy a semi-automatic weapon legally.

But... the problem = cell phones.
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Let's ban cell phone right...? Disrespectful People will disrespect despite what tools they have.
post 1543916871 02-15-2018, 02:53 PM
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The obvious answer is to shame this sort of conduct, but we can't shame people anymore for fear of shame-shaming.

Wait.

Fuark.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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ban cell phones
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
If we call a spade a spade, yes, limited access to firearms probably would reduce the number of mass shootings, but that has many unintended consequences of it's own including infringing on personal liberty, protection, and the 2nd amendment to protect against tyranny.
finally someone admits it. Yes, we could reduce the slaughterings but since rednecks want to play with guns we have to let people die instead.
post 1543917101 02-15-2018, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
not gonna lie.. i think its a huge advantage. cops can use the footage to get an inside look/ map of the place and get a better understanding of whats going on.

i mean chit.. if you saw a dead body in the room and then other kids unharmed/ talking and there was no shooting you'd assume he's not in the same area/ has moved on
Cops are not going to get on social media to look for 'live' pictures or photos from inside and attempt to determine what's happening or where the shooter is based on that. They are going to go in and find him
post 1543917181 02-15-2018, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
An individual who received treatment for mental illness, was expelled from school presumably for violent behavior, posted disturbing things online on a public profile, easily managed to buy a semi-automatic weapon legally.

But... the problem = cell phones.
Originally Posted By tyn89⏩
Let's ban cell phone right...? Disrespectful People will disrespect despite what tools they have.
We would in fact saves more lives and more 'childrens' lives by banning cell phones than any 'gun ban', because of the dozen or more teens that die every single day from texting and driving accidents

But it's not about savings lives
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
An individual who received treatment for mental illness, was expelled from school presumably for violent behavior, posted disturbing things online on a public profile, easily managed to buy a semi-automatic weapon legally.

But... the problem = cell phones.
no dumba$$ the problem is not enough guns.
post 1543917271 02-15-2018, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
finally someone admits it. Yes, we could reduce the slaughterings but since rednecks want to play with guns we have to let people die instead.
Finally, you admit you want a police state with no rights, liberties, freedoms, or personal responsibility
post 1543917491 02-15-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
I literally just watched a video on ******** which was shot in one of the classrooms and showed one of the dead bodies.

Why?

First of all how prevalent were crimes before widespread use of cell-phones?

Were they THAT bad that landlines and pay phones weren't sufficient?

Secondly they're helping breed morons who are so disconnected with reality that they think it's OK to film a dead body.

(IMO it's VERY disrespectful how people film, take pictures etc. of dead bodies etc.)

Not only that but a recently deceased person, in all likelihood for the purpose of attention on social media.

How many crimes are committed while onlookers stand by idly but are making sure to record with their phones?

You sit here and record and plaster videos of these horrific things all over the internet and 2 things are going on:

1. No person who's normal in the head actually wants to see that.

2. It gives the murderers a sense of celebrity, which makes the crime that much more enticing for the next person.
Obviously cell phones and technology aren’t going anywhere, but like I said earlier I do agree they play a role in events like this.
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post 1543917571 02-15-2018, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By xxmrbeastxx⏩
Obviously guns aren’t going anywhere
This, also true.
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