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post 1544001041 02-16-2018, 11:05 AM
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post 1544001901 02-16-2018, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Are you dismissing genetics? You do realise that there are natties that will bench 405 for reps while other will never see 315 right? Do you not know anyone personally who puts on muscle faster than everyone else and hasn't visited the dark side?
Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
Nobody natty is dry full and looks like they have a pump at all times. Youll never look like this without gear.


As far as mass and muscle bellies go you are completely wrong. Some people are just better off from the get go. Frame and test levels along with genetic disposition to build and hold more mass. Plus insertions, all of those things matter significantly.
Well, I guess that's my general point. These Yootoob fitness celeries all claim "natty" despite having a dry/perma-pumped look at all times. (Not that I watch them 24/7, but they maintain that "pump" even in street clothes well after workouts). I've had cyclists in gyms, for years, claim they weren't riding bikes but they kept that dry/pumped/capped delts look all day. I looked deflated when really lean, except during workouts and maybe the 15 minutes following it.

I think genetics matter, sure. People with a higher concentration of fast-twitch fibers tend to have a naturally greater propensity for explosive movements/strength, and, in theory, building muscle. I don't, however, believe it matters as much as people think with regard to bodybuilding. And I also, definitely, don't believe a word any sponsored "athlete" says. Guys use the "genetics" card to justify their bike riding in the same way fat people use the "metabolism" card to justify their obesity. It's a convenient excuse that fools most people. Someone with "good genetics" v "average" genetics is not going to be the difference between Jeff Seid (lol) and me.
post 1544002681 02-16-2018, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
6'1 200+ lbs right now and still feel small. Feel ashamedevery time a 6'3 or 30% bf guy walks past.He'll anyone who is 30% bf dwarfs me
I'm saying this as someone who spent much of his teens and early 20's sub 170lbs @ 6"2 - how often does someone walk past and is legitimately bigger than you? At my current size I walk past people and not only are 9/10 people noticeably smaller than me but I can tell I'm heavier built that most people too. I would love to be 210 - 225lbs but given how far I've come, if I never gained another pound I would be content with that. Managing to not look like an emaciated skeleton in my ******** pics is enough for me.

The average adult man is what, 5"8 - 5"9 and 170lbs? Nothing to worry about.

Ultimately id rather be 6"2 200lbs than 5"8 230. I have a mate who's 5"9 220lbs but a picture of us together? Yeah he has bigger arms but my shoulders are broader, my chest wider and obv i have height advantage... being tall counts.
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post 1544003031 02-16-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By RealAesthetic⏩
- age: 25
- know what you are talking about


pick one
As if you're some wise old sage at 29? Just lol

How about this one
-RealAesthetic
-doesn't know what ad hominem is

Pick both
post 1544003131 02-16-2018, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted By RushEm⏩

Always a bigger fish.
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Originally Posted By NorthernLad93⏩
I'm saying this as someone who spent much of his teens and early 20's sub 170lbs @ 6"2 - but how often does someone walk past and is legitimately bigger than you? At my current size I walk past people and not only are 9/10 people noticeably smaller than me but I can tell I'm heavier built that most people too. I would love to be 210 - 225lbs but given how far I've come, if I never gained another pound I would be content with that. Managing to not look like an emaciated skeleton in my ******** pics is enough for me.

The average adult man is what, 5"8 - 5"9 and 170lbs? Nothing to worry about.
Shame social media is so deceptive. Dudes on there looking huge but rarely disclose they're only 165-170 lbs.
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post 1544009031 02-16-2018, 12:03 PM
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post 1544009231 02-16-2018, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
Yeah im a former fat kid I just stay disciplined and i stick to a diet i enjoy. I love food so im not eating bland foods and i learned how to cook. It removed the need to cheat and wreck my diet. When cutting i drink a lot of zero carb rockstars or take an ec stack and that really helps. A lot of fat people have potential and theyre generally pretty robust they just never put in the work to overcome.bad habits and maximize their genetic potential. Skinny people just have an easier starting point on the surface because they see their gains right away but generally i dont see those people get nearly as big as someone with a naturally bigger frame and muscular set point without teching.
ill agree with this 100% 13 months ago I was 349lbs im now down to 262. The process SUCKED and still does but it is so much easier now as I am used to the hunger and used to the better eating I DESPISE fast food and will actually get sick to my stomach if I cave in with the kids and eat it. seeing the gains physically is obviously not as easy as measurements are very inaccurate due to fat mass and water retention. I overcame this simply by utilizing a written log of every workout and utilizing stronglifts 5x5 and watching my increase in strength. Granted my physique is still nowhere near most or hardly all on here or where I want to be but I do get comments from others already (which is very reassuring). I still remember the first time I was in the gym and someone came and interrupted my routine to ask me for advise....still weird for that but thanks to reading on here I do feel rather informed and have recently joined in posting.
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Originally Posted By deputydawg87⏩
ill agree with this 100% 13 months ago I was 349lbs im now down to 262. The process SUCKED and still does but it is so much easier now as I am used to the hunger and used to the better eating I DESPISE fast food and will actually get sick to my stomach if I cave in with the kids and eat it. seeing the gains physically is obviously not as easy as measurements are very inaccurate due to fat mass and water retention. I overcame this simply by utilizing a written log of every workout and utilizing stronglifts 5x5 and watching my increase in strength. Granted my physique is still nowhere near most or hardly all on here or where I want to be but I do get comments from others already (which is very reassuring). I still remember the first time I was in the gym and someone came and interrupted my routine to ask me for advise....still weird for that but thanks to reading on here I do feel rather informed and have recently joined in posting.
Stop posting or the next thing you know you'll have thousands of posts and dress like a mythical creature.
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post 1544014451 02-16-2018, 12:45 PM
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post 1544014721 02-16-2018, 12:48 PM
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post 1544014731 02-16-2018, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Stop posting or the next thing you know you'll have thousands of posts and dress like a mythical creature.
HAHA....I have 2 toddlers...I might have already dressed mythical....thousands I doubt but I am starting to have fun on here.
post 1544014921 02-16-2018, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By deputydawg87⏩
HAHA....I have 2 toddlers...I might have already dressed mythical....thousands I doubt but I am starting to have fun on here.
Fuk, it's already too late.

