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post 1543949721 02-15-2018, 08:58 PM
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All I'm saying is that we legalize and destigmatize hookers. You think these guys would be worked up if they were getting laid regularly? You think ER would have spent years working up these bizarre ideas about women if his dad had just taken him to a whore house when he turned 16? These disturbed young white males wouldn't be so disturbed if they had easy access to an outlet like that.

Just think about it: there are hundreds of girls who go out every weekend to get drunk and dicked by strangers. If she were getting paid for it, she could be a small businesswoman.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
1. Banning certain types of guns will not stop any gun homicides.
2. An actual proposal, repeatedly posted ITT, is to have armed security, armed teachers, or more LEOs at schools so that school shooters get shoot instead of going on a rampage.
1. Not sure where i suggested banning certain types of firearms.
2. So we let uneducated/untrained Teacher Mary keep a Glock 17 in her desk in case lil Timmy snaps one day and brings his dads unlocked/not secured AR-15 to school?
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Originally Posted By Future24⏩
Did you read what I posted or are you just spamming your "gun knowledge"? Look up gun show loophole and private sales that take place there. Look up the rules for that.
There is no such thing as a gun show loophole. The laws are exactly the same as they are in the rest of the state (or possibly more strict I suppose, but never less)
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
1. Not sure where i suggested banning certain types of firearms.
2. So we let uneducated/untrained Teacher Mary keep a Glock 17 in her desk in case lil Timmy snaps one day and brings his dads unlocked/not secured AR-15 to school?
Uneducated/untrained teacher Mary can carry a handgun with her nearly everywhere else, why the **** not at work?
post 1543950021 02-15-2018, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Tell us again what your solution is, then, since it's so great.

Surely, OP will deliver
- Prescription for guns
- Stricter background checks, no supply if you have criminal history or psych history

But we've been through this. You don't like the first one because you think it's not fair on your rights and you claimed the second one wouldn't work (even though it clearly would)
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
no there was a fuken armed cop who engaged them and it did nothing
No actually he ran outside like a chicken chit. But what are facts to shills like you whatever you can do to take away freedom right?
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
1. Not sure where i suggested banning certain types of firearms.
2. So we let uneducated/untrained Teacher Mary keep a Glock 17 in her desk in case lil Timmy snaps one day and brings his dads unlocked/not secured AR-15 to school?
How many retired LEO/Mil are teachers?

Do you know how easy basic pistol marksmanship is to learn? Do you know how easy it would be to put a gun locker at a school with a rifle or two in it?

Do you think that the gym teacher who stood in front of the muzzle of a rifle so that his students could escape wouldn't take a couple of combat shooting classes?

Not all teachers are 70 year old women...
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
1. Not sure where i suggested banning certain types of firearms.
2. So we let uneducated/untrained Teacher Mary keep a Glock 17 in her desk in case lil Timmy snaps one day and brings his dads unlocked/not secured AR-15 to school?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxne...asses.amp.html

Majority of states require training for ccws and teachers are lining up to take them
post 1543950311 02-15-2018, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Uneducated/untrained teacher Mary can carry a handgun with her nearly everywhere else, why the **** not at work?

News flash: Private citizens defending themselves or others with firearms is almost always a success for the lawful carrier
Not sure why you deleted this.

So just so we are clear, you're against education/training for proper firearms handling?
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
- Prescription for guns
- Stricter background checks, no supply if you have criminal history or psych history

But we've been through this. You don't like the first one because you think it's not fair on your rights and you claimed the second one wouldn't work (even though it clearly would)
So to be clear, your proposal would not have even stopped the shooting you are knee-jerk reacting to, although it would cause a whole lot of honest law abiding folks to be unarmed when they otherwise wouldn't be. Gotcha.
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Lol time to get rid of all the Vehicles! Too many drunk drivers!! Not to mention GLOBAL WARMING BRUHS. But nobody wanna give up their vehicles huh?

