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post 1545158081 02-28-2018, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
That pic of Dianne acting like a school girl is when Trump told her to add her ideas which she is an author of an AWB plan to the bill that will be presented to Trump at some time.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least at this point
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
It's hard to have a conversation with a person (troll) when they create arguments about things with zero knowledge of the subject in question
you said florida passed a law, i simply asked when and youre calling me a troll. ok jeff.
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Any chance of these bills passing CONgress?
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Wouldn't surprise me in the least at this point
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-di...t-weapons-ban/

55 seconds in.

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post 1545158431 02-28-2018, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By PepperedAngus⏩
The second I see someone type "I support gun rights, BUT" ... tells me everything I need to know about them as a person with true conviction.
Not smart to talk in absolutes, BUT you are right again in general.

Think of this topic as a chess game. IN GENERAL you don't give up material without compensation.

However, sometimes sacrificing increases your chance to win.

OUR REAL GOAL IS TO PRESERVE MAXIMUM GUN RIGHTS.

While I sure as hell don't trust Trump to play a tactical game. The NRA plays a very tactical game.

Trump is a populist and "Mental Health" and "Compromise" are very popular terms.

If you can control the "Mental Health" portion and restrict it to a process that requires trial by jury and burden of proof to be on the state... That is a HUGE WIN. Saying fuk you libs probably wont because the swayables will see that you "didn't try to prevent the mentally ill from having guns".

Going all in "No Compromise" can result in worse results. As a reminder our personal right to bare arms was upheld by a 5v4 vote... With the 4s promising to review it once they can. That is the liberals check mate. You CAN NOT give that up.

Farley for example telling OMNI to fuk off. Took a sway in our corner and put him out of our corner. Redirecting him to requiring "due process" was easy and filled his concerns.
post 1545158451 02-28-2018, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
you said florida passed a law, i simply asked when and youre calling me a troll. ok jeff.
Yeah because I talked about Trump's spearheading the age restriction potentially/likely influencing the FL age restriction, without the proper timeline having happened
post 1545158541 02-28-2018, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
If you can control the "Mental Health" portion and restrict it to a process that requires trial by jury and burden of proof to be on the state... That is a HUGE WIN
Where is this bill that requires trial by jury before any firearms are taken? Oh right that's exactly the opposite of what MAGA TRUMP is pushing for.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Yeah because I talked about Trump's spearheading the age restriction potentially/likely influencing the FL age restriction, without the proper timeline having happened
so trump had 0 influence in florida is what youre avoiding saying since nobody that voted on it heard anything trump said.
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post 1545158621 02-28-2018, 05:00 PM
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To think what might have been if people were not so swayed by celebrity.


















































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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Not sure what you are referring too. I get Omni's post.

Almost EVERYONE agrees that there are mentally incompetent people that should not be allowed to own guns (or run free for that matter)
The issue is how those people are determined.
Who the burden of proof is ON.
What constitutes "incapable".

The reason gun owners can't give up the mental card is because liberals will use it to include various conditions that sound good in theory, but are really lies. (Depression, anti-social behaviors, any form of ptsd, ect)
Bingo, this is exactly what they'll do. They'll make owning an AR15 a "mental issue". Go see a doctor because you're having a rough patch in life? Guns taken.
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post 1545158671 02-28-2018, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-di...t-weapons-ban/

55 seconds in.

the stuff nightmares are made of.
"“Dianne if you could add what you have also – and I think you can — into the bill,” Trump then suggested."


And this all just went to a whole new level.

I don't even know what to think of this.
post 1545158791 02-28-2018, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
so trump had 0 influence in florida is what youre avoiding saying since nobody that voted on it heard anything trump said.
Yes, you're right, the NRA backed Republican POTUS being all for a restriction has zero influence on NRA backed Republican legislators being willing to vote for said restriction
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I may have been a few mass shootings early, but I predicted all of this sh!t and spent the past three years stockpiling accordingly. Now's who's laughing. But the way things are going, grandfathering isn't even guaranteed now. Even though it would be a blatantly unconstitutional ex post facto law, all they have to do is say the government's interest in protecting public safety is greater than an individual's right to ______ and it will hold up. The riots and civil unrest that would create would probably make them grandfather most restrictions like with the first AWB.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
"“Dianne if you could add what you have also – and I think you can — into the bill,” Trump then suggested."


And this all just went to a whole new level.

I don't even know what to think of this.
wait and see. what bill has he signed? none. nothing has happened your worked up over nothing right now.
post 1545159021 02-28-2018, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Yes, you're right, the NRA backed Republican POTUS being all for a restriction has zero influence on NRA backed Republican legislators being willing to vote for said restriction
what restriction? nothing has happened.
post 1545159031 02-28-2018, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Where is this bill that requires trial by jury before any firearms are taken? Oh right that's exactly the opposite of what MAGA TRUMP is pushing for.
Yep... So instead of waiting for Trump to push through something stupid.

Maybe the NRA should go in on mental health checks, BUT ensure the language requires trial by jury before firearms are taken.

