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post 1544549071 02-22-2018, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
So basically it falls in line with population density. If we get rid of the high numbers of people the problem will be fixed.
So ultimately, it solves itself?
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Don't la and nyc have really restrictive gun laws??

Lol... they should probably rethink their policies a bit..
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post 1544560141 02-22-2018, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Auraria⏩
It's not a gun problem, and never will be a gun problem.
People have been killing eachother since the beginning of man, and it will continue until we're extinct.

Stop blaming guns for the actions of people.
We don't blame a car for a drunk driver killing some one.
just lol at people who think this
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Comparing american gun laws/stats to ANY other country is fruitless. America has 50% of the world's firearms. When other countries really tightened the gun laws, there werent 350 million legally owned firearms already in circulation. Claiming to fight gun violence with gun laws/bans (yes, liberals ultimate goal is to make america's gun laws as tough as say...the UKs. Gun control laws are just the first step. Dianne feinstein already tried this in the 90s.) is like saying you are going to end world poverty by moving all the SERIOUSLY poor people in the world (~3.5 billion) to 1st world countries. It simply cannot be done
I was pretty impressed you formulated this yourself when I read this last night.

After reading up on a lot of these debates today and I realized it's a basic canned talking point everyone on the right is using.
post 1544601501 02-22-2018, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
just lol at people who think this
Great counter argument... lots of well thought out detail. So when terrorists flew planes into buildings ... was it the plane? When Timothy McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma City ... it was the trucks fault right... wait no... the fertilizer?

You see... your argument and every person that thinks like you stems from an incorrect belief that guns are inherently evil. Evil is a human term that requires action. Guns don't act upon themselves... they require a human to pull the trigger. Therefore, they can't be evil. This is why people like yourself will scream about guns when some psycho unloads on school children, but, you hang silent when a women blasts a couple thugs trying to rape her.

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post 1544601941 02-22-2018, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By LiveOnce⏩
Hurr durr muh guns

U backwoods idiot.
I totally see what you mean friend. Thank you for showing me the light and convincing me that fighting fire with fire is too fair and our kids dont deserve the best protection methods. I will rest easy knowing that after every school shooting, I can say "At least there arent more defensive firearms in schools for protection. Instead, I am glad that we handed every kid a pamphlet that said "guns are bad, only police and military should have them. We hope the bad guys will see the light and turn theirs in. You better learn how to serpentine."
Originally Posted By Cinderblock⏩
I was pretty impressed you formulated this yourself when I read this last night.

After reading up on a lot of these debates today and I realized it's a basic canned talking point everyone on the right is using.
This is not as complex as people are making it. School shootings will continue to happen. Tightening gun laws will probably help some, but like ive said a 1000 times, its just a half measure because a firearm WILL find its way into some crazy guys hands. In that case, would you want qualified teachers to be able to engage and return fire or just run, hide and hope the cops get there quickly?

Gun control laws will have some difference, but there are laws in place to curb DUI and how has that worked? I'm just gonna assume that your reason for opposition on this idea is "more guns = more violence." The most common point used by the left. I get that laws are the best method that doesnt involve more violence, but gun laws will not effect anyone besides law abiding citizens and will not effect someone who has already acquired their weapon s over time (Las Vegas shooter). I am still flabbergasted that people WANT educators to be useless in stopping school shootings. You are more than welcome to live under fake security with gun laws and gun free zones if you want. I'll continue to be able to protect myself AND try and end the threat in the meantime because I will handle my own security. Just make sure you carry around a "No weapons allowed" sign so when a mass shooter shows up, you can call him an idiot for breaking the law.

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Daily reminder the 2nd amendment wasn't meant to let everyone have guns.


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post 1544603321 02-22-2018, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By DamagedAndDull⏩
Daily reminder the 2nd amendment wasn't meant to let everyone have guns.


http://www.english.illinois.edu/-peo...ssays/guns.pdf
The 2A wasnt meant for a chit ton of things. It wasnt written so the government could limit it either but I dont see it anywhere in this document
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post 1544604151 02-22-2018, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
just lol at people who think this
you're the guy that supports door-to-door police raids to confiscate anything and everything deemed illegal by the government, if i recall?
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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post 1544604341 02-22-2018, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
The 2A wasnt meant for a chit ton of things. It wasnt written so the government could limit it either but I dont see it anywhere in this document
Gun regulation is supposed to be up the states.
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am i the only one who just doesn't care? don't care if my guns are banned, don't care about statistically insignificant shootings

pretty much just live my life and grab sloots by the pussy srs
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post 1544604811 02-22-2018, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
you're the guy that supports door-to-door police raids to confiscate anything and everything deemed illegal by the government, if i recall?
Liberals claim they are against violence but sure as chit dont mind using it to enforce totaletarian communist policies
Originally Posted By DamagedAndDull⏩
Gun regulation is supposed to be up the states.
Yes i know. The states were originally meant to have more power than the federal government but statists have chipped away at that for decades
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post 1544605951 02-22-2018, 05:42 PM
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Everyone in here is bitching about grouping mass shootings with gang shootings and all I can see is the defensive use number of 221 and compare it to the 7,701 total number of incidents. Either gun owning, law abiding, citizens are making an effort to let potential threats know they are armed or personal security isn't as big of a problem as they make it out to be.
post 1544607841 02-22-2018, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By reddanak⏩
Everyone in here is bitching about grouping mass shootings with gang shootings and all I can see is the defensive use number of 221 and compare it to the 7,701 total number of incidents. Either gun owning, law abiding, citizens are making an effort to let potential threats know they are armed or personal security isn't as big of a problem as they make it out to be.
the left doesnt care about gang shootings or gun violence in Detroit, chicago, New Orleans etc. If they did, then they wouldnt exploit tragedies to push an agenda. its amazing how people now are so willing to disarm themselves and forfeit their best menas of self defense