Oh well


Spoiler!
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post 1544015381 02-16-2018, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Just gonna leave this here.



And Marky Mark is a pretty jacked guy. But 5'8" manlets gonna manlet.

Even when Shaq was at his fattest, supposedly 32% body fat and 324 lb, he had 220 lb of pure lean mass.

Mark Wahlberg is 5'8" 220 lb, about 15% bodyfat. On OJ, he still gets mogged by about 13 lb of pure muscle from Shaq. And Shaq has that natty fatty bloat to boot. In a fight, Shaq would literally toss him around like a ragdoll. Shaq's FFMI is like 21 or something. He doesn't really watch his diet, doesn't lift regularly and he probably isn't even on anything. This is the nature of genetics. This is the world we live in. Note how weak sauce the Rock looks in the fuking picture by comparison. That's the fuking Rock dude...Natty or not, you will never be big if you are a manlet.
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Originally Posted By StrawberryMixer⏩
In the eyes of a non-lifter, you absolutely can

Everyone who lifts quickly develops a distorted view of what being muscular means
Most accurate thing I’ve ever heard. Currently 220-225lbs at 6’3 and feel pathetic. The day you start lifting is the day you are forever small.
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
lol at how awkward the left side of this photo is, especially compared to the right
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Originally Posted By Zwicker⏩
Well, I guess that's my general point. These Yootoob fitness celeries all claim "natty" despite having a dry/perma-pumped look at all times. (Not that I watch them 24/7, but they maintain that "pump" even in street clothes well after workouts). I've had cyclists in gyms, for years, claim they weren't riding bikes but they kept that dry/pumped/capped delts look all day. I looked deflated when really lean, except during workouts and maybe the 15 minutes following it.

I think genetics matter, sure. People with a higher concentration of fast-twitch fibers tend to have a naturally greater propensity for explosive movements/strength, and, in theory, building muscle. I don't, however, believe it matters as much as people think with regard to bodybuilding. And I also, definitely, don't believe a word any sponsored "athlete" says. Guys use the "genetics" card to justify their bike riding in the same way fat people use the "metabolism" card to justify their obesity. It's a convenient excuse that fools most people. Someone with "good genetics" v "average" genetics is not going to be the difference between Jeff Seid (lol) and me.
Agreed.

Studies have shown that taking (the stuff) and NOT working out is > than natties. The study showed people who take the stuff + workout gained the most, those who took the stuff but didnt workout gained the 2nd most, and then natties that trained gained the 3rd most.

So, just lol @ those excuses.
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Originally Posted By NorthernLad93⏩
I'm saying this as someone who spent much of his teens and early 20's sub 170lbs @ 6"2 - how often does someone walk past and is legitimately bigger than you? At my current size I walk past people and not only are 9/10 people noticeably smaller than me but I can tell I'm heavier built that most people too. I would love to be 210 - 225lbs but given how far I've come, if I never gained another pound I would be content with that. Managing to not look like an emaciated skeleton in my ******** pics is enough for me.

The average adult man is what, 5"8 - 5"9 and 170lbs? Nothing to worry about.

Ultimately id rather be 6"2 200lbs than 5"8 230. I have a mate who's 5"9 220lbs but a picture of us together? Yeah he has bigger arms but my shoulders are broader, my chest wider and obv i have height advantage... being tall counts.
Anyone who is around my height and higher bf% looks bigger. Because so many people these days are fat bonecels. I work at an office and i swear at least half the men there are well over 6ft and 30% bf. All these guys have the Big Cass physique but they dwarf me

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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
didn't say it looks good- it's just not fat
If you have muscle you have to be 25-30% to even be close to fat. 20% is just slightly overweight
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Felt like a legit twig at my avis conditioning until I remembered what it was like to be 30lbs lighter.

I'm glad I see guys bigger than me all the time... it just keeps me chasing something. We're all gonna make it.
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It’s possible. Only have to be consistent for 5-10+ years
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Genetics.

I am 6'2 205 lbs, very athletic built but not ripped I have to deal with fat genetics which really blows balls I workout 3 - 4 times a week and play football yet other people I know rarely workout eat like crap 24/7 yet are lean with abs.

Genetics genetics genetics is #1 #2 & #3 for how you look & how you will look once you start consuming more calories & putting muscle on.
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