Trump is a populist. The "Population" wants mental health checks. So instead of fighting it. GIVE IT TO THEM. OUR WAY.
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he knows what hes doing, im holding off till **** actually happens.
post 1545159661 02-28-2018, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Yep... So instead of waiting for Trump to push through something stupid.

Maybe the NRA should go in on mental health checks, BUT ensure the language requires trial by jury before firearms are taken.

Trump is a populist. The "Population" wants mental health checks. So instead of fighting it. GIVE IT TO THEM. OUR WAY.
Agreed. There needs to be actual conditions or limitations SPELLED OUT to claim somebody is not mentally competent to own guns. I've dealt with many patients who shouldn't own guns because of a psych history. That being said, dems will turn it in to "anybody who had a bad day" will be considered mentally incapacitated and not able to own guns. This will effectively neuter the 2A. There will be no due process.
Trump really did a complete 180 on this one.
What's next, electing Garland to the SC because he didn't get a "fair shake" last time? Support for full amnesty? Another AWB?
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post 1545160341 02-28-2018, 05:19 PM
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Fuk I was wrong

Fox News: Trump agrees to AWB with restrictions, bill to be signed tomorrow
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https://news.walmart.com/2018/02/28/...irearms-policy

In light of recent events, we’ve taken an opportunity to review our policy on firearm sales. Going forward, we are raising the age restriction for purchase of firearms and ammunition to 21 years of age. We will update our processes as quickly as possible to implement this change.
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post 1545160451 02-28-2018, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Murk
Agreed. There needs to be actual conditions or limitations SPELLED OUT to claim somebody is not mentally competent to own guns. I've dealt with many patients who shouldn't own guns because of a psych history. That being said, dems will turn it in to "anybody who had a bad day" will be considered mentally incapacitated and not able to own guns. This will effectively neuter the 2A. There will be no due process.
Trump really did a complete 180 on this one.
No he didn't... During the campaign he supported those on the No Fly list being banned from owning guns. AKA ban with out due processes.

This is exactly what this is. Something that Trump thinks is a good compromise, but he can't see the next move libs will play. The NRA will talk to him behind closed doors explain it to him and he will lighten up, but he still wants the issue "resolved"

Best move IMO is to pass a mental health gun bill, but ensure it requires trial by jury to determine the person is a danger. Prevents the person that was depressed after his wife ran off with the milk man 5 years ago from getting banned due to depression. Preserves due process and "RESOLVES" the issue.

My worry is that the people like Farely wont see the play and will see it as the NRA supporting gun control. It is where the no compromises crew fails. Sometimes a "WIN" requires a pawn sacrifice.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
No he didn't... During the campaign he supported those on the No Fly list being banned from owning guns.

This is exactly what this is. Something that Trump thinks is a good compromise, but he can't see the next move libs will play. The NRA will talk to him behind closed doors explain it to him and he will lighten up, but he still wants the issue "resolved"

Best move IMO is to pass a mental health gun bill, but ensure it requires trial by jury to determine the person is a danger. Prevents the person that was depressed after his wife ran off with the milk man 5 years ago from getting banned due to depression. Preserves due process and "RESOLVES" the issue.

My worry is that the people like Farely wont see the play and will see it as the NRA supporting gun control. It is where the no compromises crew fails. Sometimes a "WIN" requires a pawn sacrifice.
Compromise...please stop using that word you don't have a clue WTF it means

BTW, show the proposal or bill that requires a trial by jury before anything is taken
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Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
Fuk I was wrong

Fox News: Trump agrees to AWB with restrictions, bill to be signed tomorrow
ah fuc bai
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Compromise...please stop using that word you don't have a clue WTF it means

BTW, show the proposal or bill that requires a trial by jury before anything is taken
It doesn't exist... Which is the point.

TRUMP WILL PASS SOMETHING ON MENTAL HEALTH.

If you just say "fuk off" you wont have any say on how it is written. You are playing the short game. Not sure how else to word it. If they did it your way it might be another 10-20 years, but once the libs are up in the SCOTUS we lose.

Congratulations the second amendment now only applies to the national guard. We need to play the game and toss in chit that shifts the argument our way.
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Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
Fuk I was wrong

Fox News: Trump agrees to AWB with restrictions, bill to be signed tomorrow
what are you talking about?
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
It doesn't exist... Which is the point.

TRUMP WILL PASS SOMETHING ON MENTAL HEALTH.

If you just say "fuk off" you wont have any say on how it is written. You are playing the short game. Not sure how else to word it. If they did it your way it might be another 10-20 years, but once the libs are up in the SCOTUS we lose.

Congratulations the second amendment now only applies to the national guard. We need to play the game and toss in chit that shifts the argument our way.
I'm saying "**** Trump" because he is literally saying to do the opposite of what you keep talking about with regards to due process. Not sure how you can't read the quotes
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
https://news.walmart.com/2018/02/28/...irearms-policy

In light of recent events, we’ve taken an opportunity to review our policy on firearm sales. Going forward, we are raising the age restriction for purchase of firearms and ammunition to 21 years of age. We will update our processes as quickly as possible to implement this change.
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post 1545162181 02-28-2018, 05:42 PM
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My biggest question is...what propaganda slogans is Ike teaching his daughter now?
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