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Originally Posted By P51⏩
I’ll tell you what would work. Mandatory psych evaluations every 4 years. It would be a win win. You would get most guns off the streets and most gun nuts on proper medicine. You have a history of mental illness? No guns. Already own a gun? You have X amount of time to see a shrink, if not you’re ass is going straight to jail and you don’t get to pass go. Hell can even take it a step further and do how the military does where they interview friends/family of people. If friends say you’re a loner who makes violent comments, no guns for you.


You pass the psych evaluation and you get as many AR-15s as your heart desires.
I'm sure you know this, but what you're proposing is discriminatory and unconstitutional.
Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Psych evals are a good idea in theory, (just another half measure) however:
1. Who would pay for them?
2. How is this not a fascist idea and violation of constitutional rights?
3. The ACLU themselves say it is a violation of rights to exclude people with mental illnesses from owning firearms (which was a MAJOR factor in the Trump administration rolling back the Obama era mandate)

Hypothetical situation: Would you be able to stop me from gaining entry to your home and stealing your firearms (assuming im one of the "mentally ill" who shouldnt own a firearm and that you own a weapon to protect your home)? What is to stop someone from stopping their shrink appts and evals and saying that the breech on their weapon exploded and turned their AR15 into scrap metal?
Originally Posted By P51⏩
1. Gun owners. It’s a fee. Pay to play.
2. Just because it’s a constitutional right doesn’t mean there aren’t laws limiting it. Hell there are laws right now....
3. And that was a ****en stupid statement and stupid thing to do.
Nothing, but if you’re caught in possession of a firearm and you aren’t up to date on your psych evaluation, you’re going to ****en prison, just like if you broke other laws? Gun nuts always say they follow the laws and aren’t criminals, this should be a non issue.
You don't get to make people pay arbitrary fees to exercise constitutional rights. Period. Are you American?
Originally Posted By Murk
Having somebody pay to exercise their 2A is unconstitutional. You do know that concealed permit holders have a crime rate lower than that of cops, right? How are you going to get the gang members to do their psych evals? Won't people lie in psych evals?
How about this, people who are known to drink, from the social drinker up to the daily drinker, are forced to go get psych evals in order to operate a motor vehicle. Anybody who got caught talking/texting while driving must have their phones checked periodically for messages that were sent while driving.
Why stop there... we should make any person who follows the religion of Islam also submit to a psych test too. Since there have been 30,000+ islamic inspired attacks worldwide since 9/11, we must make our islamic citizens submit to evals because of the extremists and their wrongdoing. And since we are on the subject of having to pay to exercise our rights, if the cops come to your home and want to search it, you can pay them and then your 4th amendment right will kick in.
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Originally Posted By P51⏩
just lol at people who think this
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Armed security is probably the 2nd best idea to arming teachers.
I have to disagree. Arming teachers sounds like a good idea but the girls in my grade that became teachers, I don’t know any guys that became teachers, are the biggest bimbos and overall dumbest people I’ve ever met. They would be just as likely to accidentally shoot an innocent kid as a shooter would be to actually shooting someone.

Not to mention I’d bet that 80%, or something like that, of current teachers would be against having a gun in the classroom/using it.

Speaking on private grade/high schools, can’t say that anything I said applies to public.

I think a security guard is the best option.

Edit: didn’t see this thread was 4 pages long. I could have been proven wrong already.
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Originally Posted By Blueblob⏩
I have to disagree. Arming teachers sounds like a good idea but the girls in my grade that became teachers, I don’t know any guys that became teachers, are the biggest bimbos and overall dumbest people I’ve ever met. They would be just as likely to accidentally shoot an innocent kid as a shooter would be to actually shooting someone.

Not to mention I’d bet that 80%, or something like that, of current teachers would be against having a gun in the classroom/using it.

Speaking on private grade/high schools, can’t say that anything I said applies to public.

I think a security guard is the best option.

Edit: didn’t see this thread was 4 pages long. I could have been proven wrong already.
Armed guards are great options, but there are no real regulations as to how much job training they get. Plus, that would be HELLA expensive to impliment. However, i am all for forking over the money if it is the best option and not a half measure.

I'm also not saying that all teachers are forced to carry. That would be absolutely ridiculous and we arent communist scum. I am simply suggestion, put together a well thought out plan to train and arm teachers, standardize a strict training protocol, and offer incentives for the ones who are willing to elevate their role in the protection of the kids. A few armed guards here and there will have an impact, but 25% of the staff who are trained, armed and ready to engage a threat will do much better. Obviously, there are numerous obstacles to work over, like funding, training, where the firearms will come from, insurance and so on, but in the end, what is m oney and effort used to protect the kids?
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