I mean, why haven't we made it illegal to murder people? shirley that would stop the violence right?? Criminals/mentally unstable people would never break the law would they??
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post 1543950681 02-15-2018, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
How many retired LEO/Mil are teachers?

Do you know how easy basic pistol marksmanship is to learn? Do you know how easy it would be to put a gun locker at a school with a rifle or two in it?

Do you think that the gym teacher who stood in front of the muzzle of a rifle so that his students could escape wouldn't take a couple of combat shooting classes?

Not all teachers are 70 year old women...
You didn't reply to point 1. Where did i say i wanted certain types of firearms banned?

I think education is great and i am for your idea of arming teachers if they are properly trained/educated in firearm handling.

Is that an end all solution? Why are so many american firearms owners so scared of more screening/better background checks?
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post 1543950751 02-15-2018, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By SippyCups⏩
Pretty sure the solution has to be more guns.
Nah

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post 1543950781 02-15-2018, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
- Prescription for guns
- Stricter background checks, no supply if you have criminal history or psych history

But we've been through this. You don't like the first one because you think it's not fair on your rights and you claimed the second one wouldn't work (even though it clearly would)
1. Strict Background checks don't work when you're dealing with a product that is ubiquitous, especially when it is not consumable.
2. "prescriptions for guns" is a ridiculous idea, because the default is to allow gun ownership, not to permit it.
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What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" are you having trouble with?

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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
You didn't reply to point 1. Where did i say i wanted certain types of firearms banned?

I think education is great and i am for your idea of arming teachers if they are properly trained/educated in firearm handling.

Is that an end all solution? Why are so many american firearms owners so scared of more screening/better background checks?
Why do people who like their Rights and Liberties, and the Rights and Liberties of others, want to avoid additional government restrictions, red tape, expenses, and hoops...gee
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Lol time to get rid of all the Vehicles! Too many drunk drivers!! Not to mention GLOBAL WARMING BRUHS. But nobody wanna give up their vehicles huh?

I mean, why haven't we made it illegal to murder people? shirley that would stop the violence right?? Criminals/mentally unstable people would never break the law would they??
Good point brah. We should decriminalize murder since the law is ineffective
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post 1543950951 02-15-2018, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
There is no such thing as a gun show loophole. The laws are exactly the same as they are in the rest of the state (or possibly more strict I suppose, but never less)
Are you really this oblivious or do you just pretend it doesn't exist on purpose?

What is the “gun show loophole”?

The Gun Control Act of 1968 requires anyone engaged in the business of selling guns to have a Federal Firearms License (FFL) and keep a record of their sales. However, this law does not cover all gun sellers. If a supplier is selling from his or her private collection and the principal objective is not to make a profit, the seller is not “engaged in the business” and is not required to have a license. Because they are unlicensed, these sellers are not required to keep records of sales and are not required to perform background checks on potential buyers, even those prohibited from purchasing guns by the Gun Control Act. The gun show loophole refers to the fact that prohibited purchasers can avoid required background checks by seeking out these unlicensed sellers at gun shows.

https://www.csgv.org/issues-archive/...-loophole-faq/
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post 1543950971 02-15-2018, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
You didn't reply to point 1. Where did i say i wanted certain types of firearms banned?

I think education is great and i am for your idea of arming teachers if they are properly trained/educated in firearm handling.

Is that an end all solution? Why are so many american firearms owners so scared of more screening/better background checks?
Did you? It seems the default.

"Background checks" require registration. Registration leads to confiscation.

Not interested in having our guns confiscated.
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What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" are you having trouble with?

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post 1543951031 02-15-2018, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Why do people who like their Rights and Liberties, and the Rights and Liberties of others, want to avoid additional government restrictions, red tape, expenses, and hoops...gee
Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
Not sure why you deleted this.

So just so we are clear, you're against education/training for proper firearms handling?
You gonna knit pick your replies now?

Why'd you delete what i bolded and not answer my question?
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post 1543951151 02-15-2018, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Did you? It seems the default.

"Background checks" require registration. Registration leads to confiscation.

Not interested in having our guns confiscated.
My R-15 and other handguns and rifles have never been confiscated. I haven't beat my girlfriend or threatened to kill myself so maybe that's why.
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Lol time to get rid of all the Vehicles! Too many drunk drivers!! Not to mention GLOBAL WARMING BRUHS. But nobody wanna give up their vehicles huh?

I mean, why haven't we made it illegal to murder people? shirley that would stop the violence right?? Criminals/mentally unstable people would never break the law would they??
Can you weigh the pros and cons of legalization of cars and guns for me please. I guarantee the pros of allowing vehicles HEAVILY outweighs the cons, while the pros and cons for gun sales are much closer.
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Originally Posted By Future24⏩
Are you really this oblivious or do you just pretend it doesn't exist on purpose?

What is the “gun show loophole”?

The Gun Control Act of 1968 requires anyone engaged in the business of selling guns to have a Federal Firearms License (FFL) and keep a record of their sales. However, this law does not cover all gun sellers. If a supplier is selling from his or her private collection and the principal objective is not to make a profit, the seller is not “engaged in the business” and is not required to have a license. Because they are unlicensed, these sellers are not required to keep records of sales and are not required to perform background checks on potential buyers, even those prohibited from purchasing guns by the Gun Control Act. The gun show loophole refers to the fact that prohibited purchasers can avoid required background checks by seeking out these unlicensed sellers at gun shows.

https://www.csgv.org/issues-archive/...-loophole-faq/
Yes, we are aware that in many states private transfers between two individuals who are not licensed dealers do not require federal government permission and record keeping. That's not a loophole, that's just what the law is.
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
You gonna knit pick your replies now?

Why'd you delete what i bolded and not answer my question?
Is what an "end all" solution to what?
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Originally Posted By Future24⏩
Are you really this oblivious or do you just pretend it doesn't exist on purpose?

What is the “gun show loophole”?

The Gun Control Act of 1968 requires anyone engaged in the business of selling guns to have a Federal Firearms License (FFL) and keep a record of their sales. However, this law does not cover all gun sellers. If a supplier is selling from his or her private collection and the principal objective is not to make a profit, the seller is not “engaged in the business” and is not required to have a license. Because they are unlicensed, these sellers are not required to keep records of sales and are not required to perform background checks on potential buyers, even those prohibited from purchasing guns by the Gun Control Act. The gun show loophole refers to the fact that prohibited purchasers can avoid required background checks by seeking out these unlicensed sellers at gun shows.

https://www.csgv.org/issues-archive/...-loophole-faq/
Ah, I see where you're confused. That's not a loophole, it's a feature of a system based on an assumption that if you live in an armed society it shouldn't be criminal to transfer a gun on the secondary market or to give one to, say, your brother or a friend.
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What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" are you having trouble with?

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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
It must upset you that i'm a PAL and RPAL carrier and i own an R-15, 1911 and several hunting rifles.
I'm not upset by people who own guns. I think an armed society is a polite society.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Yes, we are aware that in many states private transfers between two individuals who are not licensed dealers do not require federal government permission and record keeping. That's not a loophole, that's just what the law is.
That is why its called a "Gun Show" loophole, because you can do that at a gun show...
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Originally Posted By HughBMyron⏩
My R-15 and other handguns and rifles have never been confiscated. I haven't beat my girlfriend or threatened to kill myself so maybe that's why.
Because nobody wants that hunk of junk
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Ah, I see where you're confused. That's not a loophole, it's a feature of a system based on an assumption that if you live in an armed society it shouldn't be criminal to transfer a gun on the secondary market or to give one to, say, your brother or a friend.
Or a random stranger at a gun show. Where am I confused exactly?
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Originally Posted By Future24⏩
That is why its called a "Gun Show" loophole, because you can do that at a gun show...
You can do that anywhere in the entire state at any time.

It's erroneously referred to as a "gun show loophole" by the people pushing an agenda because they know labeling something a "loophole" implies it's not supposed to be that way.

It IS supposed to be that way. That is exactly how it was intended to be.
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